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re: Jake Fromm should never start another game at Georgia

Posted on 10/13/18 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 9:21 pm to
The bigger issue with that pic is why we’re not handing or dumping to Holyfield when they drop 7 back in coverage.
Posted by GeorgiaBoy
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Posted on 10/13/18 at 9:22 pm to
Still the shittiest poster on the board.
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
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14193 posts
Posted on 10/13/18 at 9:22 pm to
Godwin was covered when he was looking and only came open after Fromm turned to the other side of the field.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 10/13/18 at 9:24 pm to
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Still the shittiest poster on the board.


Yeah, I just won't be able to sleep tonight because some dipshit on the Rant I've never met thinks I'm a shitty poster.
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 10/13/18 at 9:25 pm to
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Godwin was covered when he was looking and only came open after Fromm turned to the other side of the field.


He never looked at him long enough to see if he would come open. That play was just a drop in the bucket of open guys Fromm missed. So it's not just that one play.
Posted by AlaCowboy
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
6945 posts
Posted on 10/13/18 at 9:36 pm to
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Because, pussy or not (he is) he's our most experienced QB and led us to the NC last season.


Had our top RBs last year been Swift, Holyfield, and Herrien, would Fromm have led us to the NC game last season? Because, with them he certainly doesn't look like it this season.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41675 posts
Posted on 10/13/18 at 9:45 pm to
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Nowhere have I said Smart should be fired. I haven't called for Chaney to be fired.
Perhaps not outright but you've been very critical of Smart not playing Fields. Aside from comments you've made regarding him needing to be raked across the coals, you also said "If Smart is that terrified, then he needs to find a new line of work", which indicates to me that you'd like to see him take another job so we could get a coach with balls in there.

That said, I wasn't saying you, specifically, were calling for Smart's or Chaney's head. There are several others who are doing that. You've been calling for Fromm's, though. All season long, in fact.

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All I have said is Fromm stunk today and we didn't even give Fields a shot to affect the game.
You're being awfully charitable towards yourself regarding your comments about Fromm

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Fields should have played a lot more not only today but all year. I never was calling for him to start, until now.
You've been apoplectic about Fromm playing over Fields all season. You are officially the anti-Fromm. You were that way prior to today's performance. As much as you think I'm being biased towards Fromm, you are being just as much if not more so against him. You write like those bandwagon fans who have no idea what they are seeing when they watch games and get all of their talking points from the color commentators talking out of their rear ends during the televised game. I bet you and Beth Mowins could have some really deep conversations about the X's and O's of the game.

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Kirby Smart's response to that was laughable and Fields should be getting his transfer papers ready.
Other than the tired (but likely true) comments about CKS seeing who does what during practice, that environment was not good to let Fields take the keys. Even as poorly as Fromm played in the first half, he's had a history of playing very well in the second half and it was justified to let Fromm try to get us a comeback. That performance wasn't just on Fromm. He had a lot of help with poor play in that game. Maybe if the defense was doing its job and our playcalling wasn't so awful on offense, CKS may have put more blame on Fromm and tried to get Fields more involved. He tried playing it safe.

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You're not being objective because you can't remove your head from Fromm's arse. When you can, then maybe you can be objective. You're trying to blow smoke up people's arse by making excuses for Fromm not seeing a wide open TD with plenty of time.
I'm looking at what was on the tape. You can disagree with my interpretation but you can't argue with what was objectively in view during that play. You can say that Fromm should have known the receiver would have been open in another second or that he should have known he had another second or two to wait before going through his progressions but it's easy to say that after the play is whistled dead. You would have been the first to say he held on to it too long had he waited and the receiver wasn't open and Fromm got sacked there. You want to have it both ways. I'm just trying to observe what actually happened and understand the various moving parts that occur during any given play.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25877 posts
Posted on 10/13/18 at 9:52 pm to
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led us to the NC last season.

People need to stop talking about last season. No one gives a frick about last season. Jake Fromm is playing shite football. This season, the relevant season.
This post was edited on 10/13/18 at 9:54 pm
Posted by K9
wayx....BOBO IN '19
Member since Sep 2012
24023 posts
Posted on 10/13/18 at 10:20 pm to
he had one bad game. you losers have totally overblown his performance the rest of the year. he has been good.


Doesnt it speak volumes that they didnt let Fields throw the ball once today? When Jake was having his worst game, they didnt let Fields throw. zero passes. That tells me he isnt ready. Or he hasnt shown he is ready to the coaches.

you suck kirby's dick on everything else, so are you gonna say he knows best here? or do you know something about fields arm, decision making, etc to say thats not the case?

the bigger issue is the OC calling shite games. Jake is obviously more comfortable running a quicker pace spread out offense. He crushes the two minute drill 9/10 times. Yet, we want to run the ball consistently. okay thats fine. WHY THE frick DIDNT WE STAY WITH THE RUN WHEN WE WERE GASHING THEM TODAY?

You preach sticking with the plan and then you bail on it in a game when your QB is off. makes no fricking sense.

Fromm isnt the problem. get Fields cock out of your face and focus on the real reason we loss. Chaney
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 10/13/18 at 10:31 pm to
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Doesnt it speak volumes that they didnt let Fields throw the ball once today?


Yes, it speaks to what an idiot Kirby Smart is.

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Fromm isnt the problem. get Fields cock out of your face and focus on the real reason we loss.


Fromm was the problem, or are you blind. He left three touchdowns on the field and was complete sh*t the entire game. Your only problem with Fields is his skin color. I suspect other people have that problem too and just won't admit it.
This post was edited on 10/13/18 at 10:32 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41675 posts
Posted on 10/13/18 at 10:34 pm to
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Your only problem with Fields is his skin color. I suspect other people have that problem too and just won't admit it.
Not that anyone was taking you seriously to begin with, but statements like this show you for the ignorant troll you are.

Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 10/13/18 at 10:38 pm to
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Not that anyone was taking you seriously to begin with, but statements like this show you for the ignorant troll you are.


Like I give a shite. It's as plain as the nose on your face. When you can't make a coherent argument and defend Fromm even in the face of his disastrous performance, only one thing comes to mind. Similar to the idiot in the White House that some of you love so much.
Posted by Barstools
Atlanta
Member since Jan 2016
9420 posts
Posted on 10/13/18 at 10:42 pm to
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Your only problem with Fields is his skin color. I suspect other people have that problem too and just won't admit it.


This is great. Just wanted to quote it so everyone can see what a gigantic fool you are.
This post was edited on 10/13/18 at 10:42 pm
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 10/13/18 at 10:56 pm to
From your dumb arse:

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I've got no problem as long as they aren't brown. I'm tired of this rampant cultural appropriation!


If it's sarcasm you suck at it. I've seen enough of some of you to know exactly what the deal is.

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Just wanted to quote it so everyone can see what a gigantic fool you are.


Do you really think I give a sh*t what some or all of you think? The fact that you think this would hurt my feelings somehow is pathetic. Why don't you throw up another pathetic defense of Jake Fromm.
This post was edited on 10/13/18 at 10:58 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41675 posts
Posted on 10/13/18 at 10:57 pm to
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Like I give a shite.
Yes, you've shown yourself to be quite resilient to facts and reason.

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It's as plain as the nose on your face.
No, it isn't. What's plain to see is that you have been bemoaning Fromm all season in favor of Fields when Fields has done nothing to warrant such an opinion except flash some athleticism with his legs. While those runs have been great, we need more than that from a QB, and while you can argue that he hasn't been given a chance to prove himself throwing the ball, so far his body of work is sparse and no one can draw any conclusions on him at this point. Even in the face of the absent of necessary data, you are still pushing Fields to start or at least substantial playing time over a QB--who up until today--has shown himself to be a talented asset behind center.

We've got an experienced QB that can run our offense smoothly as well as make throws we need to move the ball down the field and we've got a very untested QB who has shown he can be a quick and physical runner, but that's about it. You can argue that Fields should see more playing time (I'd agree with you there) but it's irrational to say that we would be better off benching Fromm for Fields going forward. Fields might be another Tua but he hasn't shown that he is yet.

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When you can't make a coherent argument and defend Fromm even in the face of his disastrous performance, only one thing comes to mind.
I've made coherent arguments for Fromm's performance for weeks and it hasn't swayed you because you blindly believe that Fields is the guy we should hand the ball to every snap. I agree that Fromm's performance wasn't good, at least from a statistical point of view. I'll have to watch all of his plays again before I say for sure that Fromm was the primary issue, though.

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Similar to the idiot in the White House that some of you love so much.
Interesting that you should bring that up. You must be a leftist of some flavor by pulling the race card. I'm sorry you're so triggered by reality. I hope you have a nice safe space to help you in these tough times.

MAGA
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 10/13/18 at 11:01 pm to
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Yes, you've shown yourself to be quite resilient to facts and reason.


You don't have any facts or reason. Fromm sucked to high heaven, and you can keep making excuses til you're blue in the face.

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I agree that Fromm's performance wasn't good, at least from a statistical point of view.


It was terrible from any point of view.

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You must be a leftist of some flavor by pulling the race card.


I'd have more respect if you just admitted it.
This post was edited on 10/13/18 at 11:04 pm
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41675 posts
Posted on 10/13/18 at 11:06 pm to
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You don't have any facts or reason. Fromm sucked to high heaven, and you can keep making excuses til you're blue in the face.
I've been providing football strategy and statistics to support my claims all season. You've simply emoted.

Also, did it cross your mind that perhaps LSU's defense was just good today?

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It was terrible from any point of view.
I didn't look good watching it live, which is why I will withhold judgement until I review all his plays like I do every week. First glances aren't always the most reliable ones.

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I'd have more respect if you just admitted it.
Admit what? That I like Fromm over Fields because Fromm is white and I'm a racist? Admission to such a thing would be absurd and untrue.

The vast majority of our team is black and I support all our players, regardless of their skin color. What I care about is how they perform, not what they look like. If Fields overtakes Fromm, I'll support the decision to have him be the starter and/or get the lion's share of the snaps. As a Trump supporter, I support merit-based rewards, not social justice. If Fields earns the spot, he'll deserve it and I'll support him like I support Fromm and like I supported Eason, Lambert, Mason, Murray, etc. before him.

It's quite trashy to accuse people of racism just because you don't like what they're saying.
This post was edited on 10/13/18 at 11:15 pm
Posted by HTDawg
Member since Sep 2016
6683 posts
Posted on 10/13/18 at 11:21 pm to
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What I care about is how they perform, not what they look like.


No you don't. It's quite clear you prefer Fromm over Fields and that no matter how shite he plays, that will continue to be your stance.

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It's quite trashy to accuse people of racism just because you don't like what they're saying.


Whatever you think, but I'm hardly the only one thinking it. It's being talked about on two other UGA boards. The simple fact is Smart sold Fields and his family a bill of goods and if they have any sense, they will haul arse out of Athens first chance they get. Fromm is taking this team nowhere and Fields will never get the chance too.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41675 posts
Posted on 10/13/18 at 11:40 pm to
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No you don't.
Yes I do.

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It's quite clear you prefer Fromm over Fields and that no matter how shite he plays, that will continue to be your stance.
Nope. I prefer Fromm to Fields right now because I know what Fromm is capable of and what he's shown already compared to Fields who I haven't seen what he can do throwing the ball against good defenses. You were calling for Fromm to be replaced even before today's game and in spite of the evidence that showed that Fromm was still a good QB and one that helped us score points and win games.


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Whatever you think, but I'm hardly the only one thinking it. It's being talked about on two other UGA boards.
I don't care who thinks what about the situation. I don't care about the race of our players and if you're accusing me of racism, that's the only opinion that matters.

Let the best players play, regardless of skin color. Right now only CKS and our coaching staff knows who is the best between the two, and it appears to be Fromm based on his playing time.

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The simple fact is Smart sold Fields and his family a bill of goods and if they have any sense, they will haul arse out of Athens first chance they get. Fromm is taking this team nowhere and Fields will never get the chance too.
You are such a drama queen.

Fromm is tried and true. We know what we have with him. We have no clue what we have with Fields other than that he runs hard and fast, which isn't the style of QB play our offense is built around exclusively. It's why our coaches have said that they don't have different plays or different schemes with Fields vs. Fromm; they both learn the same plays. It's how well each one manages the offense and executes the plays that matters most. Add to that the inexperience of Fields vs. the experience of Fromm and it's a no-brainer. You don't risk a game on a gamble with a freshman QB unless you have to. That's the only reason Tua was put into the game against us last year: Saban was up against the wall in the last game of the season with nothing else to lose by putting him in there. We aren't in that position yet.

If Fields feels like he's been cheated or lied to, he's free to go somewhere else, but he's gotten playing time in every game this season. Whether that's been to the level of his preference is another matter, but I'm sure he was told like every other recruit that CKS goes after that he has to earn his playing time.
Posted by DawgRff
Snellville Ga
Member since Jul 2012
6309 posts
Posted on 10/13/18 at 11:49 pm to
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he had one bad game. you losers have totally overblown his performance the rest of the year. he has been good.

One bad game? Outside of South Carolina Fromm has been inconsistant. Fromm has made a couple deep throws, but what QB hasn't? With this Oline and receivers, an average QB would look good. Its time for a game changer and Fields is it.
This post was edited on 10/13/18 at 11:53 pm
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