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re: So really this Kiffin LSU thing is to keep college coaches from setting up shop at NFL,
Posted on 9/8/26 at 8:08 pm to Peter Buck
Posted on 9/8/26 at 8:08 pm to Peter Buck
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Some governing body needs to somehow step up and make and enforce rules before this thing ruins the sport.
All I can see is a pre-NFL, with draft, anti-trust exemption, collective bargaining, etc. How the colleges and universities can reconcile any of this, now or later, with their reason for existing I have no idea.
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Posted on 9/9/26 at 9:09 am to WG_Dawg
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but my understanding is this is a one year only sort of situation
For now.
When JJ McCarthy inevitably gets cut by the Vikings, what will stop him from suing for more college eligibility and judge shopping until he finds one who graduated from Michigan who will rule him eligible?
I'd bet my mortgage on a scenario like this unfolding within the next 5 years.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 7:03 pm to VADawg
You sir win the internet. As long as anyone and everyone can bring a lawsuit for anything they want to college football will be a shitshow.
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:09 pm to VADawg
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For now. When JJ McCarthy inevitably gets cut by the Vikings, what will stop him from suing for more college eligibility and judge shopping until he finds one who graduated from Michigan who will rule him eligible? I'd bet my mortgage on a scenario like this unfolding within the next 5 years.
People can and will sue over whatever they like. But if JJ McCarthy gets cut by the Vikings and decides to sue for more eligibility, his lawsuit will have nothing to do with these class of 2022 litigants. The distinction is very clear. The class of 22 players were within the 5 year window when the rule passed and still are, which is why they should've been granted another year of eligibility under the 5 for 5 rule. JJ McCarthy graduated HS in 2021, so his 5 year window expired at the end of the 2025 football season.
Can JJ McCarthy come up with some reason to sue the NCAA for eligibility or money. Of course, just like can come up with a reason to sue Walmart or his doctor. But the premise of any legal action he brings against the NCAA won't use or depend on the premise behind the injunction granted to the class of 2022 because he doesn't fit their circumstances.
This post was edited on 9/9/26 at 8:16 pm
Posted on 9/9/26 at 8:11 pm to howieshoodlums
This is a long copy paste, I’m keeping it off the rant bc lsu fans are psychos. But check out this timeline
"The SEC accusing LSU of “lack of institutional control” hits differently when you look at the timeline:
2011-12 — NCAA major-infractions case. Recruiting violations. LSU put on probation.
2012-17 — Booster John Paul Funes provides $180K in impermissible benefits to a football player’s family using money embezzled from a hospital foundation.
2013 — Les Miles investigation intentionally stored offsite. AD Joe Alleva recommends firing him. LSU keeps him.
2017-19 — Will Wade caught on FBI wiretap discussing a “strong-arse offer.”
2019 — LSU suspends Wade after he refuses to meet with LSU/NCAA officials. Reinstates him 5 weeks later.
2020 — LSU’s handling of sexual misconduct allegations exposed.
2020 — Odell Beckham Jr. hands LSU players cash after the national title.
2020 — LSU self-imposes scholarship cuts, recruiting restrictions and a bowl ban amid the NCAA investigation. LSU’s statement: “This decision reflects LSU’s commitment to compliance with NCAA regulations and maintenance of institutional control.”
2021 — Independent review finds systemic Title IX failures. Verge Ausberry suspended 30 days without pay.
2022 — LSU fires Wade after an NCAA Notice of Allegations containing multiple Level I allegations.
2022 — Separate NCAA case: Football commits COVID dead-period recruiting violations. One year probation.
2023 — IARP resolves the football/basketball case: multiple violations, failure to monitor, 37 football wins vacated and 3 more years probation, beginning when the prior probation ended Sept. 21, 2023. The NCAA also alleged lack of institutional control. The IARP did not sustain that allegation.
2024 — LSU pays $1.9M to settle Title IX claims. No admission of liability.
2026 — LSU rehires Will Wade. The AD announcing the hire? Verge Ausberry.
2026 — Wade pursues international pros, an NBA draft pick and players with professional basketball experience.
2026 — LSU pursues outside capital tied to future SEC media revenue.
2026 — LSU pushes to add players who signed NFL contracts and went through NFL camps.
Sept. 2026 — The SEC sues LSU. Ausberry is a named defendant.
LSU ultimately leaves the former NFL players off its final roster.
The SEC presses forward anyway.
Its amended complaint says LSU’s actions “confirm the lack of institutional control over the athletics program at LSU that is required by Article 6 of the SEC Constitution.”
At the informal direction of the other 15 SEC presidents and chancellors, Sankey calls a Special Meeting for Sept. 10 to consider terminating LSU’s membership — whether LSU backs off the professional players or not.
And LSU is still on NCAA probation.
It expires Sept. 21.
"The SEC accusing LSU of “lack of institutional control” hits differently when you look at the timeline:
2011-12 — NCAA major-infractions case. Recruiting violations. LSU put on probation.
2012-17 — Booster John Paul Funes provides $180K in impermissible benefits to a football player’s family using money embezzled from a hospital foundation.
2013 — Les Miles investigation intentionally stored offsite. AD Joe Alleva recommends firing him. LSU keeps him.
2017-19 — Will Wade caught on FBI wiretap discussing a “strong-arse offer.”
2019 — LSU suspends Wade after he refuses to meet with LSU/NCAA officials. Reinstates him 5 weeks later.
2020 — LSU’s handling of sexual misconduct allegations exposed.
2020 — Odell Beckham Jr. hands LSU players cash after the national title.
2020 — LSU self-imposes scholarship cuts, recruiting restrictions and a bowl ban amid the NCAA investigation. LSU’s statement: “This decision reflects LSU’s commitment to compliance with NCAA regulations and maintenance of institutional control.”
2021 — Independent review finds systemic Title IX failures. Verge Ausberry suspended 30 days without pay.
2022 — LSU fires Wade after an NCAA Notice of Allegations containing multiple Level I allegations.
2022 — Separate NCAA case: Football commits COVID dead-period recruiting violations. One year probation.
2023 — IARP resolves the football/basketball case: multiple violations, failure to monitor, 37 football wins vacated and 3 more years probation, beginning when the prior probation ended Sept. 21, 2023. The NCAA also alleged lack of institutional control. The IARP did not sustain that allegation.
2024 — LSU pays $1.9M to settle Title IX claims. No admission of liability.
2026 — LSU rehires Will Wade. The AD announcing the hire? Verge Ausberry.
2026 — Wade pursues international pros, an NBA draft pick and players with professional basketball experience.
2026 — LSU pursues outside capital tied to future SEC media revenue.
2026 — LSU pushes to add players who signed NFL contracts and went through NFL camps.
Sept. 2026 — The SEC sues LSU. Ausberry is a named defendant.
LSU ultimately leaves the former NFL players off its final roster.
The SEC presses forward anyway.
Its amended complaint says LSU’s actions “confirm the lack of institutional control over the athletics program at LSU that is required by Article 6 of the SEC Constitution.”
At the informal direction of the other 15 SEC presidents and chancellors, Sankey calls a Special Meeting for Sept. 10 to consider terminating LSU’s membership — whether LSU backs off the professional players or not.
And LSU is still on NCAA probation.
It expires Sept. 21.
Posted on 9/10/26 at 7:07 am to wdhalgren
Even with he courts decision, these returning players should still have to follow existing SEC transfer rules and sign with their former team due to the court decision being made outside of the SEC transfer rule.
Posted on 9/10/26 at 8:47 am to WG_Dawg
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Since the 5 for 5 thing is now in place I don't think we're going to see this shitstorm again. I could be very wrong though and don't really know the deatils, that's just what I think is the very big picture situation
Someone will challenge the 5for5 thing soon.
Posted on 9/10/26 at 2:35 pm to NytroBud
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Even with he courts decision, these returning players should still have to follow existing SEC transfer rules and sign with their former team due to the court decision being made outside of the SEC transfer rule.
As I understand it, the thought process behind the court decision is this: These players should be fully eligible under the 5 for 5 rule because they are within the time frame it specifies. As such, they should have full rights of that eligibility, including a window to transfer. Those rights also include the ability to play for ANY TEAM that offers them, just like everyone else. And those rights are not lessened by actions they took to advance their career while believing their elibility was finished.
The NCAA should have either passed the rule earlier so the affected players could act with foreknowledge, or specifically granted them those rights when the rule passed. They did the exact opposite and almost immediately lost multiple rulings in court. When the SEC tried to indirectly thwart a court ruling by threatening to punish teams who signed those players, the court essentially told them the same thing; this group gets every opportunity given to anyone who is eligible under 5 for 5. The SEC said "ok", and then proceeded to make what appears to be an end run around that ruling by going after LSU in federal court.
I personally think the NCAA dragged their heels on purpose in an attempt to keep those 2022 players from being eligible. They fought a lawsuit from last September on exactly that, and then apparently "changed their mind" and instituted the rule after the players had, by necessity, already started making future career moves. The NCAA was, IMO, incompetent at best, conniving at worst. My view of the SEC is worse. It looks to me like they have taken a stand of defiance against the court, basically saying our structure as a "voluntary association", is beyond your reach, even if we act in an arbitrary or selective fashion. That seems unlikely to me, but I'm not a lawyer so maybe they're right. If so, that unadulterated power, combined with their handling of this, feels like a portent of much worse problems ahead. Even under good management and with member oversight, I'm not a fan of hitching your financial wagon to an adversarial (by nature) organization that claims the right to kick you out at a moments notice, without recourse or even a chance to temporarily block or slow down the proceedings. Especially when they demonstrate that with a trial run. If Sankey remains in charge of that, I think UGA should start looking at options.
This post was edited on 9/10/26 at 6:59 pm
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