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re: so the 2 states with legal pot have their nfl teams in the superbowl
Posted on 1/21/14 at 2:14 am to Eldrewo
Posted on 1/21/14 at 2:14 am to Eldrewo
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Cigarette smokers fall asleep and light their mattresses on fire all the time. Quite a few house fires have been caused by people falling asleep with a lit cigarette.
But that happens because they were sleepy....not because of the cigarette. however, if it makes you feel better, I don't much care about cigarettes, either.
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You are right about that though. Why should you get in the way of my fun?
Because your fun harms other people when you smoke and get on the road. can you honestly say you have never driven after smoking dope?
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 2:18 am to CatFan81
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Most people that smoke don't get behind a wheel and drive.
Most people that drink don't get behind the wheel of a car and drive. Do you know how many traffic deaths related to alcohol occur every year? And...I have NEVER met a drinker that has never gotten behind the wheel of a car drunk at some time. I would be willing to bet the same can be said about regular smokers of weed. Can you say you have NEVER driven after smoking weed?
Posted on 1/21/14 at 4:48 am to DawgsLife
So, I take it you want to ban alcohol as well, yes?
Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:32 am to JacketFan77
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So, I take it you want to ban alcohol as well, yes?
Quite frankly it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all. however, I know that won't happen. But loosening up laws so we have even more impaired people on the roads is not the answer, either.
I have had several friends die because people take "just one more drink" and then get on the road. One friend was only 16 years old going home from a date when a drunk driver crossed the center line and hit him head on.
But hey...if you think it is not fair to restrict your fun at the expense of lives on the road, then that's your perogative. After all, why should I want to restrict your fun!
Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:33 am to JacketFan77
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Yes, but the cigarette did not cause this. Marijuana puts you in such a relaxed stat that people fall asleep...or at least makes them drowsy. NOT a good thing when you are driving. I assume you smoke pot? Then surely you know this to be a fact, NOT propaganda.
Being relaxed does not equal falling asleep. Smoking pot doesn't make you drowsy, I assume you believe everything people tell you. This is a fact! There are strains that make you sleepy, strains that wake you up, and ones inbetween. Weed makes you less drowsy than sleep pills, cough medicine, antihistamines, etc. Thanks for trying though.
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I don't like cigarettes any better than pot. But, just because, in your mind, pot is not as bad as cigarettes, does not mean pot is good. By the way. Are YOU smoking pot for it's healing effects? Used to be they gave heroin addicts methadone. Wow. Then they found out methadone could be just as addictive.
How about just in your mind, you think that pot is so bad, but in reality, where everyone else lives, pot is GREAT For you! Why do you think 20 states and our capital have medical marijuana? B/c its a medicine. How about pot isnt addicting like prescription drugs, or other illegal drugs. I know a lot of people whos lives have been fricked up from getting pain and anxiety pills, b/c their doctor prescribed it to them. The DR never mentioned the side effects and abuse potential. I know no one ever to pass out on weed while driving, but my friend passed out on prescription pills and wrecked. I know a lot of sober people fall alseep while driving and wreck.
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Is ABC government funded now? LINK / LINK Neither of these sources are from our government OR a Christian website. However, if you would trust an Australian sourse....how about the Queensland Center for Clinical Research? You can find their findings about halfway down this article. LINK / And, I never said it worse than alcohol. Do you have any idea how many traffic deaths are attributed to alcohol? Alcohol figures in half of traffic deaths. I can give you links to those figures, too, if you need them. And they don't come from our government or Christian websites.
So you dont think ABC, FOX and the other news channels aren't propaganda outlets for the govt? Look at who owns all our tv channels and newspaper and magazines, there are like 6 large conglomerates that control our media in the US, so you tell me if they have special interests against pot. If they dont, how come only these places have anything bad to say about medical weed?
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^^42 studies that prove cannabis can cure cancer...thats just cancer. You think pharamceutical companies want you to be able to have this medicine for and cure your cancer compared to buying all their pills and chemo crap, with way way worse side effects than weed? Anyone can grow weed fairly easy, and is the greatest plant on earth..,,,,seriously find me a better plant than weed? Seeds can be eaten and are a superfood. The fiber can made into thousands of different uses, biodiesel, concrete, plastics, clothing, etc. The fruit of the plant can cure cancer and diseases, ease pain, increase appetite, etc. This plant is a savior to our species.
Now make sure you check out this link if nothing else:
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:33 am to JacketFan77
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So, I take it you want to ban alcohol as well, yes?
I answered your question honestly. now you answer my question honestly.
Have you ever driven after drinking or smoking pot?
Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:35 am to DawgsLife
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But that happens because they were sleepy....not because of the cigarette. however, if it makes you feel better, I don't much care about cigarettes, either.
Actually, you are wrong. Sleepiness does not cause fires. Hot things coming in contact with flammable things cause fires. If you are sleepy and are in contact with anything that is flammable, there is a chance you will fall asleep and start a fire. Candles, irons, stoves, fireplaces, etc... can all cause fires if you fall asleep with them on. Should they all be illegal too?
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Because your fun harms other people when you smoke and get on the road. can you honestly say you have never driven after smoking dope?
I can honestly say I have never hurt anyone while driving. My fun does not harm anyone. Now, if I get it my car afterwards and run over some kid as I'm pulling out of the Wendy's parking lot, I should face the consequences. At that point, i would infringe on another person's right to have fun as they see fit. As long as I have fun the way I want, and you have fun the way you want, and we do not impede on the others right to have fun in their own way, then what is the problem? We are all guaranteed life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Don't mess with my pursuit of happiness, and I won't mess with yours! Regardless, this will be a moot point in just a few more years. Your misinformed voice is being drowned out by the majority. Marijuana legalization will happen.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:40 am to dawgsjw
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dawgsjw
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"I think we should legalize marijuana in this country. Just so potheads have nothing to talk about ever again" - Daniel Tosh
Posted on 1/21/14 at 7:41 am to DawgsLife
You seem to think anyone who drinks or smokes will drive right after. Well that is in no way true.
And lets just ignore the fact that pot helps with epilepsy along with inhibiting cancer growth. Also ignore the fact that legalizing pot would give a huge boost to the economy.
And lets just ignore the fact that pot helps with epilepsy along with inhibiting cancer growth. Also ignore the fact that legalizing pot would give a huge boost to the economy.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:01 am to dawgfan24348
Very little of the "Legalize Now" movement has anything to do with medicinal marijuana. Granted, it's the lynchpin of the argument, to be sure. Organic, synthetic, pharmaceutical grade - there appears to be a direct correlation to clinical benefits to some of the compounds inherent to the plant.
But across the board, it's more about rationalization of one's own illicit behavior than it necessarily is for providing relief for a proportionately small subset of the population. The couple of threads on this board have shown that the pro-weed contingency have allowed this one issue to color their entire perspective of college football in one way or another - from whether or not players are receiving just compensation for their efforts on the field, to the nature and ethics of order and the rule of law. (e.g. "They're not hurting anybody, man... It's just weed...," in light of the irrelevance of the offense to the fact that a player broke team rules).
Whenever any individual allows a single issue to dominate their entire political view, you know they're not very adept at critical thought. Legalization of marijuana, abortion, immigration reform. It's all out there and it all needs to be addressed, but letting one issue drive an entire political platform is the mark of an idiot.
But across the board, it's more about rationalization of one's own illicit behavior than it necessarily is for providing relief for a proportionately small subset of the population. The couple of threads on this board have shown that the pro-weed contingency have allowed this one issue to color their entire perspective of college football in one way or another - from whether or not players are receiving just compensation for their efforts on the field, to the nature and ethics of order and the rule of law. (e.g. "They're not hurting anybody, man... It's just weed...," in light of the irrelevance of the offense to the fact that a player broke team rules).
Whenever any individual allows a single issue to dominate their entire political view, you know they're not very adept at critical thought. Legalization of marijuana, abortion, immigration reform. It's all out there and it all needs to be addressed, but letting one issue drive an entire political platform is the mark of an idiot.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:02 am to VoxDawg
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"I think we should legalize marijuana in this country. Just so potheads have nothing to talk about ever again" - Daniel Tosh
You act like there is only 1 group of people who smoke weed....potheads. So there is only 1 group of people who drink alcohol....alcoholics?? There is only 1 group of people who supersizes their food.....obese people. See where this is going?
A ton of people smoke weed, yet you prob would never know if they didnt tell you. You think politicians dont smoke? You think police men dont smoke? You think doctors dont smoke? You think teachers dont smoke weed?
Can I help it that yall want to stereotype a pothead as some hippie in college with his hair long a frick with sandals on playing a guitar.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:06 am to dawgfan24348
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Also ignore the fact that legalizing pot would give a huge boost to the economy.
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Colorado cannabis store sales believe to have sold over 5 million dollars worth of cannabis in the first week of sales (recreational use). Wow! I'm sure other states want in on that chedda. 40-50yrs from people will be like were ppl so stupid back then to make weed illegal. Just like with alcohol
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:17 am to dawgsjw
I never said that people of all types of backgrounds don't smoke. The point of the quote is to get the potheads to shut up because it's all they can fricking talk about. I would think that was less than veiled by the quote itself.
The crux of the "movement" to legalize marijuana has little to do with much of anything other than individuals trying to rationalize and justify their addictive/illicit behavior. It begins and ends there. If it didn't, the standard stoner response wouldn't be to imply that far more people do it than one might think. That's often the weakest argument on the planet for the simple fact that it's fueled purely on speculation and personal opinion.
The crux of the "movement" to legalize marijuana has little to do with much of anything other than individuals trying to rationalize and justify their addictive/illicit behavior. It begins and ends there. If it didn't, the standard stoner response wouldn't be to imply that far more people do it than one might think. That's often the weakest argument on the planet for the simple fact that it's fueled purely on speculation and personal opinion.
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A ton of people smoke weed, yet you prob would never know if they didnt tell you.
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Also, instead of calling for JHC head, why not question UGAs drug policy?
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:38 am to VoxDawg
What is your problem with people smoking pot Jesus Christ. It's a drug with very little side effects and a large number of benefits. Why are you so bent on shitting on people who want it completely legalized?
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:46 am to dawgfan24348
I'm not "shitting on" anyone. The fact that you are so emotionally involved with a drug that so many of your subcultural counterparts swears isn't the least bit addictive (yet you build an entire community around the practice of consuming), points to not having an argument that stands up to either logic or reason. Flying off the handle because someone doesn't agree with you or your personal habits makes you look like a child.
The way I choose to "shite on" marijuana use is by not doing it. Even if it were legal, I have zero interest in partaking. There are plenty of other means where I could turn myself into a one-dimensional cliche, were that my thing.
The way I choose to "shite on" marijuana use is by not doing it. Even if it were legal, I have zero interest in partaking. There are plenty of other means where I could turn myself into a one-dimensional cliche, were that my thing.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:50 am to dawgsjw
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Being relaxed does not equal falling asleep. Smoking pot doesn't make you drowsy, I assume you believe everything people tell you. This is a fact! There are strains that make you sleepy, strains that wake you up, and ones inbetween. Weed makes you less drowsy than sleep pills, cough medicine, antihistamines, etc. Thanks for trying though.
Did you not read the links I sent you? Whether it makes you drowsy, or slows your reflexes....or whatever the reason....accidents increase exponentially when driving after smoking pot.
Argue what you want but credible medical professionals agrees with this.
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How about just in your mind, you think that pot is so bad, but in reality, where everyone else lives, pot is GREAT For you! Why do you think 20 states and our capital have medical marijuana?
Is this what this is about? medical marijuana? Or you just wanting to have "fun"? You keep giving me YOUR opinions and your friends opinions, but so far I haven't seen any links to articles saying that marijuana does NOT impair you, or cause accidents. I, however, have posted links. But, I guess you are smarter than scientists and doctors. Thanks for trying, though.
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there are like 6 large conglomerates that control our media in the US
I used to work in the radio industry. 6 major conglomerates, huh? How many of them are controlled by the government?
I am not arguing that there are cases where it helps cancer patients, glaucoma, etc. Do you have any of these? Stop hiding and pretending you want it legalized for medicinal purposes when all you really want is to get high.
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how come only these places have anything bad to say about medical weed?
By the way....try googling Harmful effects of marijuana. There are 5,220,000 links to articles....not just 6.
Here is just one link from Harvard....but you are probably smarter than all the dummies that go to harvard, right?
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:55 am to dawgfan24348
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You seem to think anyone who drinks or smokes will drive right after. Well that is in no way true.
Nope. I have already said that MOST people will not drink OR drive after imbibing. However, enough do that thousands are dying on our highways every year because some do. 50 states and THOUSANDS die every year. Perhaps you will change your mind if a loved one is killed by a drunk/high driver?
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And lets just ignore the fact that pot helps with epilepsy along with inhibiting cancer growth
I never said that there are SOME good side effects to marijuana...just as there are some good side effects to alcohol.
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Also ignore the fact that legalizing pot would give a huge boost to the economy.
No. It wouldn't. The same argument was used to make a county I lived in wet. It had been dry for years. When it was voted to legalize package stores etc, drunk driving went throught the roof...accidents occurred and more police had to be hired. On top of that, repairs to a particular bridge went sky high. (Not sure why so many drunks decided to drive into the side of that particular bridge....but there were no tax benefits as was argued. I suspect the same would be true with marijuana. No hard core proof, I admit....but common sense would say it.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 8:58 am to dawgsjw
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Also ignore the fact that legalizing pot would give a huge boost to the economy.
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Colorado cannabis store sales believe to have sold over 5 million dollars worth of cannabis in the first week of sales (recreational use). Wow! I'm sure other states want in on that chedda. 40-50yrs from people will be like were ppl so stupid back then to make weed illegal. Just like with
Just like the arguments made for the lottery. And, it HAS helped education...no argument, there. but we were told ALL proceeds would go to education. Not true. Also, HOPE funds to students have been cut and it is harder for students to keep HOPE because ...well...I am guessing fewer people are playing the lottery, or the money is being skimmed. Economic benefits are always exaggerated in these cases.
Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:01 am to VoxDawg
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I'm not "shitting on" anyone. The fact that you are so emotionally involved with a drug that so many of your subcultural counterparts swears isn't the least bit addictive (yet you build an entire community around the practice of consuming), points to not having an argument that stands up to either logic or reason.
Exactly. And here is an article that says that marijuana CAN be addictive...by Psychology Today...NOT a government controlled entity.
A realistic concern for recreational users of marijuana is whether or not they will become addicted. There are no easy answers to this question. In my opinion, the most unbiased book on this and other related topics is The Science of Marijuana (2008). The Science of Marijuana is written by Leslie L. Iverson, a professor of pharmacology at the University of Cambridge in England. In the book, he reviews decades of international research on marijuana, both laboratory research and survey research. Based on his review of the scientific literature, between 10 to 30% of regular users will develop dependency.
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Posted on 1/21/14 at 9:05 am to DawgsLife
Hey guys...I've enjoyed our discussion. I am not here to tick anybody off. I just have an opinion, just like you do. I have to go out for awhile and might not be back online today....my intent was not to make anybody mad. But just try to be more objective. Look at the facts. There are some very real and legitimate uses for marijuana...but I suspect none of these uses are why you want to legalize it. I mean, honestly? Do real research....don't rely on what a stoner buddy tells you. Look at real research and honestly ask yourself WHY you want it legalized. Do YOU have a medical use for it, or are you just wanting it easier to get high. And don't argue that it isn't because you want it to be easier because it is already easy....if that is the case, why do you care if it is legalized?
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