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Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48522 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:26 pm to
Meanwhile, Kirby is over here firing Rocker for not recruiting good enough and hiring his replacement the very next day.

Kirby For AD?
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36722 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 3:59 pm to
frick Gregg marshall but that would be quite the get.

Big time no to Sampson, Floyd, tubby, and capel for me. Hoiberg is not in the cards. Others seem possible at least
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89676 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 4:42 pm to
Gregg and hoiberg are kinda like the football people every year who want to offer gruden, yeah it'd obviously be a grand slam but zero chance at happening.

I'm all about the keatts and mccall trains.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39850 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 7:50 pm to
Too bad we cant go back in time and hire Lon Kruger.
Posted by DoubleDawg22
Member since Dec 2016
1572 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 8:58 pm to
If fox isn't back next year and Hoiberg is serious about the job then I think he would be the best candidate.

Has great experience with developing a college program. Has solid NBA experience.

I don't really like McCall because I don't believe he has proven what he can do in terms of length. Sure he can be great with somebody else's talent ina below mid major conference. I wish he had been at Chatt for 6 years and was still doing what he is now.
Posted by DoubleDawg22
Member since Dec 2016
1572 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:01 pm to
I would like Greg McDermott from Creighton added to the list. We could give him a significant pay raise.
This post was edited on 2/8/17 at 9:02 pm
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
11311 posts
Posted on 2/8/17 at 9:22 pm to
Why not Zoidberg?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89676 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:07 am to
quote:

and Hoiberg is serious about the job then I think he would be the best candidate.


Yeah he'd be a grand slam, but why would he have interest in us? Guy coaches for the dang bulls.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
16248 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:10 am to
Go get Wojo.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89676 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:12 am to
So I want to stress that this is obviously a stupid thought that just came to my head that is not going to happen in this universe or any other, it's simply a hypothetical.

But would there be ANY dollar amount out there that would convince a Coach K or billy donovan to leave their school and go to UGA? I'm talking like $15M a year type salary. Do you think a price tag on that, however astronomically high, even exists or do you think those guys would say no even if it got up to like $20M per year?

Again, obviously not a reality scenario, just curious.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:28 am to
quote:

Yeah he'd be a grand slam, but why would he have interest in us? Guy coaches for the dang bulls.


I agree it would be a pretty strange get, but this article I read not too long ago talked a bit about how while it would be a mistake, his seat is "hot" with the Bulls, even though it's really through no fault of his own.
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On top of that, they're looking to trade Jimmy Butler, but are in a poor position to get a decent value back for him while they're currently saddled with Rondo sitting on the bench as well. It's a train-wreck. If they use him as a scapegoat, would be pretty awesome to scoop him up, but that's awfully unlikely.

Also, even if we assume he gets fired from his $5M/season (5 year deal), he was making $2.6M even at Iowa State and his last contract was for 8 years. We would would have to pony up at a level that might make McG soil himself (though there might be some magic to be worked with staggering pay outs, depending on how the Bulls contract is setup, so that more UGA money is paid later once the Bulls contract expires but to some degree is guaranteed.

I agree with the "Gruden" comparison above. Aim high, sure... take the shot if he's available, but many of the others listed are more realistic.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 9:34 am to
quote:

Coach K

No. He makes 2.5M more than Saban already... I'm pretty sure at this point in his life, he's not terribly concerned with his salary. Starting over wouldn't be much fun.

quote:

billy donovan

Leaving the Thunder? Maybe... but unlikely. Younger, so money has more explicit value to him, but I don't think he strictly made the move to the NBA for money. I think it was for a new challenge. If he doesn't like the NBA, big money could probably get him back, but you'd have to ink it quietly or you'd have other, better situations out there that would likely want to be in the mix. I think his deal is for $6M/season... Get him to $10-12M and might have a deal, but that's a lot of dough to shell out and not fix some of the underlying issues like Stegeman, so more capital investment needed there.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
45654 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:11 am to
quote:

but why would he have interest in us? Guy coaches for the dang bulls.


Not only that, but if he or Donovan are looking at coming back to college there are much better jobs open than UGA. Hell, LSU is a more appealing coaching job than us IMO.
Posted by DoubleDawg22
Member since Dec 2016
1572 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:36 am to
Apparently, Hoiberg is all over the hot seat that's why he maybe a realistic option. Getting a coach with relevant NBA ties

I didn't look at Hoiberg's Iowa state contract but it makes him look like much more of a possibility. We are dishing out any more than $4 mil per year on a HC.

We might could get Hoiberg for $3 mil but I bet it would cost us more like $3.5 mil per year. IMO, $3.5 is out of range but maybe only slightly.

Greg McDermott still seems like a realistic candidate to me. He's at Creighton and is having a great year. Also, his Salary is $1.3 mil.
Posted by DoubleDawg22
Member since Dec 2016
1572 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:39 am to
I would agree that there are other better jobs than UGA esp. with our crappy fan base but how many of those will be open?

An NBA guy with a school in the hotbed of Atlanta and has experienced 20 win season in three consecutive years and is barely been out of the tournament over that span is pretty solid.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
89676 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 10:48 am to
quote:

more like $3.5 mil per year. IMO, $3.5 is out of range


this is what absolutely astounds me about our short sighted AD.

Is $3.5M for a basketball coach a lot of money? Well hell yeah it is. But going out and getting a known, proven winner for that steep a price will actually sell tickets, more people will donate and buy season tickets, more money spent on parking and concessions, more wins, more exposure, more everything!
Posted by DoubleDawg22
Member since Dec 2016
1572 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:23 am to
I agree...I'm just basing my opinion soley on Fox's current contract. Fox would be considered an "up-and-comer" when we hired him 8 years ago. I think Matt McCall is in that boat now and I don't see ADGM going with another one if we just fired someone that fit into the same mold. Not to mention that our program can pull someone in a later stage of their career than an "up-and-comer."
Posted by tylerdurden24
Member since Sep 2009
48522 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:24 am to
Never quite understood why we let what is supposed to be the second biggest revenue stream in a college athletic department just kind of sit there and bring in the bare minimum. If UGA insists on running athletics as a business first and a sports program second (not saying that's right or wrong, just saying the reserve fund is healthier than some of our programs) then what the hell are we letting basketball languish for?
Posted by devils1854
Franklin
Member since Aug 2014
6422 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:24 am to
Yeah, and what does it hurt to ask?

Frank Martin was having nice success at Kansas State. South Carolina's AD said the hell with it, and called him, and he took the job, which was a step down.

Same thing happened with Virginia Tech. They called Buzz Williams, and he actually left a basketball school in Marquette to go to an ACC doormat.

Are we going to get Greg Marshall? No
Are we going to get Fred Hoiberg? Probably not.

But it doesnt hurt to ask. Id rather give them a call and exhaust all options before we go to Chattanooga or Wilmington to get our head coach.
Posted by DoubleDawg22
Member since Dec 2016
1572 posts
Posted on 2/9/17 at 11:31 am to
Seth Emerson answered a question and made a really great point and I think UGA moved on Richt in large part to this reason.

I could see ADGM waiting until the end of the season and seeing who we would be hiring a coach up against. If we would be top end of the Poole or if we could increase our opportunity to get a better hire.

For instance, if we had waited another year Kirby would have probably been hired some where else to be the HC. I think the rumors were flying around him and South carolina. If we kept Richt for another year we would have had to try to pry him away after one year at another school and this would have likely been very difficult.
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