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re: The best move Kirby can do right now is to let JT start the game
Posted on 12/6/21 at 6:09 pm to Dawg4Life47
Posted on 12/6/21 at 6:09 pm to Dawg4Life47
I’m starting to rationalize that dumpster fire Saturday. Still can’t understand how we didn’t get an ounce of pressure on Bryce Young. None.
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 6:23 pm to Dawg4Life47
Kirby is a fricking dumbass… that is all.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:05 pm to Dawg4Life47
There's a certain type of person - usually "older" and conservative to stereotype - who don't believe in questioning authority. The coach always knows best 'cause he's the coach. Don't criticize the coach, don't question the coach.
A guy getting paid $8M a year should expect to be held to a very high standard. Why shouldn't he be questioned when things don't go well? I mean, if Kirby was so all knowing, it sure didn't look like it against Alabama. If he wins the next couple of games, everyone will be happy. If he loses, though, it will be a different story.
As far as the QB situation specifically: Since Kirby has continued to insist he has total confidence in both Bennett and Daniels, people are of course going to wonder why Daniels has gotten so little playing time since (allegedly) being healthy and why he never came in during the SECCG. Some may wonder if it's Kirby's stubbornness, since some of his statements don't seem, well, very believable.
A guy getting paid $8M a year should expect to be held to a very high standard. Why shouldn't he be questioned when things don't go well? I mean, if Kirby was so all knowing, it sure didn't look like it against Alabama. If he wins the next couple of games, everyone will be happy. If he loses, though, it will be a different story.
As far as the QB situation specifically: Since Kirby has continued to insist he has total confidence in both Bennett and Daniels, people are of course going to wonder why Daniels has gotten so little playing time since (allegedly) being healthy and why he never came in during the SECCG. Some may wonder if it's Kirby's stubbornness, since some of his statements don't seem, well, very believable.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:19 pm to Dawg4Life47
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There is a lot to second guess from Saturday and the previous year against Bama.
It's easy to second guess. It's easy to sit on a couch after a play or after a game, and say, "I would have done __________ differently." We are all Super Bowl Champion coaches from the couch. No pressure on us. nothing at stake. Just sit and pick apart the things people do for a living, because we think we would have done better.
quote:I never said everything is fine. I said that I am not a coach. Coaches have film, other coaches, experience, scouting reports, they see the players day in and day out. They actually, believe it or not have much more information than a regular fan does. Hard to believe, isn't it?
The fact you are saying everything is fine
quote:So the realistic approach is to jump in a lake with a guy who doesn't know how to swim?
maybe you should jump into the lake and find a realistic perspective.
Sounds reasonable.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:22 pm to Lucius Clay
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A guy getting paid $8M a year should expect to be held to a very high standard.
Absolutely should. he should take us to the playoffs from time to time, right?
Yes. I am older. Yes, I am conservative. I find it more reasonable than running around with my hair on fire panicking after every loss, calling for the coaches head that just took us to the playoffs.
You really believe it is reasonable to second guess a coach that has taken us to the playoffs not once, but twice?
How many teams on any level have you taken to playoffs of any kind?
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:24 pm to Dawg4Life47
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No, the obvious would be Kirby can't be Saban.
Pretty simple stuff here.
This encapsulates your argument very well. You expect Kirby to be Saban, and if he can't, then fire him.
Tell me something, genius. Name all the coaches on the planet that are equal to, or have the ability to be Nick Saban.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:29 pm to DawgsLife
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You really believe it is reasonable to second guess a coach that has taken us to the playoffs not once, but twice?
How many teams on any level have you taken to playoffs of any kind?
I think it's reasonable to question a coach that has lost every time he's played Alabama, especially when this last instance was an unexpected bed shitting.
Your second statement is a bit over the top. I have to lead a team to playoffs before I dare question someone who has? That's like saying that people have no right to question the President or the Governor if we've never held elected office. Sorry, I don't agree. People can express their views, which is what fans do all the time.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:35 pm to Lucius Clay
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I think it's reasonable to question a coach that has lost every time he's played Alabama, especially when this last instance was an unexpected bed shitting.
Yeah, especially when you know better, right? I mean you are smarter.
As a player I absolutely hated "fans" like you. You sit in the stands and watch, just waiting for a mistake to happen so you can show everybody else how smart you are by criticizing it. Meanwhile you wouldn't dare step on the field yourself. Go ahead and criticize.
Exactly what experience have you had that makes you so much smarter?
quote:You're right. how much coaching experience have you had?
Your second statement is a bit over the top. I have to lead a team to playoffs before I dare question someone who has?
How about playing experience?
Do you have any idea what the players and coaches put into preparing for a game? The hours, days, weeks and months of film watching, game planning....trying to outsmart the other coach?
No. You don't. you think all we should have done is watch the game film of Auburn/Alabama and we would have won, because Nick Saban won't change anything up.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:43 pm to Lucius Clay
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People can express their views, which is what fans do all the time.
Yes, they can. You know what they shouldn't do? They should act like they know more than the coach. They shouldn't trash a player that has worked his rear end off day after day. They shouldn't call the coach into question because he doesn't play their favorite player.
Dude. Think before you post/speak. Think about how much more information the coach has than you. He has mountains of information, film and experience. Now think what you have. Two eyes and one game on TV.
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:50 pm to DawgsLife
Based on your vantage point, no coach would ever get fired...because they just know best and no one can or should ever question them except maybe other coaches. But guess what? Coaches get questioned all the time...and fired...by university Presidents or management in NFL front offices...and so on. And plenty of the people questioning and sometimes firing aren't former coaches themselves. Welcome to reality...
Posted on 12/6/21 at 8:54 pm to Lucius Clay
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Based on your vantage point, no coach would ever get fired...
Not at all. What on earth gave you that idea?
I am saying that fans that don't have information should act like they know better than the coach.
Let the coach make the decisions and if the results aren't there, then fire him.
Look. I've played a little bit. And after a tough loss people, for some strange reason thought they had the right to walk up and say, "What happened? Y'all should have won that game! If you had done ________ you could have won!" I knew they were full of crap, because I had more information than they did.
That's you.
ETA
You know what? believe what you want. You can believe you know more than somebody who has been playing and/or coaching for 30 years. I'm tired of this and you have shown that no matter how it is laid out for you that you think you are the smartest person on the board. You have some otherworldly ability to see things no coach or player can see.
Congratulations. It must be lonely being smarter than the rest of the world.
This post was edited on 12/6/21 at 8:58 pm
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:01 pm to DawgsLife
Not sure what you think people should do on a sports forum. Just make lots of posts continually praising all the coaches and players? Never vent, complain, debate, or speculate?
Sounds like you need to have a stiff drink and relax...
Sounds like you need to have a stiff drink and relax...
Posted on 12/6/21 at 9:02 pm to claydawg09
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won’t let him play rumors
Explain please
Posted on 12/7/21 at 2:45 am to DAWG71
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So, using your theory, Kirby should make Saban think JT is starting and then start Stets and do everything the opposite of normal to screw with Saban's head...
That's still well within the realm of predictable. What Kirby should do is have all of the defense play offense, and all of the offense play defense, then after the half, sub in the band. Even Saban probably wouldn't see that coming.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 2:49 am to Hobnailboot
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Still can’t understand how we didn’t get an ounce of pressure on Bryce Young. None.
It was tactics, man. See, we *knew* that Saban would be expecting us to go after Young hard, because it had worked for Auburn; we knew he'd gameplanned it. So, rather than playing into his plan, we decided to go against it and not pressure him at all.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 8:56 am to Lucius Clay
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Not sure what you think people should do on a sports forum.
State your positon...that's ok. No problem. but when people start to call players out making wild claims about their abilities or lack of, they are going too far. When they begin to state things as if they are facts, when they are opinions, thta's too far. When people begin saying a coach doesn't know what he is doing or id dumb, that is too far.
Don't misunderstand me....these are not necessarily by you, but by the collective. But these are prime examples of what I am talking about:
Your boy stet is a pile of steaming dog shite
Start JT Daniels or lose a title
Start this man, or lose the season. This game is absolutely on the QB decision.
I think we can beat Michigan with Stetson at QB, but we have no chance against Bama with him.
Unless he is unhealthy, how on earth does he lose the starting job? Kirby believes Stetson is better?
He’s definitely not hurt. He is sitting for the same reason Justin Fields sat behind Fromm….dumbassery
Stet sucks snd our D isn’t what we thought
Maybe next year. Because we damn sure went smell the playoffs
There's you a hot take that didn't age well
You’re so fricking sad Stetson has finally been exposed like I predicted.
So our fans should be sad that our QB had a bad day and we got beat?
There are tons of other hot takes. Some even insinuating that Kirby does noes not know how to coach.
All I am saying is express an opinion then consider just for a minute that maybe, just maybe the coaches have information that you do not.
Crap. People are already saying we can't win a title with Kirby Smart as our coach, and this is the second trip to the playoffs he has taken us to in 6 years. Name any SEC team that has done that not named Alabama.
quote:I don't drink and I am fully relaxed.
Sounds like you need to have a stiff drink and relax...
Not sur why you would think I am not relaxed. I'm not on here starting several threads complaining about stuff I know very little about.
You never answered my questions.
1. Have you ever coached?
2. What level did you play football?
3. What experience do you have that makes your opinion better that Kirby Smarts?
4. What information do you have that Kirby Smart is not privy to?
5. Do you think that Kirby Smart might have some insight that you do not have that helps him make the decisions he makes?
Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:34 am to DawgsLife
Oh that’s easy, even for an old conservative guy: 0.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:56 am to DawgsLife
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You never answered my questions. 1. Have you ever coached? 2. What level did you play football? 3. What experience do you have that makes your opinion better that Kirby Smarts? 4. What information do you have that Kirby Smart is not privy to? 5. Do you think that Kirby Smart might have some insight that you do not have that helps him make the decisions he makes?
I really don’t have a dawg in the fight and think KIRBY knows a lot but I hate when people say you can’t criticize or second guess someone because they are “professionals” who know more. It’s like the leftist motto of “Trust the Science” that people love to use while listening to the Govt and Fauci absolutely screw it all up. It’s plain to see when shite is not working or going according to plan and calling that out doesn’t mean you’re trying to take Kirby’s job but damn at some point there is enough evidence to see that someone made a bad call or two or three or four.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 10:04 am
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:39 am to ShockTroop
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I really don’t have a dawg in the fight and think KIRBY knows a lot but I hate when people say you can’t criticize or second guess someone because they are “professionals” who know more.
Nobody said you can't criticize. I said not to state things as fact when it is in fact an opinion. People say Bennet is "garbage" or Kirby doesn't have a clue don't understand that he just might have more information than they do. Maybe you should reread what has been said?
Your boy stet is a pile of steaming dog shite
Start JT Daniels or lose a title
Start this man, or lose the season. This game is absolutely on the QB decision.
He’s definitely not hurt. He is sitting for the same reason Justin Fields sat behind Fromm….dumbassery
Hey. You're welcome to your opinion and you should state it. maybe some of us are just tired of thread after thread being made saying the exact same thing?
quote:You are absolutely right. A coach who has us going to a second playoff has absolutely no idea what is going on. Congratulations for convincing me.
doesn’t mean you’re trying to take Kirby’s job but damn at some point there is enough evidence to see that someone made a bad call or two or three or four.
Posted on 12/7/21 at 11:24 am to FaCubeItches
quote:Siyence and stuf
It was tactics, man. See, we *knew* that Saban would be expecting us to go after Young hard, because it had worked for Auburn; we knew he'd gameplanned it. So, rather than playing into his plan, we decided to go against it and not pressure him at all.
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