re: SBIV excuses.

There is no way that tool can admit anything positive about Stetson Bennett, even if it is FACT.....actually 2 facts, that Bennett is the reigning MVP of both the CFB semi-final and the CFB Championship game.

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had a better QB

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Alabama had and still does have the better QB. Are you implying that if we were playing fantasy football, you would pick Bennett rather than take Young, if you could chose either? If so, that would be based on something other than realities about talent level.

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I have asked you several times if you could admit that Stetson Bennett played a role in our winning the National Championship and you can't bring yourself to admit that.

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I must have missed that. You're going down the wrong rabbit hole here. I would never claim that he had zero role. (How could he have no role at all?) What I've said elsewhere is that I give far more credit to other areas of the team. I don't know exactly the percentage I would put on Bennett's role but this reminds me of those posts after the SECCG loss...people demanding we assign blame. Seems that I recall the argument was that the defense should get 80% credit for that loss and Bennett should get 20%, if that. At least that's what the Bennett camp argued...probably not unreasonable. So, I'll go with approximately that for the title game...15-20% Bennett, 80-85% our defense, our OL, plus Bowers, Cook and Burton.

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MVP

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Not sure where you are getting that I denied who won the MVP. Sounds like a straw man. Maybe you're missing that I don't care. MVP is a media/PR thing...means nothing to me (especially when historically, the QB of the winning team almost always wins except in more unusual circumstances where a RB has an unreal day of production).

That's nice but Bennett's not your personal avatar.

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Alabama had and still does have the better QB.

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I have no problem saying that I agree.

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I would never claim that he had zero role. (How could he have no role at all?)

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Fair enough. would you say he had a significant role? That he had two pinpoint passes that went for TDs and a couple of scrambles to keep drives alive that er eventually scored on?

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I don't know exactly the percentage I would put on Bennett's role but this reminds me of those posts after the SECCG loss...people demanding we assign blame.

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Nobody demanded you assign a percentage. We did point out that the defense giving up huge plays and 35 points played a huge role.
For example. In games in which or defense gave up 35 or more points we were 0-1. In games in which Alabama scored 35 or more points Alabama was 9-1. That's not some wild coincidence. I will admit that Bennett played a significant role for the loss, but he was far from the sole reason we lost. However you and your buddies couldn't contain your self and said, "See! We told you Bennett couldn't win the big game!" (Not sure if you specifically....I'd have to look that up)

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So, I'll go with approximately that for the title game...15-20% Bennett, 80-85% our defense, our OL, plus Bowers, Cook and Burton.

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Actually, this MIGHT be reasonable. It would be difficult to assign a specific percentage.

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Not sure where you are getting that I denied who won the MVP. Sounds like a straw man. Maybe you're missing that I don't care. MVP is a media/PR thing...means nothing to me (especially when historically, the QB of the winning team almost always wins except in more unusual circumstances where a RB has an unreal day of production).

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Reading is you friend. Where did i say you denied he was the MVP? I simplasked if you could actually say it since you seem incapable of saying anything good about Bennett. I mean several of Bennett's doubters have come in to admit they were wrong. Not you.

And talk about Straw Man? I never said you denied it.

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means nothing to me (especially when historically, the QB of the winning team almost always wins except in more unusual circumstances where a RB has an unreal day of production).

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And why do you think that is? Why do winning team QBs typically win the MVP?

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Why should you get a pass?

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Because he would do what all racists do - scream racism and say he's oppressed

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Because he would do what all racists do - scream racism and say he's oppressed

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I don't even know if he is AA or Caucasian. Either way it amazes me that he thinks it acceptable to call people the "N" word or "Carcker" or any other offensive term.

Don't get me wrong, I am not politically correct and think it has gone way too far in our country. It doesn't bother me to be called "old" (I mean the derogatory term will fit him one day and like his comments about Bennett he will have to live with it) but if it is wrong for one racial group, then it is a given it is wrong for another. And, I do think we should be a little more cognizant about using offensive terms for people.

He just comes off a bit "One way" to me. He can do and say whatever he wants while others should toe the line.

TLDR
What you said.

What?????

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You can’t blame him for the losses and not give him credit for the win!

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Have seen more blame defense for the loss this year but credit Stet for the win

Just to clarify...I am white.

Since when is a white guy using the term "cracker" racist?

If blacks can say the "N-word" to other blacks and that's not considered racist, I definitely don't think a white guy using the term cracker with whites is racist. Also, I could have just as easily said "hick" or "redneck" or something along those lines.

Classist or snobby, maybe. But racist? I don't think so.

Funny...never thought this board was known for such political correctness!

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Just to clarify...I am white.

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Fair enough. I do have an honest question because it seems odd to me. Ehy call people cracker? That just seems strange. Again, I don't care because it frankly doesn't bother me. It just seems odd.

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Since when is a white guy using the term "cracker" racist?

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I was supposed to know you were white somehow? I have never heard anybody call another person cracker. I do know that AA's use the term sometimes like some white people use the "N" word. Neither is good, though.

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If blacks can say the "N-word" to other blacks and that's not considered racist, I definitely don't think a white guy using the term cracker with whites is racist. Also, I could have just as easily said "hick" or "redneck" or something along those lines.

Classist or snobby, maybe. But racist? I don't think so.

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Again. How were any of us supposed to know what race you are?

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Funny...never thought this board was known for such political c

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Typically I am not. However, I am not a racist, either, and think racist terms should be avoided.

Is that wrong?

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And by the way? AA's use the "N" word when addressing friends typically. I am not your friend. I don't know you and I don't like you. So, I would take being called a term typically reserved for racism as racist no matter who it came from....especially when used in a derogatory manner....which you clearly did.