re: OT - blue lives murder

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But the protested peacefully, as a whole.

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Did they riot and burn things down? No. Did they break the law and then resist arrest? Absolutely. I’m curious what exactly do you consider “peaceful protests”? Most of the folks on this board, including you, condemn the marches of these past few months, condemn the professional athlete protests, and condemn UGA’s football team protests. So I’m really curious if those aren’t peaceful, what is?

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Can you give me an example of an unjust law

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For starters, the Westfall Act. It makes it so that a federal law enforcement officer cannot be sued in his personal capacity for tortious conduct committed while on duty. Many states have similar laws. As I have mentioned before, one of the purposes of prosecuting a legal suit, whether criminal or civil, is to deter bad actors. If bad cops know that they will never lose a penny due to so-called “qualified immunity”, they aren’t going to cease their bad behavior.

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What group s being persecuted?

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Which makes me realize I omitted something. It’s not just the legislature, it’s the equal - or unequal - enforcement of those laws by police departments and district attorney’s offices. First time drug offenders are overwhelmingly more likely to be jailed if they are a racial minority than if they are white.

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Are you aware of anybody with power that is willing to give it up?

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No, but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t have to. One of the hallmarks of American capitalism is upward social mobility. What we have seen over the past 50 years is an unprecedented consolidation of power in the hands of a very, very few. If we keep on that track, we are going to look like Europe. Labeling countries like France, Germany, and the UK as “socialist” is misleading. Yes they are socialist in the sense that 99% of people get stuff for free, but it’s the ruling class who wants to give them stuff for free, because the ruling class realizes that if they don’t pacify the rest of society with handouts, those people will rebel and take away their wealth that their families accumulated over centuries. In Europe, it is literally impossible to go from “rags to riches” because if you don’t belong to one of these families, you will be stopped from doing so. That’s the way this country is headed unless their is meaningful reform to the estate tax. I don’t care if someone like Elon Musk or Bill Gates is a billionaire. That doesn’t bother me, nor does it bother most people on the left. There is a reason Bernie Sanders got his arse kicked by Joe Biden. Most Democrats don’t believe in his version of socialism. But what worries me is if the ultra-rich can pass their wealth on to their children, or their children’s children, who might never work a day in their life, they will be able to prevent everyone else’s children from reaching for the stars. Which is great for those people, sure. But it’s bad for America, because without an incentive for most of us to work hard and innovate, the country will fall behind.

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What is sad is groups like BLM who are admitted Marxists, and Antifa who want to overturn our entire government is coopting people like you.

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I don’t know about all of BLM’s leadership’s views on all issues, I just know that I agree that black lives matter. Do you have any evidence that I support “Antifa”? Just because Tucker Carlson tells you that anyone who opposes Trump therefore supports “Antifa” doesn’t mean it’s true. If you want to have a honest debate, don’t make accusations without evidence.

Wall Street investment banking thieves received 11 trillion dollars in government handouts all the while screaming against socialism.

But but but it's not welfare, right? Right?

Weird how the identity politics didn't start until #OccupyWallStreet. Now Bank of America is funding #BLM.

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Um, you’re getting money from the government paid for by other people, so call it what you want. I’m just pointing out your outrageous hypocrisy.

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This is what your commie buddy GIMPMO said-

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And for dumbasses who claim unemployment is welfare or some kind of socialist, communist plot it is INSURANCE....just like auto insurance. You EARN it....your employer pays it but it is based on the employees industry experience and payroll. It comes out of your total compensation package...your employer is not reaching in their wallet to pay the unemployment insurance premiums....they reach into the employees pockets.

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Yall need to get your stories straight.

Wait he said Chick-fil-A was too salty??

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The police are victims of bad law that's not supported or respected by large segments of society. When I was a child in the 50s and early 60s the police in most cities were generally respected.

The job of a cop is much more dangerous than it used to be. The drug war and the proliferation of semi automatic weapons increased the danger. Many black people have learned to despise cops with good reason. A lot of violent white people feel the same way. When cops get ambushed many people of every race don't have much sympathy.

End the drug war because it's a war against a large segment of society. My anger grew exponentially after nothing was done when narcs murdered David Hooks in a Laurens County no-knock raid.

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BRAVO! Police are not only the victims of a bad law and idea they are also the victim of a populace who demands much of them but refuses to provide the tools they need to do that hard work.

Take a look at Bignicksouthfloridaaccountability. Wade past the silliness that it is and consider for a moment that this guy walks into police stations in south florida with a camera videotaping the public areas and within minutes he is surrounded by cops, double digits in number, ranging from rookies to high ranking, seasoned veterans, and no one knows anything at all about what to do and do not even know to call a superior officer. Most of the time about half of the cops present will not even provide their names and badge numbers despite it being department policy, indicated by about half doing so without reserve. All will have a different reason why the person needs to leave the station, all will have a different law that is being violated, all will therefore immediately violate the rights of the video taker and NONE will ever remind their brothers and sisters that they are doing so....either because they do not know any better or it is more important to protect one another than the rights of a citizen. It is not illegal to videotape in a public area yet it drives cops INSANE because they have not been given the tools necessary to do their job. If a camera scares them that badly imagine what facing a violent person with mental issues and a potential weapon does to them. Those videos are mostly silly behavior on the part of the person making the video but they do indicate a possible problem with the amount of knowledge a policeman has for the rights guaranteed to a citizen...

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Um, you’re getting money from the government paid for by other people, so call it what you want. I’m just pointing out your outrageous hypocrisy.




This is what your commie buddy GIMPMO said-

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And for dumbasses who claim unemployment is welfare or some kind of socialist, communist plot it is INSURANCE....just like auto insurance. You EARN it....your employer pays it but it is based on the employees industry experience and payroll. It comes out of your total compensation package...your employer is not reaching in their wallet to pay the unemployment insurance premiums....they reach into the employees pockets.


Yall need to get your stories straight.

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Apples and oranges my friend....cops are paid out of tax revenue and fines etc. Unemployment premiums are paid out of the earnings of employees....the cost of unemployment is directly attributable to the cost of having an employee and is therefore earned by the employee unless of course the employer is losing money in which case the employer will be out of the employering business soon.

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Also, the fact that the kid has autism is irrelevant to whether the actions of the officers were justified.

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Is it irrelevant whether or not the officers were asked to deal with an autistic person and were not properly trained in how to do so, even to the point of debating if they shouldn't call a superior officer and ask for direction, which was part of the conversation prior to interaction? This would be seen in any industry worth its salt as either a lack of proper training for the task at hand OR a chilled environment where questions from underlings to superiors is seen as a roadblock to efficiency. Or both. What this does not indicate is these officers had the tools they needed to perform properly and that is not their fault.