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re: OT: Corona Panic 2020
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:15 pm to IT_Dawg
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:15 pm to IT_Dawg
quote:To be fair hospitals are actually struggling right now due to elimination of elective procedures and there’s a lot of staff that aren’t involved with care of ER/inpatients/ICU patients that have zero work to do and are getting furloughed. Not saying whether hospitals are stressed or not from a personnel standpoint just that this isn’t a way to judge it
Furloughs are happening at all eight hospital systems
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Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:24 pm to TMDawg
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To be fair hospitals are actually struggling right now due to elimination of elective procedures and there’s a lot of staff that aren’t involved with care of ER/inpatients/ICU patients that have zero work to do and are getting furloughed
You just proved the point we’ve been making for 7 weeks. It was going to be so bad, every healthcare personnel would be called out of retirement, graduating nurses and doctors early to treat this....hospitals would be over run and couldn’t support this at all.
Meanwhile, a lot of the federal efforts have gone to waste. They are packing up makeshift hospitals across the country. The ship that was so desperately needed in NYC has 17 patients and the tent hospital now has zero.
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that this isn’t a way to judge it
How would you judge it? We were suppose to be out of all this and people dying. Whiznut just said “bodies piling up.” We have lies from the media on the care of healthcare workers. Lies on the hospital conditions. Meanwhile people are making masks at home to help and empty hospitals and testing sites are in full PPE gear with no gloves dancing around the halls and making a choreographed dances....
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 7:25 pm
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:36 pm to IT_Dawg
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Well, this cannot be correct based on the data we have ....Either the transmit rate is 100x lower, or the mortality rate is closer in line....and not sure what your etc is here.
I believe the transmit rate is a little over twice as high and the death rate appears to be significantly higher. Even if you want to argue it’s just 1% (which seems low as of now).
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:42 pm to DawgsLife
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For that matter nobody called for his impeachment at all.
Instead, some people just insisted he was born in Kenya...
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:45 pm to Dawgsontop34
Because he was..
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:49 pm to deeprig9
Cmon Rig don’t press conspiracy theories...let’s deal in facts.
Like him being raised and mentored by revolutionary radicals, domestic terrorists and communists. At least this can be proven.
Like him being raised and mentored by revolutionary radicals, domestic terrorists and communists. At least this can be proven.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:56 pm to SquatchDawg
Or his birth certificate that said his dad was born in Kenya before Kenya existed (it was called British East Africa at that point in time) and also listed the baby's race as "African " when the accepted terminology of the time period was "negro". So yeah that birth certificate was bullshite. Facts, not conspiracy.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 7:59 pm to SquatchDawg
Obama's mother worked for USAID. She received grants from the Ford Foundation. Barack's student loans were paid by Business International Corporation who he worked for after college. All three of those organizations have deep ties to the CIA. There is a scandal there but not what you guys seem to think.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 8:11 pm to Whiznot
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USAID
Ah yes...our taxpayer funded international extortion operation.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:28 pm to Whiznot
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Obama's mother worked for USAID. She received grants from the Ford Foundation. Barack's student loans were paid by Business International Corporation who he worked for after college. All three of those organizations have deep ties to the CIA. There is a scandal there but not what you guys seem to think.
And "I" am the wackjob.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:30 pm to IT_Dawg
quote:You 100% don’t have a clue what I’m talking about. Hospitals are furloughing people that no longer are helpful to what they’re currently dealing with. There are plenty of people employed by the hospital systems in areas that aren’t allowed to function right now and it’s not like you can say ‘hey you were a scrub tech and now you’re an ICU nurse.’ Them being furloughed has zero to do with whether hospitals have a high covid volume it has to do with the mandatory shut down on elective/non-emergent procedures. But go ahead, continue to educate me.
You just proved the point we’ve been making for 7 weeks. It was going to be so bad, every healthcare personnel would be called out of retirement, graduating nurses and doctors early to treat this....hospitals would be over run and couldn’t support this at all.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:43 pm to TMDawg
You are both right.
IT Dawg is pointing out the media bullshite "hospitals overwhelmed"
TM Dawg is pointing out that the majority of a hospital isn't urgent care or intensive care.
TM, are ICU's overwhelmed right now, in your personal experience? I'm not asking if you heard from colleagues about it, is the ICU in your local hospital overwhelmed?
Are ICU and Emergency Room staff all wearing hand-made pinterest masks donated by local basic-bitches sharing their efforts on Facebook?
I want to know the truth.
IT Dawg is pointing out the media bullshite "hospitals overwhelmed"
TM Dawg is pointing out that the majority of a hospital isn't urgent care or intensive care.
TM, are ICU's overwhelmed right now, in your personal experience? I'm not asking if you heard from colleagues about it, is the ICU in your local hospital overwhelmed?
Are ICU and Emergency Room staff all wearing hand-made pinterest masks donated by local basic-bitches sharing their efforts on Facebook?
I want to know the truth.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:46 pm to TMDawg
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You 100% don’t have a clue what I’m talking about. Hospitals are furloughing people that no longer are helpful to what they’re currently dealing with. There are plenty of people employed by the hospital systems in areas that aren’t allowed to function right now and it’s not like you can say ‘hey you were a scrub tech and now you’re an ICU nurse.’ Them being furloughed has zero to do with whether hospitals have a high covid volume it has to do with the mandatory shut down on elective/non-emergent procedures. But go ahead, continue to educate me
What are you talking about. It was stated in the media and in here that hospitals would be overrun. That our hospitals beds were at 68% before this happened and that’s why we need to flatten the curve and even still it would be overrun a bit. And you are damn right, if it was that bad, we 100% would use any and all hospital personnel to help with this.
So you agree, this was completely overhyped and that hospitals are not and were not in jeopardy of being overrun and unable to support this influx due to the China virus......
Once again, thank you for proving my points over and over
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:52 pm to IT_Dawg
quote:That’s not how it works. Hospitals are hemorrhaging money on the services they actually make money on hence they are furloughing people that are part of some of those services. It’s pretty clear you’ve never been involved in healthcare in any meaningful way if you think it’s just a plug and play when it comes to this.
And you are damn right, if it was that bad, we 100% would use any and all hospital personnel to help with this.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:56 pm to retooc
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But Hillary's supporters are not the Bible thumpers
That wasnt Hillary at those black churches?
The Clinton's had a long history of being against gay marriage. Maybe not as a matter of principle but as a matter of the Christian vote.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:56 pm to TMDawg
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That’s not how it works. Hospitals are hemorrhaging money on the services they actually make money on hence they are furloughing people that are part of some of those services. It’s pretty clear you’ve never been involved in healthcare in any meaningful way if you think it’s just a plug and play when it comes to this.
The plug and play would be a result of a catastrophic situation where literally 1000 people a day show up coughing up blood. Yes, you would do your best to plug and play with non-specialiazed. What IT Dawg is saying is it clearly hasn't come to that, therefore the bullshite we've had crammed down our throats by media three weeks ago is indeed bullshite.
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 4/10/20 at 9:56 pm to Dawgsontop34
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I believe the transmit rate is a little over twice as high
That would mean 100M people have gotten this......
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Even if you want to argue it’s just 1%
Which it wouldn’t be if transmit rate was 2x the flu.....
Read the study they did out of a region in Germany. Shows the transmit rate to be much lower and the death rate to be around .8%
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:04 pm to deeprig9
quote:And I’ve never argued it’s at that point or will come to that point because it won’t. My sole point was that hospitals furloughing people has zero to do with that.
What IT Dawg is saying is it clearly hasn't come to that, therefore the bullshite we've had crammed down our throats by media three weeks ago is indeed bullshite.
Pretty sure all 3 of us think the media has painted the absolute worst case scenario that won’t happen. I think the disease is worse than a lot on here think but I also don’t think it’s worth shutting the economy down for a prolonged period over.
This post was edited on 4/10/20 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:11 pm to TMDawg
So can we stop fighting? I like the two of you so much, and it hurts me to see you two fighting.
Posted on 4/10/20 at 10:17 pm to deeprig9
we will all be joking and having fun when Trump gets re-elected and we get to see to see the real melts begin
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