re: OT: Corona Panic 2020

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You’re not going to tell me about H1N1 being worse next, are you? Because if you look at the history of cases for that and how they escalated, comparing where it was in the first 90 or so days to where this is......this is worse.

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Really?

H1N1 had its first confirmed case on April 11, 2009. By mid-June, there were an estimated 1M cases...in the US.

First confirmed case in the US of COVID-19 was 54 days ago. There are now 3,600 cases (this number includes all presumptive cases too). Don't come in here spouting more bullshite. Wanna say this has the potential to be more deadly cause the media says so, fine, but facts are facts and H1N1 spread much faster early on

Also, we do not have near enough data yet to discuss a true mortality rate for this thing. Honestly, would love for you all to say exactly whats okay vs not. Obviously, you are all good with 50,000 people dying from the seasonal flu, because its only a 0.1% mortality rate.
Would you be okay with a 1% mortality rate if only 5M people contracted it? Would you want stuff shut down then? Where is your line?

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This is projected to infect 40-70% of all Americans, which is ~120-225 million people.

CDC estimates that 39-80 million people were ultimately infected with H1N1 in 2009.

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That has nothing to do with my point. Dude was saying that H1N1 didn't spread near as fast as this in the first 90 days.....as I stated, in 54 days Coronavirus went from 1 person to 3,600ish (includes presumed cases) and 60 days, H1N1 went from 1 person to 1M people....including 47% of those 5-12 years in age

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You’re not going to tell me about H1N1 being worse next, are you? Because if you look at the history of cases for that and how they escalated, comparing where it was in the first 90 or so days to where this is......this is worse.

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Not really.We know the 1st known cases of H1N1 in the US were around the beginning of April of 2009
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The first two laboratory-confirmed cases of what is now known as the 2009 pandemic influenza A (H1N1) virus (H1N1pdm09) were reported in April 17, 2009

We also know by June we had 27,717 confirmed cases by late June

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The total number of confirmed cases varied from 27,717 (Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) confirmed and probable cases) and 25,453 (total of all state confirmed cases) as of June 26, 2009.[122]

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And a estimated million cases

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On June 25, the CDC released information revealing that there were more than likely over one million (1,000,000) cases of the disease in the US, most of which had not been reported or diagnosed

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I don't have deaths but we do know H1N1 probably has a lower death rate

We know the 1st CV-19 confirmed case was Jan 19 and now we're almost 2 months in and confirmed cases are 3,602 is deaths are 70
as of today.

So we're approximately off by 2 weeks give or take and if we prorate the numbers H1N1 has about a 6X higher infection rate.

I do think the rates will get higher for CV-19 after 3 months just because testing will be ramped up and FAR more healthy people will get tested.

As of right now I don't think you can say one is "far more" dangerous than the other.

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Well I've interacted with two people who have interacted with Covid19 folks. RIP me.

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Sounds like the perfect time to post nudes if you ask me

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I know there are a lot of sites for this. But here is my favorite just to track the numbers:

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That is the same one that almost everyone is using from CSSE at Johns Hopkins.

It is interesting to see that China still sitting at ~81,000 confirmed cases and their recovered are catching up very, very quickly. The mortality rate is dropping rapidly too, as more and more people are being tested.

The cruise ship is an interesting case study too. 3700 passengers (everyone was tested), many over 60 years of age, 697 confirmed cases with 325 already recovered and at this time only 7 deaths. That is a vessel with very confined spaces and people bunched together, eating buffets, touching railings and elevators all day with recycled air.

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It is interesting to see that China still sitting at ~81,000 confirmed cases and their recovered are catching up very, very quickly. The mortality rate is dropping rapidly too, as more and more people are being tested.

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China's numbers of FOS. Our big guys in the gov think up to 1 million of their citizens have died during this, but its impossible to know for sure.

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According to who? Some guy you heard talking on CNN?

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Data are from the World Health Organization, supplemented by country data.

hmmm...got a link?

This article from 4 days ago shows USA having more ICU beds (where most COVID patients would need to be) per capita than anyone else in the world..

forbes

I'm not sure of your point.

Germany is currently at 7 times the sickness rate per 100,000 than the US and we have more critical care beds than they do. That graph makes Germany look like a paradise.

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Forbes is using old data

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Has the US population boomed since their data? Or are we in the business of closing emergency rooms here at an alarming rate