re: School Shooting in Barrow County

An example needs to be made. The kids need to see the consequences as too severe to try.

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Damn. All schools need armed police at this point. Did they have that?

If we got m9ney for Ukraine, we got money for armed security/police at schools.

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Yes, it is being reported an armed resource officer got Colt Gray to surrender his weapon and assume the position for arrest. Me personally, I would have just shot him in the heat of the moment.

Resource officers aren't much of a deterrent for the deranged. Most of them are there on a suicide mission, this one in particular decided he didn't want to die so he surrendered. Resource officers can certainly keep the damage down, only 4 dead instead of 40.

Armed resource officers in school aren't a new concept. I went to a lily white high school (Harrison) in the 90's, pre-Columbine, with an armed resource officer. His name was Officer Bob and busted me with cigarettes and a pocket knife once.

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Statistics rule the laws of nature and the universe, but people who think in terms of probabilities also rarely happen. We're very capable of bankrupting ourselves in an attempt to mitigate every improbable disaster.

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Learning to think abstractly is about the only useful thing that came out of an otherwise useless political science degree. I had one professor who was really into moral panics and a moral panic historian and moral panicninja.

Moral panics rarely work out well. The Patriot Act is a fine modern-day example.

This shite sickens me happening in GA and with two kids in high school I worry all the time about something like this happening. The typical gun control brigade mouths up because a) it fits their politics and b) gun regulations are the simplest low IQ solution. The fact is that guns have been a part of American households since before we were America. The AR 15 is deadly, but no more so than a handgun. It’s all bullshite.

I’m no expert on the subject but it’s obvious the decay in our society is producing these unbalanced kids. This could be many things:

POS individuals are supported and provided for by our govt so they are empowered to be POS people and have POS kids. They have no moral grounding from home and are basically feral children.

Parents are more engaged with work and income than they are with their children. Many are raised by strangers for most of the time. Parents talk about being shocked when their kids shoot up a school.

There is way too much connectivity with the outside world and all manner of vile shite. Kids are connected via phone at a very early age and once that starts it’s hard AF to pry them away to spend actual time with real people. Also they’re constantly connected via text groups at school so it never stops. You can never escape a bully a-hole.

Your sense of self worth as a kid isn’t just your peer group or school…it’s set by idiots online you’ll never meet

Too many kids are brought up in broken households.

If a kid is mentally unbalanced in any way, any or all of these factors can push them off the edge and nobody notices.

Now, before you light me up I’m not saying that any of these are a direct cause. Also, I have two kids and it’s hard AF to stay on top of them….and God knows I wish I’d have done better. But there is a societal poison that aligns every so often and when it does these things happen.

The scary thing is there’s no real walking it back. We can’t go back to 1980 where we listened to music with our friends, played pick up sports, mom made dinner every night and we spent our weekend riding around on bikes in a small town where we knew everyone and everyone knew us…but I wish we could.

Barrow County was lucky to have a School Resource Officer that acted so quickly. He was able to neutralize the shooter and lives were saved by his actions and presence. That is worth every penny Barrow County citizens have paid for the guy. It’s a damn shame four people lost their lives today and a school full of kids and teachers will have to deal with this trauma. Every school should have competent police and/ or teachers trained to attack a situation like this with proper arms. Just a sickening day for all Georgians.

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mental institutions

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And reform/alternative schools.

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if he got it from home, the parents belong in prison.

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I normally agree with most of your takes but we have to part ways on this.

You gonna lock a middle aged man because of something a 14 year old with puberty hormones pulls off? Hell no. I ain't saying they are in the running for parents of the year; but shite, I would not want my dad held accountable the type of shite I tried to pull off no more than I would want to held accountable for the shite he did pull off.

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.if he got it from home, the parents belong in prison.

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man this is an awful take. If a 17 year old sneaks a few pulls from the old man's liquor cabinet, should the parent be jailed if the kid gets a DUI and hurts someone?

We need a whole lot more personal accountability and people facing consequences for their OWN actions, and a whole lot less of spreading blame around to a hundred other different sources.

That example involving the booze and underage kids happens all the time btw.

Idk. I think if your son is threatening to shoot the school and the FBI visits your house in 2023, maybe having accessible firearms in the house going forward isn't a good idea.

As a guardian of the child that is the parents personal responsibility imo.