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re: South Carolina started 9 true freshman and 19 first year starters

Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:17 pm to
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Not gonna lie, their 17 year old freshman is better than ours. That guy is going to be a force the next 3 years.


Bentley is a coach's kid; His mechanics are impeccable and he is technique is very sound. A lot of kids who are the sons of coaches are that way, because they've been coached up that way since they were very young. He's also in a spread system that is much simpler than a pro-style offense. Throw all that in combined with the fact that Bentley is a very talented QB and he has 2 very good WR's plus a reliable TE and you have a kid that is set up for success. His OL is shitty, though.

Eason has great arm talent but he has to improve his mechanics and technique. When he steps up into his throws, they're mostly great (see the pass to Ridley vs UT), but when he throws off his back foot and tries to rely only on his arm, he's off the mark. He also played in a west coast spread offense and is now transitioning to a Pro-style complex offense. I think he would be helped out a lot if we would tweak and simplify our schemes. All in all, I think Eason ends up with the better career.
Posted by TMDawg
Member since Nov 2012
5381 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:18 pm to
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(I think that is the point he is making)
Pretty sure he's not actually saying USCe was lucky but being tongue in cheek pointing out he thinks we have a shitty coaching staff that can't prepare our players or adjust/put players in position to win. That's the point he's been making all season anyways.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60633 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:37 pm to
Yeah. I was trying to be a little more diplomatic.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26513 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 3:45 pm to
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Actually, it's probably why we should have beaten them by 21+ points, instead of having to return and onside kick all the way back to win by 14.

You vastly overrate UGA's players still. I do not know why.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70266 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 4:05 pm to
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He also played in a west coast spread offense and is now transitioning to a Pro-style complex offense. I think he would be helped out a lot if we would tweak and simplify our schemes.


I think that would be a valid excuse if Eason was doing shitty, but he's not.

I haven't seen any tell tale confusion on EAson's part. Maybe there is some there, but it's not obvious.

The offensive line is fat and slow just like their coach. That's Eason's problem. And shitty receivers.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60633 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 7:53 pm to
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You vastly overrate UGA's players still. I do not know why.


Maybe I put too much faith in recruiting rankings. As a whole the rankings do very well. The teams that recruit well generally do well. We have 4* and 5* talent all over the roster. Yes, I know we are thin at some positions and maybe a little short on the OL, but what we have is still a lot better than South Carolina, Missouri, Nicholls, etc. If recruiting rankings mean nothing, then why does Alabama, LSU, Ohio State etc. put so much emphasis on them? or for that matter....us?

ETA
It also seems like an odd response considering that i said we had much better recruits at the various positions and you said, "That's probably why we beat them."
This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 7:55 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
70266 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 8:21 pm to
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We have 4* and 5* talent all over the roster.


We have 85 scholarship spots.

Name our five stars please.


ETA... let me help you out:


Trent Thompson, DL
Terry Godwin, WR
Sony Michel, RB
Jacob Eason, QB
Lorenzo Carter, LB


Is that it? That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

I dare you to go look up how many Ohio St or Bama have.

This post was edited on 10/31/16 at 8:23 pm
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27802 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 9:03 pm to
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This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 3:54 am
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26513 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 9:28 pm to
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It also seems like an odd response considering that i said we had much better recruits at the various positions and you said, "That's probably why we beat them

Our good players are freshmen and sophomores. None are OL, which hamstrings an entire side of the ball.

Other teams' good players are juniors and seniors who have had a chance to develop.The exception is USCe, who UGA beat by 2 TDs on the road.

This is why UGA is bad.
Posted by Dawgfanman
Member since Jun 2015
24717 posts
Posted on 10/31/16 at 9:47 pm to
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quote:
We have 4* and 5* talent all over the roster.


We have 85 scholarship spots.

Name our five stars please.


ETA... let me help you out:


Trent Thompson, DL
Terry Godwin, WR
Sony Michel, RB
Jacob Eason, QB
Lorenzo Carter, LB


Is that it? That's all I can think of off the top of my head.

I dare you to go look up how many Ohio St or Bama have.


How many does ole miss or Vandy have?
We are playing well below our talent level at the moment. This team looks unsure and apprehensive. Organizational change takes time, but we have better than 4-4 talent on this team.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60633 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:23 am to
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I dare you to go look up how many Ohio St or Bama have.


Well, that's kind of neat...except we were talking about how much more talent we had than South Carolina.
I said we should have beaten them by 21 or more because we have recruited forty 4* or better since 2014.
I don't recall saying anything about Ohio St. or Alabama.

And yes, having forty 4* or above players is having enough talent to beat South Carolina by 21 or more points. How many does South Carolina have? Go look it up. I dare you.

Don't come into the conversation unless you know what the conversation is about.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
25117 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:28 am to
Crow has thoroughly explained this to you not only in this thread but in other threads I'm pretty sure unless I'm going crazy. Their good players ARE OLDER than our good players. It doesn't completely excuse the coaching staff for some things but it is a good indicator of why we lose to a team like Ole Miss whose QB is a senior who will play in the NFL.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 7:34 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60633 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:31 am to
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ETA... let me help you out:


Trent Thompson, DL
Terry Godwin, WR
Sony Michel, RB
Jacob Eason, QB
Lorenzo Carter, LB


By the way...you also forgot:

Isaac Nauta
Mecole Hardman
Nick Chubb

I understand that is not on the same level as Ohio State or Alabama, but since we were talking about South Carolina....

By the way....South Carolina has zero. They have recruited 22 4* since 2014. (According to 247 Composite)

So we have 40 4* or above since 2014 and South Carolina has 22.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26513 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:32 am to
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By the way....South Carolina has zero. They have recruited 22 4* since 2014. (According to 247 Composite)

So we have 40 4* or above since 2014 and South Carolina has 22.

I'm not sure why you keep bringing up South Carolina. UGA beat them by 14 on the road and was in control throughout.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
25117 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:35 am to
UGA beat the piss out of SC this year the final score was not even close to indicative of it. We controlled from the first whistle.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60633 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:35 am to
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Crow has thoroughly explained this to you not only in this thread but in other threads I'm pretty sure unless I'm going crazy. Their good players ARE OLDER than our good players.


Really? South Carolina's players are older? So we move the goal posts from "the cupboard is bare" to the other teams players are older?

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but it is a good indicator of why we lose to a team like Ole Miss who's QB is a senior who will play in the NFL.


Who on earth is talking about Ole Miss? Keep moving that goal post.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26513 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:36 am to
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Really? South Carolina's players are older? So we move the goal posts from "the cupboard is bare" to the other teams players are older?

Again, we beat South Carolina.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60633 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:39 am to
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UGA beat the piss out of SC this year the final score was not even close to indicative of it. We controlled from the first whistle.


WHAAAAAT?

The statistics were close. It took us returning an onside kick for a TD at the end of the game to beat them by 14 points. We passed for 29 yards.

You do realize that had they recovered that onside kick we might be talking about our loss to South Carolina, right? Keep in mind we are talking about a team we beat by 40 points last year and they won 3 games last season.

You need to check your television. I think you were watching a different game.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26513 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:40 am to
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beat them by 14 points.

despite this
quote:

We passed for 29 yards.

Our freshman QB had his worst game. There you go. Easily explained.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
25117 posts
Posted on 11/1/16 at 7:41 am to
Because it's a team we actually lost to instead of one who fricking sucks clearly by how they played against us. Keep being dense on purpose doh

Btw we beat the team they beat too if not for a "fluke" hail marry
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 7:42 am
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