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Peter Buck
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re: Shotgun/Pistol Dive vs zone read vs read option vs RPO
We had TEs lining up like slot receivers and then motioning to a blocking scheme... We also ran bunch type formations where the TEs motioned more like and H back ... almost like they were running iso’s out of it, but it may be called something else these days..


meansonny
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re: Shotgun/Pistol Dive vs zone read vs read option vs RPO
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We had TEs lining up like slot receivers and then motioning to a blocking scheme... We also ran bunch type formations where the TEs motioned more like and H back ... almost like they were running iso’s out of it, but it may be called something else these days..


I love that motion (rbs out wide and motioning to the backfield as well).

I just love what the i formation can do in short yardage. But coaches who get paid a lot more than me have gone away from it. I'm not the biggest falcons fan. But the offense went through an identity crisis when they got rid of ovie mugheli (sp?). They struggled in the red zone.


Coach7
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re: Shotgun/Pistol Dive vs zone read vs read option vs RPO
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You might disagree, but it doesnt often benefit to a power scheme on interior runs (and I think we saw that the past 2 seasons.


All depends on who the Hback is. Auburn has a lot of success marrying the power run game and the H back.


Coach7
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re: Shotgun/Pistol Dive vs zone read vs read option vs RPO
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the offense went through an identity crisis when they got rid of ovie mugheli (sp?). They struggled in the red zone.


Seems like that was more than just Ovie.
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Coach7
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re: Shotgun/Pistol Dive vs zone read vs read option vs RPO
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We had TEs lining up like slot receivers and then motioning to a blocking scheme... We also ran bunch type formations where the TEs motioned more like and H back ... almost like they were running iso’s out of it, but it may be called something else these days..


Cat and mouse game. You find out quickly whether you can catch them in the wrong defensive personnel. Do they declare personnel based off player or where they line up? How well do they adjust to Presnap motion and formation changes. Also get the benefit of limited looks defensively as most teams only have a few formation checks.
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meansonny
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re: Shotgun/Pistol Dive vs zone read vs read option vs RPO
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All depends on who the Hback is. Auburn has a lot of success marrying the power run game and the H back.


I don't watch Auburn games enough to have an opinion there.

But the stats for Auburn almost mirror UGA in 3rd and short / 4th and short.
Adding 1st downs and TDs together, they convert 65% of 3rd and under 3 on the ground.
Adding 1st downs and TDs together, they convert 40% of 4th down attempts on the ground.

UGA was 64% conversion on 3rd and <=3 (with a much better ypa).
UGA was 40% of 4th down attempts with a much better ypa.

I was not impressed with UGAs short yardage game. Considering that UGA led the conference in pass attempts in 3rd and <=3 (25 pass attempts which is the same as our rush attempts at that down and distance), i dont think the coaching staff was impressed with our short yardage either.


meansonny
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re: Shotgun/Pistol Dive vs zone read vs read option vs RPO
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Seems like that was more than just Ovie.


They didn't just not resign Ovie. They went away from the iformation. You are right. It kind of mirrors Smart not bringing in fullbacks and not using the iformation, either.


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Coach7
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re: Shotgun/Pistol Dive vs zone read vs read option vs RPO
I’m talking about the h back and power running game in general not just in short yardage. I will say there is a reason Auburn will have a new Ol Coach this year. Simply did not run the football well enough under Grimes.
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meansonny
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re: Shotgun/Pistol Dive vs zone read vs read option vs RPO
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I’m talking about the h back and power running game in general not just in short yardage.


Makes sense.
I like the HBack. And I like being able to change formation and style of play without substituting.

I just wish we had a better short yardage game. Everyone hoped that size and stars on the OL would have given us those automatic yards. But the best short yardage looks that we have had the past 3 years was with Fields at QB. He was 100% on third down and 50% on 4th down (the SECCG 4th and long affects this one)


Coach7
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re: Shotgun/Pistol Dive vs zone read vs read option vs RPO
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But the best short yardage looks that we have had the past 3 years was with Fields at QB.


Without a doubt. QB is a game changer with numbers in the run game. Also great in short yardage when you’re as talented and as big as Fields is.


Peter Buck
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re: Shotgun/Pistol Dive vs zone read vs read option vs RPO
It adds more options/threats, but I was really disappointed in how we seemed to lose at the point of attack this year... Sometimes we got out-schemed, but it seemed like we just got plain whipped a lot.


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