re: OT: Corona Panic 2020

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Did he word it poorly for the stupid people, probably, but I have no problem with it.

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Later in the same conference Trump says, "I don't know, I'm not a doctor"

Maybe we should start listening to him guys. He just said he's not a doctor.

But he then goes on to say that, "a lot of people have been talking about summer...the fake news didn't like that I said maybe heat and light kill the virus...I would like for you (Bill Bryan) to speak with the medical doctors and see if there's anyway to apply heat and light to find a cure...I think it's a great thing to look at. "

I mean, just look at the countries where it's currently summer. Brazil for example...

Confirmed
49,990

Recovered
26,573

Deaths
3,330

Then later in the conference he goes off on fake news...

I personally don't believe anyone in this government has a clue on how to respond to this pandemic.

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I mean, just look at the countries where it's currently summer. Brazil for example...

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I was wondering about that too.

The doctor that was up there said just because it's hot won't kill it very fast, it's more about the UV. I'm pretty sure that was on his slide. He said virus on the surface in sunlight dies pretty quick, but on the underside of anything, like a handrail or ladder on a playground, that isn't in direct sunlight, the virus lives many hours.

So, it can still spread in summer, just not as fast. and being aware of, and society being aware, of the UV factor, I think, helps slow it down.


I was also watching the news conference live. If you watch it, I got the impression the awkward moment started when he was trying to poorly make a self-depricating joke about his orangeness, to tie it back to the uv light thing the guy had just mentioned, then tried to get out of it mid-joke, and ended up looking even dumber. Definitely a bad moment. But at no point did I ever get the impression he was suggesting people inject bleach.

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WTF, I mean really WTF.

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What? Should he have said it? probably not.

But did you see or understand where he said nothing should be done on your own, but to do anything under a doctor's care?

He continued: "And then I see the disinfectant where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or, or almost a cleaning? Because you see it gets on the lungs and it does a tremendous number, so it will be interesting to check that. So that you're going to have to use medical doctors. But it sounds, it sounds interesting to me. So we'll see.

After Trump's initial comments, in which he did suggest there might be a way to "do something like that by injection inside or, or almost a cleaning" after changing the topic from light to disinfectants but made clear it was not a definitive recommendation and said "medical doctors" should be involved in any tests, a reporter asked Bryan to clarify what the president said.

I mean....sorry to put a damper on your "Gotcha!" moment, but you guys can't seem to control yourselves about taking stuff out of context.

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I want to hear action plans.

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This isn't directed at you.
But there is a large sector of the us population who don't care what plans come out of trump's mouth.

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If you actually review the actions of the administration, they show a ton of leadership as compared to other countries and even states.

Too many focus on the carnival barker and not enough on the business at hand.

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If he can't form a coherent plan, present it, and then defend it effectively. Maybe he's just not the guy for the job.

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Do you personally value rhetoric over results?

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but his style of politics are not making the country a better place right now.

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Do you personally value style over results?

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want to hear action plans.

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Like what specifically? Did you listened to DHS scientist and his preliminary conclusions? It was actually pretty informative and hopefully put an end to the idiotic "stay inside,stay alive" narrative.

It also reinforced what we've known for ages about sunlight,fresh air and the mitigation of the flu and other contagious
respitory illness. Sunlight,fresh air and virus mitigation.

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It also reinforced what we've known for ages about sunlight,fresh air and the mitigation of the flu and other contagious
respitory illness. Sunlight,fresh air and virus mitigation.

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I mean, sounds interesting. But consider the logistics too. I don't know how many people are currently in the hospital, but can you imagine wheeling 200 folks and their ventilators inside when a thunderstorm pops up? It's about cost at that point.

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Like what specifically? Did you listened to DHS scientist and his preliminary conclusions? It was actually pretty informative and hopefully put an end to the idiotic "stay inside,stay alive" narrative

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I don't think it's idiotic. It appears to have worked for a number of countries.

And are you talking about Bill Bryan where he says heat and humidity appear to slow down the virus? Sounds promising, but the humidity statement directly contradicts the link you posted, and I think we just need to look at Brazil. They've got a president who considered covid-19 a hoax, and Brazil is in a tropical climate. They're not exactly in good shape.

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Bill Bryan where he says heat and humidity appear to slow down the virus

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This should have been the big takeaway, along with UV light, from the press conference yesterday. Instead, it's all fake news about Trump telling people to inject bleach after he bumbled and brainfarted his way through a rambling sentence trying to say scientists are still working on utilizing this kind of research for treatments.


5 minutes later a reporter asked him to clarify, "Are you saying people should inject bleach" and Trump said 'No'.

But the headline from NBC circulating on facebook 30 minutes later was literally "Trump says people should inject bleach" which is absolutely fake. 100% fake.

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Do you personally value rhetoric over results?

Nope

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Do you personally value style over results?

Sometimes. I think it's the difference between a leader and a boss. One leads by example or helps you to be better. The other is there to give orders and expect things to happen.

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I'm with you.

But that other 40% of the population (the media especially) hated the style and rhetoric of the Bushes, McCain, and Romney. The point being that it wouldn't have to be Trump up there... this treatment and lack of "results and action awareness" would occur regardless of who the Republican president is.

I find it ironic that both the Clinton's and Obama's now love the style of George HW Bush. But the Clinton's and Obama's can no longer stand one another.

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He is obviously talking about something they are looking at doing to clean off the lungs, much like a disinfectant does on surfaces

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No he isn't. He's too stupid to understand metaphor. There wasn't a hint of irony or sarcasm when he looked at the doctors and talked about injecting light and disinfectants in the body. He was dead serious. The doctor's reaction showed she finally realized how stupid and dangerous he is.

Is there nothing this man can say or do that some of you won't defend? I guess he was right when he said he can shoot someone in the streets and not lose supporters. Might be the only time in his life where he had a clue, even if it was by accident.