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re: OT: Corona Panic 2020
Posted on 4/24/20 at 2:27 pm to HTDawg
Posted on 4/24/20 at 2:27 pm to HTDawg
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Might be the only time in his life where he had a clue, even if it was by accident.
He's no genius but you might not be giving him enough credit here. He definitely knew the implications when he made his famous "shoot someone" comment. He also said during his campaign, "I love the low information voters."
I think he's more sociopathic than stupid, honestly. Though I definitely can understand why Rex Tillerson called him a moron.
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 2:33 pm to Lucius Clay
You could be right, but here's the thing. Where did he get this idiotic idea? Likely from someone who wrote to him promoting it.
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Posted on 4/24/20 at 2:43 pm to HTDawg
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Is there nothing this man can say or do that some of you won't defend?
Answer to your rhetorical question: For some of them, no.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 3:23 pm to deeprig9
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:25 pm to Whiznot
That pic sums it up well
Posted on 4/24/20 at 4:28 pm to DubyaDee40
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You're basically acting as Trump's nanny.
Dawgslife knows his role.
Posted on 4/24/20 at 5:56 pm to HTDawg
An entire page of libs jerking each other off about how much they hate Trump 
Posted on 4/24/20 at 6:20 pm to DawgCountry
This thread is utter garbage but
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I just have to make one point. You can support someone and not like them personally or wish they would just shut the duck up most of the time.
For a lot of people, it's about policies far more than anything else. Certainly far more than what is said at a podium or on Twitter.
Lastly, if you accept as fact most politicians are inherently corrupt or at a minimum work only to increase their power or longevity, why would you voluntarily give them more power. That's it for me. They're all shite and you're a fool if you support policies that give them more power and by default take power from you.
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I just have to make one point. You can support someone and not like them personally or wish they would just shut the duck up most of the time.
For a lot of people, it's about policies far more than anything else. Certainly far more than what is said at a podium or on Twitter.
Lastly, if you accept as fact most politicians are inherently corrupt or at a minimum work only to increase their power or longevity, why would you voluntarily give them more power. That's it for me. They're all shite and you're a fool if you support policies that give them more power and by default take power from you.
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 9:43 am
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:35 am to DubyaDee40
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You're not quoting him directly though. If you quote what he said directly, it sounds far more incoherent. You're basically acting as Trump's nanny.
Thsi is not a direct quote?
"And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or, or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets on the lungs and it does a tremendous number, so it will be interesting to check that. So that you're going to have to use medical doctors. But it sounds, it sounds interesting to me. So we'll see. I admit that I missed closing it with quotation marks...but yes, it is a direct quote. And did you miss thta after that a reporter asked a doctor to clarify it? So....if you can pull factual information from that I don't know what to tell you.
quote:And I have said that it was probably a misstep. Personally, I think he should leave the technical details to the doctors. I get it. He wants to jump in and show he is in charge, that he cares and wants to help. Bit it is just better, imo, to leave that to the professionals.
I got what Trump was trying to say, and to a point it made sense. If me and you were sitting down over a plate of BBQ talking about this, I'd understand completely. But that's not the type of statement a leader should be making.
That said, if he did that the left would be screaming that he needs to be a leader, and the people want to hear it straight from the President. They already have said that in some issues....so....
quote:I mean, he said the doctors were working on the things he mentioned, so I'm not sure what action plans you mean. He talks about social distancing, opening up the economy and doing that in stages(He outlined the stages)...There really isn't a whole lot more.
I want to hear action plans.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:49 am to Lucius Clay
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When style includes incessant false and misleading statements and narcissistic personality, yes. Style can severely affect results.
And if you ask the right, they would say the same about Obama. I mean, it depends on if it is "your guy" in the Presidency how you perceive him. Yes, I think Trump has some narcissism in him. A lot, actually. But I also thought Obama did, too. Shoot, you almost have to have it to rise to that level of success in any type of business, sports or entertainment.
Are you saying you would prefer to have a rotten economy and world standing under a humble President rather than have a booming economy and powerful stance in the world under a bombastic President?
People get too hung up on perceptions and not enough focus on results. Am I a fan of Trumps personality? Nope. Am I a fan of his results? Yes.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:55 am to Lucius Clay
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He's no genius but you might not be giving him enough credit here. He definitely knew the implications when he made his famous "shoot someone" comment. He also said during his campaign, "I love the low information voters."
I am always amazed at how people take some of his comments so seriously. I mean....when I was in high school playing football we had some great years. I jokingly said "We could burn down the bank and half the town would come out to watch it burn."
That didn't mean I wanted to burn down the bank, or that I would burn it down." It was an illustration to show that the town absolutely loved the football team.
Maybe I am wrong and should take things more literally. I used to. I learned a valuable lesson when I was told
"If you like your doctor you can keep him. If you like your insurance you can keep it." Now, I have a different doctor and a different (worse and more expensive) insurance plan.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 6:58 am to djsdawg
Crap dude. You're still here? I thought you were still in the woodshed taking beatings.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 7:56 am to Whiznot
The entire universe is laughing at the US, but I peek at this thread and people are still twisting themselves into painful knots to defend this clusterfrick of an administration.
More people are dying. The economy is tanking worse. The country is closed without a plan to open safely. All because of the response of the federal government.
But my political side looking good is still the most important thing. . .
More people are dying. The economy is tanking worse. The country is closed without a plan to open safely. All because of the response of the federal government.
But my political side looking good is still the most important thing. . .
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 9:07 am
Posted on 4/25/20 at 8:54 am to DawgsLife
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People get too hung up on perceptions and not enough focus on results. Am I a fan of Trumps personality? Nope. Am I a fan of his results? Yes.
Pretty much my perspective.
Frankly, I don't like Trump's personality but Trump is a smart businessman and his result's have been excellent; best economy in the history of the U.S.
I'm ashamed to admit that I voted for loser Romney in the last 2 national Republican primaries.
And this candid perspective is one thing that separates discerning Republicans from all in Democrats.
In the eyes of Dems, Obama could do not wrong and he had a sweetheart deal with the MSM.
Flashforward, and Trump is dealing with Never-Trumpers, unjustified impeachment in the hateful Democrat controlled House of Representatives and ongoing negative news media coverage from day 1 of this administration.
But what will irk liberal Democrats to know end, that in spite of everything they have done to undermine President Trump, I believe most Americans will realize that he is our best path to prosperity as they did in 2016.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 10:37 am to chillmonster
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The entire universe is laughing at the US, but I peek at this thread and people are still twisting themselves into painful knots to defend this clusterfrick of an administration.
I guess I will never understand why so many on the left crave the rest of the worlds approval. It amazes me.
Do you not realize that they want what we have? Our economy? They will tie us in knots to bring us down to their level, yet you think we must be loved by the world. When you get a few years on you, you will realize that scrambling around to gain their approval is not smart.
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More people are dying.
Crap dude. Seriously? Are you under the impression that if Hillary or Joe Biden were in office people wouldn't still be dying? Surely....SURELY you are smarter than that. You really believe that the whole world is going through this, but if Hillary Clinton or Joe Biden were in office we would not be going through this.
Crap. Hillary was Secretary of State and stood by while an embassy was overrun and soldiers killed, yet you think she is the answer.
quote:I thought so,. never had a doubt in my mind.
But my political side looking good is still the most important thing. . .
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 12:10 pm
Posted on 4/25/20 at 1:08 pm to DawgsLife
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DawgsLife
Looks Painful
Posted on 4/25/20 at 1:27 pm to GurleyGirl
There seem to be some short memories or lack of knowledge about the economy. Reading some of these posts, one would think that the economy was atrocious under Obama and then Trump came in and - poof - it took off.
A reality flash: Obama was elected during the "Great Recession," which had begun under Bush Jr. The economy - including the stock market - began it's record setting run under Obama.
Feel free to look at charts at Forbes. Stock market trends - Obama - TrumpAs they note, "The S&P 500 has risen 38% under Trump since his election, while under Obama it rose 36% [and 103% from the low point in March 2009]."
Personally, I think that Presidents get WAY too much credit (or blame) for the economy, because things run in cycles and disruptive events occur that are beyond their control.
If Trump's only selling point is that the stock market has continued to rise while he's been in office, makes you wonder...is there anything ELSE that you all care about? Would a good stock market basically have you overlook anything?
A reality flash: Obama was elected during the "Great Recession," which had begun under Bush Jr. The economy - including the stock market - began it's record setting run under Obama.
Feel free to look at charts at Forbes. Stock market trends - Obama - TrumpAs they note, "The S&P 500 has risen 38% under Trump since his election, while under Obama it rose 36% [and 103% from the low point in March 2009]."
Personally, I think that Presidents get WAY too much credit (or blame) for the economy, because things run in cycles and disruptive events occur that are beyond their control.
If Trump's only selling point is that the stock market has continued to rise while he's been in office, makes you wonder...is there anything ELSE that you all care about? Would a good stock market basically have you overlook anything?
This post was edited on 4/25/20 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 4/25/20 at 1:38 pm to DawgsLife
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Maybe I am wrong and should take things more literally.
Nice straw man. Trump wasn't literally meaning that he intended to shoot someone - or even that if he did, it would literally be overlooked by all of his followers. I don't take it literally and either did he.
It was hyperbole expressing an underlying truth: That he KNOWS he can do ALMOST anything and will get a pass from his ardent supporters. And we've seen that again and again. His "base" will rationalize, deny, or spin things that other Presidents from either party in the past would have been crucified over.
Why? Well...devotion to whatever he was selling...a return to the America of lore? Fighting back against a multicultural society? Nationalism? Wanting to pay less taxes? Hatred of so-called "elitists"? I don't know...whatever it is that his most devoted followers are into!
Posted on 4/25/20 at 1:49 pm to GurleyGirl
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I believe most Americans will realize that he is our best path to prosperity as they did in 2016.
Well, technically, most Americans didn't vote for Trump in 2016. He lost the popular vote, with 80,000 votes in a couple of key states putting him in. But that aside, Democratic party machinery was committed to (or forced to, by power of the Clinton establishment) to put forth a horrendous candidate for the times...one who was about as personally unlikable as Trump.
Posted on 4/25/20 at 2:18 pm to Lucius Clay
The DNC wanted Clinton so badly, they had to ask Biden not to run in 2016.
Now because of the promises made to Biden 4 years ago... they are playing dirty handed to give him the nomination. DNC is the definition of swamp. I actually feel bad for Biden that he got jumped for Herstory.
Now because of the promises made to Biden 4 years ago... they are playing dirty handed to give him the nomination. DNC is the definition of swamp. I actually feel bad for Biden that he got jumped for Herstory.
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