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Posted by DaveyDownerDawg
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Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:54 am to
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well your handle checks out...


Hey man, I've been deep in the Kool-Aid this year.....no where close to the Nega-Dawg I used to be.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:56 am to
Whip that arse. Simple as that. No excuses.
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
8445 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 2:18 pm to
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We were getting beat no matter how you slice it... we were just managing to limit the damage to FGs... which with Carlson's leg is a pretty big range unfortunately.


The personal foul penalties and miscues were mounting, which was causing a breakdown in our Defense.

We stopped them a few times in that first half but immediately gave it right back.

Yes, we played sloppy, but that game should have been 26-24 Auburn. On their home field on that day, that is nothing to be mad about, esp since they did the same thing to Bama.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 2:24 pm to
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The personal foul penalties and miscues were mounting, which was causing a breakdown in our Defense.

We stopped them a few times in that first half but immediately gave it right back.

Yes, we played sloppy, but that game should have been 26-24 Auburn. On their home field on that day, that is nothing to be mad about, esp since they did the same thing to Bama.


Again, I don't disagree that we bowed up when it mattered for a while... but the penalties and miscues are PART of a bad defensive performance. To say the defense didn't play "bad" is simply inaccurate. They didn't play well to begin with, and it devolved from there... None of this is to say that they can't fix it or that I think they'll do the same this weekend, just correcting the statement. It was a bad defensive performance. It wasn't the surface level 40 points given up performance, but to allow what I believe was 3 consecutive drives into the redzone to start the game, have trouble stopping Kerryon Johnson all game long (not many negative yardage plays, seemed to pop through for 4-5 yards even when it looked bottled up... part of that was due to holding, but part of that was due to getting our asses handed to us by their OL).

I think there are plenty of reasons to be optimistic about this weekend, but you can't just excuse the defensive performance from that game as "not bad".
Posted by Dawg4Life47
Beach
Member since Sep 2013
8445 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 2:28 pm to
Have you every played football ?

You can play just fine in a game and get soundly beat because of miscues, short fields and penalties adding up.

This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 2:29 pm
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 2:48 pm to
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Have you every played football ?

You can play just fine in a game and get soundly beat because of miscues, short fields and penalties adding up.



Yes... and miscues =/= "playing well"... particularly at the rate we were committing them. What part of this is so difficult?

Even when we weren't committing personal fouls, we were giving up an average of 5.2 ypc to Kerryon (this is not including the breakdowns on screen plays). We gave up 55 yards to Eli Stove on 4 jet sweeps. While we held Stidham to a QBR in the 40's, he still ended up throwing 3 TDs... There wasn't anything about that defensive performance to really sell as "not bad" other than the early drives stopping them for FGs. If I only look at the first half, we managed ONE tackle for loss on KJ, one for no gain, and one more for less than 3 yards... every other run went for 3 or more yards (believe only 2 were less than 5)...

It was an uncharacteristic performance from our defense. Even in the Notre Dame game (another team with talent in the run game), we managed to keep it reasonably contained. We failed to do that in the first matchup with Auburn. Will see if KJ is healthy first of all, as Kam Martin is not the same caliber back, but the Defense has work to do to say the least... the players will be the first to admit it (look back at the interviews).
Posted by NCDawg52
Atlanta, GA
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 11/29/17 at 2:55 pm to
Auburn is a good team. We are a good team. We played at their place and made a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes. Auburn has improved all year and is hitting their stride at the end. They remind me of our 2007 team in terms of improvement over the course of the season.

I don't think they are quite as good as our first game made them look and I don't think we are that bad. Vegas has called both games near pickems, and I think that is probably accurate. I'm looking forward to a great game and assume we will play much cleaner, disciplined football than the first go around.

As usual, I will drink copious amounts of beer and bourbon and yell at the TV until my wife throws something at me. Go Dawgs!
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13172 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 3:00 pm to
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I rewatched every offensive play we had in that Auburn game.

Our Oline played the same as Auburns Oline, the difference was two things.



You and I must have been watching a different game then. Because what I saw was Georgia only had 46 rushing yards with a 1.4 yard per carry avg. because our OL got completely owned by their front 7. Meanwhile Auburn's OL dominated our front 7 to the tune of 237 yards rushing for a 5.2 yard average.
Posted by mmmmmbeeer
ATL
Member since Nov 2014
7434 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 3:43 pm to
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Dear Diary....




I read it in a similar tone.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 4:10 pm to
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Auburn is a good team. We are a good team. We played at their place and made a lot of uncharacteristic mistakes. Auburn has improved all year and is hitting their stride at the end. They remind me of our 2007 team in terms of improvement over the course of the season.

I don't think they are quite as good as our first game made them look and I don't think we are that bad. Vegas has called both games near pickems, and I think that is probably accurate. I'm looking forward to a great game and assume we will play much cleaner, disciplined football than the first go around.

Yeah... I'm by no means a nega-dawg, but somehow I'm having to defend an accurate negative opinion of a past performance...

We played our worst defensive game of the year, but somehow it's wrong to say our defense played poorly... don't have to take my opinion for it...

2017 UGA Advanced Statistical Profile



So we played roughly half as well defensively as a game where we gave up 2 blown coverage TDs for 60 something yards each.

FWIW, Advanced stats shows that Auburn *didn't* actually play their best game, which I found surprising, but it was about on par with their best road performance against anyone other than Arkansas (Mizzou). They had a better offensive performance against us than they did against Alabama though defensively they graded out slightly higher.

We, on the other hand, obviously had our worst performance in total... as has been stated in many places, the game looks a lot different with a few key corrections: missed down field connection/lack of time on flea flicker - either of those likely results in +7 points, extended drive due to leaping penalty +7, poor clock management led to farther missed FG attempt +3 minimum, Hardman fumble +7... so 24 points worth of differential directly attributed to 4 "gaffes". I think our late TD was a bit of garbage time, so it still likely isn't enough to change the outcome in that game with all of the other issues that happened more consistently, but as I've said before and many others have, it was a much closer game than the score indicated even as poorly as we were playing.

It's going to take an A+ effort on the defensive side of the ball and some creative wrinkles from Chaney, but I see room for optimism. I don't envision this team goes out there with any sort of over-confidence this time around, the "neutral" crowd will play a role, and ultimately, they're playing with house money... it's been one hell of a season no matter what. Go Dawgs!

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As usual, I will drink copious amounts of beer and bourbon and yell at the TV until my wife throws something at me. Go Dawgs!

Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 4:12 pm to
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You and I must have been watching a different game then. Because what I saw was Georgia only had 46 rushing yards with a 1.4 yard per carry avg. because our OL got completely owned by their front 7. Meanwhile Auburn's OL dominated our front 7 to the tune of 237 yards rushing for a 5.2 yard average.


How dare you question his opinion... "Have you every played football?"
Posted by FaCubeItches
Soviet Monica, People's Republic CA
Member since Sep 2012
5875 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 7:49 pm to
Pretty cool that the chart says we still have a 1% win expectancy in a game that we already lost. Guess we can still hope for a miraculous post-game comeback win.



Then again, it also says that we don't have a 100% chance of victory against either App State or Notre Dame, so...
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 11/29/17 at 8:14 pm to
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Pretty cool that the chart says we still have a 1% win expectancy in a game that we already lost. Guess we can still hope for a miraculous post-game comeback win.


Pretty sure that's not what it's indicating. I think it's giving you a percentage of win probability if we had the same percentile performance against the teams on the schedule again. Though I'm not 100% certain.
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