re: LC#7 - 2nd Fastest on the Team?

Just going to throw it out there. Chris Johnson has the fastest 40 time in NFL combine history and he runs about 22 mph top speed. That's exactly what LC was checked with on GPS.

Sure you've heard guys have hit 24 mph or faster on a treadmill, but that's not actually pulling all of your weight. Kind of cheating. True speed is checked by GPS or Laser while actually running on the field or track.

Did it look like Tennessee was faster on the field to you? Have you noticed that every team we've played has talked about how fast we are?


Oh and Roquan has said that when he injured his shoulder and couldn't play, that he ran with the DBs and WRs....said that is why he has been faster on the field. He also said that he came in about 5th place out of all those guys.

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You are really worked up about the track times.

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I'm just pointing out that it's extremely unlikely Carter is the 2nd fastest player on our team, simply based on math. If he has a faster top end than these guys with comfortably sub 11 second track speed, that means he must be an extremely slow starter, like 5+ second 40 times. If you really want to debate something like this, look at the numbers not anecdotes.

For example, take Mecole Hardman who ran a 10.64 100m as recently as a couple of years ago; he's one of several in that #2 range behind Stokes. Say Hardman has lost a bit and can only run 10.8 now. If Carter could run the last half of a 100 meter course at an average speed equal to Hardman (not an unreasonable proposition if he truly has a faster top end speed), then he'd run the first half around 0.7 seconds slower (probably more than that because I doubt he can run an 11.5 100m at his current weight). Since he's accelerating throughout the first half, most of that first half time differential is in the first 40 yards. So if Hardman runs a 4.40 40 yard dash, Carter will run the 40 in 5.1 (or more) seconds. If Carter averaged the last 50m faster than Hardman, his first half speed would be even slower relative to Mecole.

In case that confuses you, I'm not saying Lorenzo will run a 5.10 40 at the combine. I'm saying it's mathematically unlikely that he has a faster top end speed than Mecole (or Stokes, Simmons, Speed, etc.), even in pads. All of the anecdotes about Justin Scott Wesley or Chris Johnson, etc., don't change the simple mathematics of speed and distance.

Again.. track speeds have to do with quick starts from the blocks. It has to do with weather and conditions.

Edit to add: people run different on grass, on concrete, on rubber, indoors, and outdoors. Some athletes have surfaces that they perform better relative to their peers than other surfaces.

Do you disagree?

Agree to disagree.

A professional basketball player can beat a track athlete in suicides. The track start (years of great coaching and training for starts would be negated ). The basketball player would have better form on the start and turns (years of doing this 5 days a week).

It is all about shaving a little time off here and shaving a little time there. But on a football field, all of that shaving is gone. An athlete better coached and trained for those conditions will excel. Faster athletes do not have the best track times when poorly coached.