re: Let's get political!

If we targeted Civilians intentionally, every war since WW2 would be a cake walk..... We don't, war is hell, and the wrong people die sometime.

Meanwhile Iran is just sending missiles into civilian centers of nations who didn't attack them, you know, like terrorists.

Omani Foreign Minister Badr Albusaidi announced that Iran has agreed to a "zero stockpiling" deal to limit its nuclear program, with all enriched material removed or down-blended and subjected to full IAEA verification. This deal, mediated by Oman to avoid war, represents significant progress toward preventing Iran from building a bomb, with negotiations in their final stages.

Key Terms of the Proposed Deal
Zero Stockpiling: Iran has agreed to maintain zero stockpiling of enriched nuclear material.

Irreversible Conversion: All current enriched material will be down-blended and converted into irreversible fuel, ensuring it cannot be used for a weapon.

Full Inspection: The deal includes comprehensive inspection and verification by the IAEA.

Future Restrictions: The agreement aims to permanently ensure Iran cannot develop a nuclear bomb.

Negotiation Status: The mediator suggests the deal is "within reach" and aims to address the shortcomings of previous agreements.

From internet. This is what he turned down. Down after the fact, of course they were 2 weeks from a nuke. Bibi has said they have been two weeks from a nuke for 20 years.

Has North Korea used theirs? Those dudes are way more volatile. In fact, this sort of foreign policy encourages bad actors to get nukes. It's the only way to prevent the US from fricking with you. If Iran had built out nukes instead of signing the original Obama deal, they probably aren't getting bombed right now.

Give it time. 3.40 when I left this morning and 3.90 when I got back home...in Gwinnett.

What is your off ramp? My fear is the strait doesn't open without boots on the ground. Iran is not broke, they are still shipping out their oil. These drones they use are super cheap too and they are firing them off left and right.

Yes I care about the strait being down for 2 months and impacting the global economy and ergo me and my family. Again, there was no threat, the press secretary said herself that there was no threat to the US soil. It's a war of choice that the taxpayers and soldiers now get to pay for. Morrgage rates were at a 3 month low and now have shot back up to almost 7%. All this stuff doesn't just get fixed if the strait were to open.

The evidence that he thought it would be quick is the poor planning that has taken place. They were shocked Iran hit the Gulf states. Weren't prepared to deal with hormuz fall out....all in an election year. That's political suicide. If he knew it was going to be a dragged out conflict, he's the stupidest politician ever because he will be a lame duck president and his cabinet members will be in congressional hearings for two years.

Israel won't let this end anytime soon I fear. The gas strike today was another step on the escalation ladder.

It's not leftist to be anti war and America first. It fact the current president campaigned on that.

Al Jazeera is reporting the straight is already open for ships not affiliated with Israel or US.

Is Al Jazeera lying?

Worth a watch if you can get past ossoff. First 30 seconds is all you need

Intelligence community said no progress had been made to rebuild enrichment since bombing last year

So again what was the threat?

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Intelligence community said no progress had been made to rebuild enrichment since bombing last year

So again what was the threat?

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The fact they were massively building up their ballistic missile and anti-air defense programs. They were actively building those up to prevent another attack once they started rebuilding their program again. You want to let that regime create their own “iron dome” and then build up the program again?

We demolish their imminent capability of creating a nuke, they then build up defense so they could do it again under better protection. You don’t think it’s worth take that down now, opposed to us losing the capability to strategically strike it in the future?

You are thinking in 1-2 year terms, and with hatred of OMB, not 3-5 years down the line if we had let them continue.

I haven't read they were building up any missiles, can you provide a link?

Why did they offer such an aggressive nuclear deal if they wanted to build the program again?

No this is not worth squeeze at all...I don't see how anyone can think it is. Does the deficit and inflation and all that go out of the window as a conservative when it comes to war of choices?

The OMB stuff is funny cope. The guy literally ran on staying out of the middle East and has 100s of tweets confirming Iraq and Iran escalation but yes because he has done a 180, I'm OMB...very cultish

Links about adding 2500 missiles after the last 12 day “war”

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The S-400 upgrades are supposedly capable of downing our B-2s

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Anyway you slice this, the world is a lot safer, according to every President in the last 40 years, without the Iranian regime in charge.

We are taking care of business with no troops on the ground and minimal loss of life.

It’s very simple. Both transitions of presidency to Trump claimed that Iran was the number 1 threat to our assets and our allies. Not China. Not North Korea. Not Russia, but Iran

We hit them hard and fast and dismantled the regime. We will continue to do so until we can rely on the Iranians to take back their country.

So we attacked them for missiles they don't even have yet?

Good grief. And I don't blame them doing these deals...what country would sit there ideally and let Israel and America bomb your country. You will probably see more stories come out that Iran will try even harder to make Nukes...not surprising, we haven't given them another choice. If you want to prevent that at this point you have to invade which will cost thousands of American lives and who knows how much money

How is the world safer lol the war climbed the escalation ladder today. Israel bombed a natural gas plant and Iran bombed one in Qatar. Guess what going to happen to gas prices?

These gulf states will join the fighting soon. What happens when Russia or China supplies Iran with a weapon that kills a significant amount of Americans? In no way is this war good.

Iran is the biggest threat to Israel not America. Unfortunately Israel runs our country so here we are.