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re: UGA TA saying some pretty ridiculous stuff and UGA supporting it

Posted on 1/23/19 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 3:37 pm to
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We need a snapping fingers emoticon.



I hope this is a Thanos reference.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 3:48 pm to
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This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 4:02 pm
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 3:51 pm to
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hope this is a Thanos reference.

I don’t know what that means. Snapping is a new less threatening and more inclusive form of clapping. Get with the times..
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 3:53 pm to
My guess is they are managing this before they process it....
Posted by S1C EM
Athens, GA
Member since Nov 2007
11585 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 6:40 pm to
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I don’t know what that means. Snapping is a new less threatening and more inclusive form of clapping. Get with the times..


This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 6:47 pm
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
24022 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:39 pm to
was perusing the flagpole and came across this amazing piece by the renown jounarlist blake aued...i will copy and past the article below to keep his pageview count honest

quote:

Here’s some breaking news.
Wait for it.
It’s crazy.
You won’t believe this.

An Athens PhD student has some controversial political views. And he posts them on social media.
Irami Osei-Frimpong, a University of Georgia teaching assistant in philosophy, is well-known in Athens political circles.
He hosts a YouTube show and posts his thoughts on race and class on Facebook multiple times a day.

Some months ago, Osei-Frimpong said that “some white people may have to die for black communities to be whole in this struggle to advance freedom.” This has been willfully distorted by the right.
A UGA student associated with Campus Reform, a well-funded conservative organization that seeks to catch college professors in statements it can cast as embarrassing to the left, went to a UGA Young Democrats meeting to confront Osei-Frimpong, cellphone camera rolling. (Campus Reform has had it in for this guy for a while.) Campus Reform alumni include Mitch McConnell, Mike Pence, disgraced operative Ralph Reed and James O’Keefe, he of fake-pimp ACORN fame.

I had hoped this blatant smear job against a person who’s not even really worthy of smearing would stay confined to the right-wing blogosphere, but that is not the case. The AJC and Atlanta TV stations saw a ratings/clicks bonanza (race! politics! UGA!) and took the bait. A story about a TA’s views on some hypothetical race war—not the federal shutdown, or whatever the legislature’s up to, or any number of other vastly more important topics—is currently the most-read story on the AJC’s website. Athens-Clarke County Commissioner Mariah Parker and school board members LaKeisha Gantt and Tawana Mattox felt moved to release a statement in support of Osei-Frimpong.

UGA, meanwhile, has been peppering Twitter with a statements of its own: First, the university condemned racism and violence while also standing up for Osei-Frimpong’s right to talk politics on his own time. When donors threatened to withhold their checks, though, UGA shifted its stance to say that it’s exploring disciplinary options with the state attorney general’s office.

Don’t get me wrong. Osei-Frimpong has a history of questionable rhetoric. It became an issue when ex-congressional candidate Chalis Montgomery felt threatened by it. This is not about coddling white feelings—it’s about framing an argument in a way that will win over allies, rather than drive them away. But his remark is not a threat of violence, as conservatives have sought to cast it in an effort to discredit the liberal elite.

Many white people have died for black communities to be whole in this struggle for freedom. Heather Heyer. Andrew Goodman and Michael Schwerner. Over 300,000 Union soldiers. He stated a fact.
Sadly, the struggle is not over. That’s not even mentioning the many thousands of whites who’ve died in defense of white supremacy, and might not react too well if true equality is ever achieved. Just go look at Osei-Frimpong’s Facebook page. Read the comments about how he ought to be hanging from a tree. They’re proving him right. Editor's note: Montgomery disputed the characterization of her reaction to Osei-Frimpong's attacks on her campaign, so the sentence has been reworded.


Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5374 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 6:56 pm to
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“some white people may have to die for black communities to be whole in this struggle to advance freedom.” This has been willfully distorted by the right.
This is actually profoundly confused. Instead of distorting it, I'm pretty sure people took him exactly at his word?

And the mental gymnastics required for the union soldiers bullshite is beyond laughable.

Oh wait, it's the flagpole. Nvm, carry on.
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 2/1/19 at 11:19 pm to
This is a great example of unabashed bias.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18557 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 12:03 am to
I think it’s just insulting to racist incidents.
I’ve known truly vile racist people and it’s disturbing.
Trying to paint large swaths of people is not racist but it is stupid.

Trying to bring the Civil War into this is also just plain stupid. The Civil War was a horrible conflict and the Confederste government was wrong for what they did for many reasons as well as many who took part. But to try and paint that picture on every southerner who took part in the War is just asinine.

FWIW, I was reading s book recently that showed that georgia was the most anti-Confederacy state in the Confederacy by far followed by North Carolina. Very libertarian and led resistance to many confederate laws.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63965 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 12:46 pm to
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FWIW, I was reading s book recently that showed that georgia was the most anti-Confederacy state in the Confederacy by far followed by North Carolina. Very libertarian and led resistance to many confederate laws.


Did it say where the confederate gold was buried?
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18557 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 1:33 pm to
It did go into poor fiscal policy of the Confederacy. If they had gold, they would have used it
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63965 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 1:39 pm to
Do you have a moment to enlighten me? I have never actually read up on the CSA fiscal policy.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 1:40 pm to
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The Civil War was a horrible conflict and the Confederste government was wrong for what they did for many reasons as well as many who took part.

What exactly were the Confederate government and others wrong for doing? What did they do wrong?

Please be specific.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18557 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 1:58 pm to
Well, their whole economic approach to the war was bizarre.

It’s no secret that cotton was the main export of the south. But the south tried to tie the export of cotton into a polictical matter and forbid people from exporting cotton in hope that this would encourage European textile industries to pressure governments to support the Confederacy.

This of course angered the planters who then started smuggling cotton north into Union territory. The whole cotton van ended up turning into a major confederate black eye as the effectiveness of the blockade turned into s major international political issue(basically, if the blockade was successful, that’s considered an act of war against a country). Once the Confederacy had to admit they were manipulating international markets, they lost standing.

The general fiscal policy of the south turned into printing money which led to disastrous inflation which was further exemplified by northern counterfeits flooding the market.

Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:06 pm to
So, the subject of the American civil war and race comes up...And your first instinct is to immediately criticize and shame the Confederacy for its fiscal policy?

Seems kind of out of left field to me.
Posted by athenslife101
Member since Feb 2013
18557 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:18 pm to
I was responding to deeprig but I’m just being honest.

I do deeply respect a lot of the confederate military endveors. Lee, Jackson, Longstreet, I do respect them and appreciate them. The soldiers who fought I respect and am proud of what they accomplished. I do subscribe to the ideas that this was a rich mans’s war, poor mans’s fight for the Confederstes.

I also respect the Union. I respect Lincoln and Grant and Sheridan and the Union soldiers who risked their lives.

I separate the war itself from the political issues behind them. I do find the Confederacy to be an oligarcharical, fundamentally undemocarticatic, anti-capitalistic institution that was, whether you want to admit it or not, founded on slavery.

That’s not to say there weren’t assholes and horrible people in the north. But most of our ideals that we appreciate as American, democracy, capitalism, self determination, liberty, are non-existent. In the Confederacy
This post was edited on 2/2/19 at 2:19 pm
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:35 pm to
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But most of our ideals that we appreciate as American, democracy, capitalism, self determination, liberty, are non-existent. In the Confederacy

Gibberish.

Youre observing and analyzing a country born in war-time thats dealing with a massive invasion and then criticizing them for not being pure as the driven libertarian snow. Made funnier by the fact that your comparing them to an idealized “American” standard....

How do you think the original United States would fair under your analysis if you judged them under their first four years of existence??? They were born in war as well and while being invaded. And they were guilty of doing the exact same things the Confederacy did while trying to survive.

Not to mention that secession is 100% the embodiment of self determination which you try here to deny them.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 2:37 pm to
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I was responding to deeprig

Oh. Sorry.

Whats the name of the book you recently read that has you all stirred up?
Posted by Peter Buck
Member since Sep 2012
12415 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 3:27 pm to
Athens101 is right. It was foolish to start the shooting war with no industrial base and not enough of a Navy to keep their life blood flowing... which was agricultural exports.

From a purely racial standpoint, there were black freedmen in the South who owned black slaves... who most certainly supported the Confederacy. There is even a park in Charleston named after one of them.
So, to say all the Union troops died to protect black people is ignorant at best. They died because they joined/were conscripted into the Union Army. Some did it for honor, some for a better life, some because of patriotic fervor and some... because they had to.... or a combination of these.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31961 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 4:04 pm to
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Athens101 is right. It was foolish to start the shooting war with no industrial base and not enough of a Navy to keep their life blood flowing... which was agricultural exports.

Thats all with the benefit of hindsight though and knowing how it played out.

People forget or maybe dont even know how close the South came to winning that war. Im sure if they had the time-traveler benefit of hindsight and knowing how things played out, of course they’d of done a few things differently.
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So, to say all the Union troops died to protect black people is ignorant at best.

Amen.

The grim reality is that the overwhelming majority on both sides, north and South, agreed wholeheartedly on the topic of race. Abraham Lincoln himself was the definition of a white supremacist.

The fairy tale version of that conflict that is accepted and taught today is an outright purposeful lie.
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