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Posted on 3/26/20 at 8:05 pm to djsdawg
Posted on 3/26/20 at 8:05 pm to djsdawg
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Or you might get placed on a vent.
Maybe, but I’m in my late 20s with no pre-existing conditions. Probably less than 0.1% mortality for me, most likely have mild symptoms at most. That’s a pretty easy call just looking at risk and reward.
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 8:20 pm to Crowknowsbest
Final mortality in the US will be more like .0016, or expressed as a percentage: 0.16% overall. Among people under 70, even lower. More like 0.00016%, or statistically insignificant.
Watch.
Watch.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 8:22 pm to deeprig9
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Final mortality in the US will be more like .0016, or expressed as a percentage: 0.16% overall. Among people under 70, even lower. More like 0.00016%, or statistically insignificant.
Watch.
Is that of people infected or total people in the US?
Posted on 3/26/20 at 8:28 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Can you give me 1 piece of evidence it wouldn't be the same had we not done any social distancing
Umm... Italy?
Here we go again.
1: Italy has the oldest population in Europe. This virus is especially harsh on old people. Naturally, Italy will have a higher mortality rate.
2: Italy's initial outbreak was in a province with a very high Chinese immigrant population. Instead of having foreign vectors "trickle in" a few here and a few there, Italy had thousands of migrant workers come in at the same time after having been back home in China for Chinese New Year. More vectors to initiate the exponential growth, the more exponential it goes.
3: Italy has socialized medicine.
Combine all three- Italy getting hit extra-hard.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 8:28 pm to Dawgsontop34
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Is that of people infected or total people in the US?
Yes.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 8:31 pm to deeprig9
Important Breaking Update News Flash:
The Publix on the corner of 20 and Ozora RD has Tropicalia back in stock. The produce section was well stocked, the meat section was as good as I've seen it in two weeks, but the paper products are still empty. This is as of 2 hours ago.
The Publix on the corner of 20 and Ozora RD has Tropicalia back in stock. The produce section was well stocked, the meat section was as good as I've seen it in two weeks, but the paper products are still empty. This is as of 2 hours ago.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 8:49 pm to SneakyWaff1es
quote:And I guaran fricking T you that there's at least 50 million people in this country right now that have antibodies to this virus because it's already run through their system somewhere in 2019.
We won't get a real idea of the percentage if the population that had it without antibody testing.
I know damn well it went through my house in Dec-Jan. My wife tested negative for flu, but had every flu symptom you could think of, and then coughed non-stop for 6 straight weeks all day every day. Both my daughters had the same thing for about 3 weeks. I had it for about a week. The ridiculous unusual dry cough and on/off minor fevers for weeks is the tell-tale sign.
And countless people are coming out saying they had the exact same unusual shite go through their house somewhere between Sept. and Jan., too.
I promise you, a bunch of elderly and already sick people got gravely ill and even died of symptoms like I just mentioned between Sept. and Dec. in 2019, and doctors and hospitals simply chalked it up to "old age" and "unknown", or blamed it on their already compromised pre-existing conditions. These people didn't get tested for COVID-19 because it wasn't a thing until China and the media claimed it was "NEW" and acted like Patient-Zero began in late December. Which was bullshite.
If they were to go back and do autopsies on everyone who died between Sept. and Dec. last year, as well as do antibody tests on people who came in with flu symptoms but tested negative for the flu (like my wife) in those months, they'd find that virtually all of them had COVID-19.
In other words, the mortality rate would plummet to around typical flu rates, and this thing would turn out to be nothing more than a slightly worse virus than the flu because of it's excessive contagion rate. BUT, the vast, VAST majority of people who are/were generally healthy who contracted it recover from it and are fine.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 9:07 pm to BeefDawg
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Dec-Jan. My wife tested negative for flu, but had every flu symptom you could think of, and then coughed non-stop for 6 straight weeks all day every day. Both my daughters had the same thing for about 3 weeks. I had it for about a week. The ridiculous unusual dry cough and on/off minor fevers for weeks is the tell-tale sign.
Me too.
But when you have small children, you are constantly sick almost year round. It's impossible to say just based on symptoms. We are coughing, sneezing, in and out of lowgrade fevers, pretty much October through MArch every year with our little one in daycare/prek. Whether or not CV went through, impossible to say at this point, but yes, we had the same symptoms. Something else that gets lost in all this, there's not just 3 or 4 viruses out there. Flu A, Flu B, H1N1, CV19.. there thousands or millions of these little microbe frickers out there at all times and they are constantly evolving and changing.
I really want to know, from the experts, the same thing you want to know. When can we have an antibody test?
Posted on 3/26/20 at 9:17 pm to deeprig9
I hope you are right. If you are, it means there is some righteous heavy lifting happening on the front lines of this mess. The least I can do is stay out of their damned way.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 9:28 pm to deeprig9
quote:My wife is a nurse and gets the flu 1-2x a year, plus that occasional cold and sniffle crap, and it's always, ALWAYS virtually the same. Typical sinus congestion, minor cough, maybe a 1-2 day consistent fever with the flu, tired, aching joints... typical shite that has happened year over year for the 35 years I've known her.
Me too.
But when you have small children, you are constantly sick almost year round. It's impossible to say just based on symptoms. We are coughing, sneezing, in and out of lowgrade fevers, pretty much October through MArch every year with our little one in daycare/prek. Whether or not CV went through, impossible to say at this point, but yes, we had the same symptoms. Something else that gets lost in all this, there's not just 3 or 4 viruses out there. Flu A, Flu B, H1N1, CV19.. there thousands or millions of these little microbe frickers out there at all times and they are constantly evolving and changing.
I really want to know, from the experts, the same thing you want to know. When can we have an antibody test?
But this last year was just different. Like without question, 1000% different.
Never in her lifetime has she ever had a 6-7 week absurdly constant dry cough, that literally made her dry-heave half the day, made her vocal cords ache and continually go horse, and then these super strange hot-cold elevated temps.
There was no aching joints and major sinus congestion, just really weird ups and downs in energy, headaches, and feeling of weight on her chest, followed by the worst continual dry cough imaginable for what seemed like an eternity.
Tested negative for the flu and anything else they could test for. The doctors thought she had walking-pneumonia, but then decided that wasn't it. And finally they just gave her a shitload of steriods, some crazy high dosage of this respiratory inhaler shite called Breo (which is like inhaling chalk powder), and it still took her another 2-3 weeks to get past the cough.
And we're talking about someone who does competition Crossfit, is not only a nurse but a personal trainer, works out every freaking day and could run a marathon and barely break a sweat.
I had never seen anything like it. And she had this from end of November to mid-January.
I'm 110% certain it was CV19.
Also, half the nurses she works with and Kennestone had the EXACT same thing during the same period. Like 10-12 people she had immediate contact with.
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 3/26/20 at 9:32 pm to WoodstockDawg
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I hope you are right.
Don't worry about that.
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it means there is some righteous heavy lifting happening on the front lines of this mess.
Vague. Not sure what you mean. Front lines I think of people getting laid off, furloughed, can't pay their bills. Those people are doing some heavy lifting indeed. Alot of those people weren't in great places in the first place, and something like this is devastating to them, and the larger economy as a whole because they are the doers, not the talk-abouters.
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The least I can do is stay out of their damned way.
I agree. We all need to stay out of the way. Sometimes getting out of the way means hitting the gas pedal. It doesn't always mean brakes. I escaped a deadly accident on 85 many years ago when a van got pit-maneuvered into my lane and I accelerated to get past it, and watched into my rear view everyone piling up behind it after it hit the median wall. If I had hit the brakes, I would have been the one getting piled into.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 9:57 pm to FinleyStreet
Meanwhile,Sweden is open for business and taking a completely
different approach than almost any European country.
Gonna be interesting to see how they come out of this.
different approach than almost any European country.
Gonna be interesting to see how they come out of this.
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The strategy in Sweden is to focus on social distancing among the known risk groups, like the elderly. We try to use evidence-based measurements,” said Emma Frans, doctor in epidemiology at Karolinska Institute.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:01 pm to BeefDawg
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I know damn well it went through my house in Dec-Jan. My wife tested negative for flu, but had every flu symptom you could think of, and then coughed non-stop for 6 straight weeks all day every day. Both my daughters had the same thing for about 3 weeks. I had it for about a week. The ridiculous unusual dry cough and on/off minor fevers for weeks is the tell-tale sign.
And countless people are coming out saying they had the exact same unusual shite go through their house somewhere between Sept. and Jan., too.
I'm interested in taking the antibody test at some point once the current chaos is over and done with for the same reasons. I was sicker than I think I've ever been the week of Thanksgiving. Tested negative for Flu and just about everything else but did develop pneumonia. They tried to tell me that it was complications from a bad ear infection (which I did also have) but just didn't make sense. High fevers, consistent cough, but no nasal congestion. It went through the house but my wife had a fairly minimal bout and my daughter cleared up pretty quickly.
It's certainly possible it was something else, but the similarities make me curious at least.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:08 pm to RD Dawg
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We try to use evidence-based measurements
What a concept
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:49 pm to Crowknowsbest
LINK
Trump team failed to follow NSC’s pandemic playbook
The 69-page document, finished in 2016, provided a step by step list of priorities – which were then ignored by the administration.
Trump team failed to follow NSC’s pandemic playbook
The 69-page document, finished in 2016, provided a step by step list of priorities – which were then ignored by the administration.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:52 pm to molardog1
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aybe listen to this guy?
Here he is to tell you how much an idiot you are:
LINK
Ms. C nailed it in response: Welcome to American journalism (in a nutshell). Fuelled by intentional misunderstanding (looking at you, IT, and little rig brain) and little research.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:55 pm to djsdawg
A 69 page document!
He failed to abide by it?
This is bigger than we thought....
He failed to abide by it?
This is bigger than we thought....
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:57 pm to BeefDawg
Because I'm a wealth manager/stock broker and partner at a brokerage firm
Of course, your greedy clueless arse talked to a bunch of greedy idiots who have no clue about public health, and its all fake news, all across the world. Only a loon buys into your conspiracy theory.
Its no wonder you dont GAS about health of people and only about the stocks and 401ks. Your hero trump fricked up with his February hoax party, and you are so blind you cant even see that.
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I've done about two dozen conference calls with many of the top financial analysts in this business, and every one of them has said this is beyond overblown and sensationalized.
Of course, your greedy clueless arse talked to a bunch of greedy idiots who have no clue about public health, and its all fake news, all across the world. Only a loon buys into your conspiracy theory.
Its no wonder you dont GAS about health of people and only about the stocks and 401ks. Your hero trump fricked up with his February hoax party, and you are so blind you cant even see that.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:00 pm to djsdawg
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Here he is to tell you how much an idiot you are:
LINK
Ms. C nailed it in response: Welcome to American journalism (in a nutshell). Fuelled by intentional misunderstanding (looking at you, IT, and little rig brain) and little research.
There is literally zero substance in the twitter link you posted. Zero.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:00 pm to deeprig9
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A 69 page document!
He failed to abide by it?
This is bigger than we thought....
Yep, turns out pandemic control is a major issue. Its not as easy as wishing it away via miracle: "It's going to disappear. One day it's like a miracle, it will disappear,"Trump said a month ago. I bet you believed him, didn't you with your little rig brain?
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