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re: We ran the ball the whole game and still had 2 ints

Posted on 10/31/20 at 4:09 pm to
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13904 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 4:09 pm to
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So...you think Fromm and Stetson are more than game managers at best??



Homework assignment for you and VA.

Without being cunty or making rash assumptions, answer your own questions.
Why is Kirby not putting those other guys on the field at QB?

I want you to really think... be non emotional... work through the progression of possibilities, not just assumptions that conform to your bias. Make a list. I will be back to grade you after this stupid Halloween party.

Seriously... please present all plausible reasons. This will be a good exercise for y’all.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45604 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 4:09 pm to
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Having foresight and knowing when to look to the future is actually brilliant coaching and not ridiculous at all. What is ridiculous is doing the same shite over and over knowing it doesn't work.
Again, we're 4-1, 1st place in the East, and are working towards another SECCG appearance and you're willing to throw that aside to develop a QB that may not even turn out to be anything (happens all the time)?

Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47656 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 4:13 pm to
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Again, we're 4-1, 1st place in the East, and are working towards another SECCG appearance and you're willing to throw that aside to develop a QB that may not even turn out to be anything (happens all the time)?


Yes. Because I know this team, as currently constructed, isn't good enough to beat Alabama (even without Waddle), and they probably aren't good enough to beat Ohio State and Clemson either.

If you're satisfied with getting to the SECCG, losing by 3 TDs, and playing Cincinnati in the Sugar Bowl, then good for you.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47656 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 4:15 pm to
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Without being county or making rash assumptions, answer your own questions.
Why is Kirby not putting those other guys on the field at QB?


I truly believe that Kirby is going with the safest option. He knows that Bennett isn't going to throw a shitload of interceptions unless he's pressing like he had to against Alabama. I think Kirby believes that his defense can hold any offense under 24 points and that playing it safe at QB gives him the best chance to win if the D does that.

The problem is, you can have the best defense in college football and it doesn't matter when you play against teams like 2019 LSU and 2020 Alabama. They're going to get their points no matter what you do defensively.
Posted by dawgRUSH
New York, NY
Member since Nov 2011
951 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 4:31 pm to
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Having foresight and knowing when to look to the future is actually brilliant coaching and not ridiculous at all. What is ridiculous is doing the same shite over and over knowing it doesn't work.


Which is what the coaches are doing by not rushing back JT.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5696 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 4:37 pm to
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You don’t have to throw a game by letting another qb have a shot for some drives.

It needs to happen, it’s pretty clear.

We had 2 ints in 13 attempts. Doesn’t matter how you feel that the ints happened


Best case scenario is Bennett was playing the entire game unless it was in jeopardy. He'll trot someone else out v Florida and the Gators won't be prepared.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47656 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 4:40 pm to
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Which is what the coaches are doing by not rushing back JT.


Then play Beck or Mathis. We've seen the ceiling for this team with Bennett. They blew out mediocre Tennessee and Auburn teams and were competitive with Alabama for three quarters.

That isn't good enough. Kirby didn't get hired to almost beat Alabama.
Posted by dawgRUSH
New York, NY
Member since Nov 2011
951 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 4:53 pm to
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Then play Beck or Mathis. We've seen the ceiling for this team with Bennett.


I’d like to see what Beck has to offer. Will be an interesting week for sure.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5696 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 5:05 pm to
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I’d like to see what Beck has to offer. Will be an interesting week for sure.


I think Mathis deserves another shot. If Bennett can play this bad for a game and a half and not get pulled, but 4 penalty hampered drives to start the entire season is enough to make Mathis unfit for another meaningful snap this year he will surely jump ship.

. . . and he should.

My only explanation for JT is he really is injured. If he isn't injured but he can't see the field he'll leave as well.

. . . and he should.
This post was edited on 10/31/20 at 5:23 pm
Posted by Gtmodawg
PNW
Member since Dec 2019
4580 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 5:39 pm to
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We had three possessions in the first half


Yes, that’s an issue also. Should’ve been 21-3 even with that. UK whipped our defenses arse in their one and only drive. They had the ball over 10 minutes in one possession. That is concerning to say the least.

Bennett ought not be on scholarship in Athens. He ain’t remotely close to being a third string QB on a SEC team let alone one that is supposed to a contender (we ain’t). His being on scholarship is more concerning than him starting, almost.

It’s time to face the music. Smart is not currently capable of handling the most important position on the field. He can learn to do so but he doesn’t have a clue thus far.

I ain’t sold on our recruiting either. We don’t have a QB. That’s kind of a big deal. But we also do not have a SEC caliber tailback yet this season (we have some with promise but they ain’t there yet) and we do not have receivers who are capable of getting open.

We also have not changed ANYTHING about the offense. We are exactly what we have been since Smart arrived except we don’t have tailbacks who can consistently turn 2 yard gains into 4 yard gains and they aren’t yet a threat to break one for 70 yards.

Smart is the right person for the job but he is FAR from being Dabo or Saban. I still think he gets there but he hasn’t grown much if any in 4 years.
Posted by chillmonster
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2018
5696 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 5:59 pm to
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I ain’t sold on our recruiting either.


This is incorrect. UGA has signed a championship team. Full stop.

This post was edited on 10/31/20 at 6:25 pm
Posted by Dawg4Life
South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
688 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 6:02 pm to
2 picks** and a fumble** in 13 passes.

Yikes
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
26162 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 6:03 pm to
I’m afraid that kirbys biggest fear is to play Mathis and him do really well and then him have to admit he’s been playing the wrong guy.

I’m just at a loss
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
11407 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 6:30 pm to
Didn’t that happen last year with Fields?
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
45604 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 7:57 pm to
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Yes. Because I know this team, as currently constructed, isn't good enough to beat Alabama (even without Waddle), and they probably aren't good enough to beat Ohio State and Clemson either.

If you're satisfied with getting to the SECCG, losing by 3 TDs, and playing Cincinnati in the Sugar Bowl, then good for you.
You're ridiculous. Keep it up.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
13904 posts
Posted on 10/31/20 at 8:42 pm to
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I truly believe that Kirby is going with the safest option. He knows that Bennett isn't going to throw a shitload of interceptions unless he's pressing like he had to against Alabama. I think Kirby believes that his defense can hold any offense under 24 points and that playing it safe at QB gives him the best chance to win if the D does that.

The problem is, you can have the best defense in college football and it doesn't matter when you play against teams like 2019 LSU and 2020 Alabama. They're going to get their points no matter what you do defensively.


You have a F so far. Your assignment was to go through a progression of plausible reasons. Let do this... give me reasons. Be creative and think outside your bias here. It is important
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