re: OT: Corona Panic 2020

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We need sports back on tv.

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We need UGA playing Virginia on September 7 in front of a huge crowd...not an empty stadium.

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Let's see what legitimate source you've linked that story from????

"Those were the pictures from before everyone showed up."

Uh huh...yeah, that was the latest alt-right propaganda after National Park Service admitted to doctoring Trump's inauguration photos at White House request. I guess it was a bit too embarrassing for the Orange King to have a crowd one third of the size of the black man from Kenya.

NPS doctored Trump inauguration crowd photos

There have several analyses of the 2009 and 2017 inauguration crowd sizes at the same time. Trump loses BIGLY in those. Sorry but both pics were taken at 11 am.

Fact Checker sums it up:

Regardless, Trump and Spicer argued that the media misrepresented the size of the crowd at the inauguration, and we don’t find any evidence of that. To the contrary, it was Trump and Spicer who provided false information to feed a false narrative about crowd size.

The Facts on Crowd Size

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I took these screenshots myself while on CNN's wideangle camera which was streaming live during the event.





You are welcome to view the EXIF data on those pictures. You'll see they were taken as screen shots on a personal PC smack in the middle of the inauguration ceremony.

Are you so fricking stupid that you're going to try and tell us we don't see what we see in those pics?

They completely contradict your bullshite links with pictures showing a third the amount that was really there.

The Guardian and FactCheck.org are Leftwing propaganda fronts, and this is not only obvious, but you've actually helped prove it now. Good job.

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National Park Service admitted to doctoring Trump's inauguration photos at White House request.

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dude, that is a lie

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would immediately bring costs down by opening up more competition

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Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Carolina competing against Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts is not opening up more competition.

If you have a problem with the offerings in your state... ask 2 questions.

1) ask your department of insurance what concessions need to be made to add "x product or y coverage". The government regulates these within each state. And that is exactly what working with the government is like ("I want to do x" and the government response " I will give you x if you give y"

2) ask if your state has higher costs than the state you are comparing. Either the doctors and hospitals charge more (urban vs rural) or people are less healthy.

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Adding less healthy or more expensive coverage onto a lower cost state only increases the costs for the original state. Insurance premiums aren't created out of thin air. They are a pass through of costs.

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Two photos, same view, one taken at 11:04 am in 2009 and the other at 11:30 am in 2017. Hey...maybe a few hundred thousand more folks raced in for Trump by 11:30?

The bigger question was why it so important to Trump that he actually had the Park Service crop photos of his inauguration. I think we know the answer to that, though...

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You're just proving more and more that hack media like Vox (and the others that posted this false picture claiming it was taken at 11:04am) are lying Leftwing propaganda.

That picture clearly doesn't match this one, which again, I took myself about 2 minutes into Trump's speech.



You are such a hopeless little bitch, it's just sad how desperate you are to hate on Trump.

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Blue Cross Blue Shield of North Carolina competing against Blue Cross Blue Shield of Massachusetts is not opening up more competition.

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Actually he's half correct about the competition angle.

There's actually about 35 or so different BCBS ownership groups.

For example, Anthem owns a chapter of BCBS in California (Anthem Blue Cross-California), and they are in direct competition with another group called Blue Shield of California, but both of them are BCBS affiliates.

That said, the other layer to this would not just be opening up/expanding competition, but it would also be greatly expanding the sizes of insured pools (the number of healthy people to unhealthy people ratio widens drastically).

Not to mention, there's WAY more than just BCBS. United, Aetna, Cigna, Humana, Coventry, Kaiser, American Family, Delta, Fortis, Liberty, Principal... etc. etc.

There's like 50 of them, and then about a dozen of those are essentially franchised out to different ownership groups. And like I said, BCBS has about 35 of those by itself.

So we're talking probably 200 or so insurance companies competing against each other nationwide, rather than each state having maybe 5-10, if they're lucky.

Health pools and competition vastly expanded... that's like free-market doctrine 101. There's no way that would be bad.

4:42 AM.

Earlier I posted that I'd been diagnosed with acute bronchitis. Now I think it's likely that I have covid-19. I also think that I know how I will defeat it.

If I lie down to sleep I rapidly develop lung problems and tend to cough.

That is what happened Tuesday night. Before I got out of bed I wondered whether I would live through the night. I got up and went to the Phoebe emergency room. After getting up and about, my lungs cleared and I no longer coughed. At Phoebe the doctors did bloodwork, an EKG and a chest x-ray. All negative. I told the doctors that I've never run a fever and doubted covid exposure. I was given the bronchitis diagnosis, doxycycline and an inhaler.

During the day on Wednesday I felt normal. In bed that night I had slight breathing problems along with a cough.

All day Thursday I felt completely normal. I got in bed after midnight and breathing became a problem. I got up at 2AM and could feel that I wasn't okay. I retired here to my living room recliner and my lungs started to clear but I started having chills. I'm wrapped in a quilt. My lungs are clear and I've no cough. I've been watching recorded TV and surfing the web since 2AM.

To hell with lying down and suffering breathing problems. I can sleep in my recliner and breathe easily no problem. I see all these intubated ICU patients flat on their backs and dying after they walked into the hospital. I believe that everyone of them should be in a propped up position.

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Kind of like the size of his paltry inauguration crowd

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That has been proven false, but I am not surprised you are still pushing this narrative.
That said, I don't think anybody should doubt that Obama's was bigger than Trump's. He was the first African-American President. It was a historical snapshot in time. I would expect a much higher number.

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his taxes not being releasable because they're still "under audit" four years later.

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No President is required to release their taxes. besides....didn't Maddow have a big find and unveiling on her show? Turned out to be another nothingburger.

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Or that Article II of the Constitution "allows me to do whatever I want."

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Wow...that doesn't particularly look good...when taken out of context....but when in context:
In a June interview with ABC News, Trump said, "Article 2 allows me to do whatever I want. Article 2 would have allowed me to fire [Mueller]."

OH! He was saying it allowed him to fire Mueller if he wanted to. Are you saying he did not? or are you just taking words out of context to make him look bad?

You are going to stroke out if you keep this up.

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You guys are rich. If the death rates go up it is Trumps fault. If the death rates remain low it is because the Governors took action.

Nothing like having your cake and eating it too, amiright?

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Welcome to the thread. They have been spewing this since the beginning. It's why I have asked for their thresholds, their predictions and got nothing.....EXCEPT, Whiznutjob said it would still be greater than 1M Americans dead

BTW, you missed a couple of outs. They can just blame it on the statistics too. You see, "i was just going by what all the scientists predicted at the time from the data they understood." Yet, forget that Dr Doom Fauci actually said on February 24th that it was not a big deal for the US yet. Same day Pelosi was out dancing around Chinatown asking everyone to come out and party there...But she did that because Trump said it was no big deal, not the scientists, even though she does and says the opposite of Trump on EVERYTHING, except this one time

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Crap dude...he said, "might", "could" "some think" "Many believe"

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Febuary 10: “Looks like by April, you know, in theory, when it gets a little warmer, it miraculously goes away."

Februay 26: “We’re going down, not up. We’re going very substantially down, not up.”

Feburary 27: “It’s going to disappear. One day — it’s like a miracle — it will disappear.”

“When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done."