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re: Jake Fromm should never start another game at Georgia
Posted on 10/14/18 at 8:39 am to DawgsLife
Posted on 10/14/18 at 8:39 am to DawgsLife
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If Fields had come in and done just as poorly, would you think Fields should transfer and never play again at Georgia?
If ifs and buts were candy and nuts. We'll never know will we.
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When did Greyson Lambert lead us to the National Championship game?
Fromm didn't lead us to squat. Nick Chubb, Sony Michel, and Roquan Smith and company led us to a NC game. Fromm was along for the ride.
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We have too many people that know absolutely nothing about football and go strictly by their feelings
Every post you make proves you don't have a clue.
This post was edited on 10/14/18 at 8:42 am
Posted on 10/14/18 at 8:41 am to HTDawg
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germandawg, nobody really believes that Fields sucks in practice or can’t beat Fromm. Smart never had any intention of an honest QB competition. Fromm was the starter from day one and anything said other than that was coach speak to appease Fields and keep him at bay.
This very well could be true but is there any evidence at all? If it is true Smart will destroy the program
Posted on 10/14/18 at 8:46 am to DawgsLife
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One last thing that people should consider: 1. Kirby messed up when he did the fake FG. That set the tone. (I understand why he did it, but it was a mistake. had it worked, he would have been a hero, though.) 2. The staff messed up when we moved away from the running game. We were dominating their Oline early and would have worn them down had we continued. That would also have opened up the play action a bit more. 3. While the defense overall did okay, we got gashed badly in the secondary on two plays the receivers were wide open. One for a TD and one for a 50 yard gain that led, I think to a TD. 4. Hardman cost us another TD with his fumble on the kickoff. 21 points that should have not happened.
Let's make more excuses for 11.
If a player at any other position on the field plays as shitty as he did, their arse is on the bench.
That isn't an emotional response. That is fact. Accountability should apply equally.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 8:58 am to Crowknowsbest
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Crowknowsbest
youre aligning yourself with an emotional kneehigh. just remember that.
This post was edited on 10/14/18 at 9:00 am
Posted on 10/14/18 at 8:59 am to VADawg
quote:You and others keep saying this but you ignore that the biggest reason for this wasn't Fromm, himself. The LSU secondary was really good and the best we’ve faced so far this season. Fields wasn’t going to magically change that as much as people think he has super powers.
Apparently he does. What I saw at QB today was a goddamn abortion. Feliepe Franks looked like a competent QB against LSU. Fromm looked like a below average Sun Belt player.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:01 am to FooManChoo
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The LSU secondary was really good and the best we’ve faced so far this season.
It was, but there were still UGA receivers running wide open all over the place. Fromm played a disastrous game.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:01 am to Crowknowsbest
quote:There is a big difference between a QB and “a player at any other position”, whether we like it or not.
If a player at any other position on the field plays as shitty as he did, their arse is on the bench.
That isn't an emotional response. That is fact. Accountability should apply equally.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:02 am to FooManChoo
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You and others keep saying this but you ignore that the biggest reason for this wasn't Fromm, himself. The LSU secondary was really good and the best we’ve faced so far this season.
Good Lord, the excuse making and arse kissing you make over Fromm is ridiculous. It's downright pathetic. He was protected all day by his line and had plenty of time to throw. He had open receivers throughout the day. He missed 3 wide open TDs. You don't even have the guts to call his performance what it was, which was shite.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:03 am to K9
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youre aligning yourself with an emotional kneehigh. just remember that.
Sometimes emotional people are right.
It seems to me that the crew wanting to stay with the status quo are leaning that way due to emotional reasons, tbh
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:05 am to HTDawg
quote:You can downplay Fromms role in our success last year all you want but it was objectively clear that what Fromm did for us as a true freshman was phenomenal. It’s why CKS kept him in there and why he let Eason hold the clipboard all season.
Fromm didn't lead us to squat. Nick Chubb, Sony Michel, and Roquan Smith and company led us to a NC game. Fromm was along for the ride.
You sound more and more ignorant of football and history with every post you make.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:07 am to FooManChoo
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You sound more and more ignorant of football and history with every post you make.
You sound like the biggest arse-kiss with every post you make. I don't know if you've figured this out yet, but this isn't last year and Fromm has been exposed.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:10 am to Crowknowsbest
The throw to Hardman to start the game was bad. The worst pass was the one to a wide open Swift though on the 3rd down and 5ish.
This post was edited on 10/14/18 at 9:12 am
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:16 am to Dawgsontop34
The horrendous sack where he held the ball for what seemed like 10 seconds, that took us out of FG position when we had a chance to cut it to one score was the worst. You don't expect that out of an experienced QB.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:17 am to HTDawg
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The horrendous sack where he held the ball for what seemed like 10 seconds, that took us out of FG position when we had a chance to cut it to one score was the worst. You don't expect that out of an experienced QB.
Had a WR wide open for a TD on a post route as well
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:18 am to HTDawg
Yeah, that was inexcusably terrible. I understand he was trying to make a play, but you just can’t take a sack there.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:29 am to HTDawg
quote:Do you have actual rebuttals to the arguments made or are you just going to deflect with “but muh excuses”?
Good Lord, the excuse making and arse kissing you make over Fromm is ridiculous.
quote:On some plays he had great protection and on other plays he didn’t. Your generalizations don’t do a service to your arguments.
He was protected all day by his line and had plenty of time to throw.
Not only that, but good protection just buys a QB more time to throw. It doesn’t automatically make receivers get open, thus my comment about the LSU secondary. If I was talking about the LSU DL, you might have a partial point.
quote:So are you going to argue that out of all the passing opportunities we had, that Fromm had open receivers on 3 plays as a rebuttal to my comment about the LSU secondary being good?
He had open receivers throughout the day. He missed 3 wide open TDs.
The first play was an overthrow for sure,but it was on a deep throw which was a low percentage throw anyway. It was off by a couple of feet and it was early in the game. I can understand why he missed it but he did miss it.
Another “wide open receiver” was in the red zone when the receiver was not wide open during the read. Fromm looked his way for a second or a second and a half then moved to his next read. When Fromm turned his head, the first receiver got open. With LSUs pass rush being effective, it’s no wonder Fromm moved on to the next guy. That is what mature QBs do, otherwise he would be “locking on” to a receiver which usually gets a lot of flak from guys like you.
Not sure about that 3rd receiver you were talking about. Please refresh my memory.
quote:I already said he had a poor performance. I just also realize that there is more to it than Fromm. You seem to want to place 100% of yesterday’s effort on him and that is what I take exception to. It is dishonest, disingenuous, and lacks common sense along with basic understanding of the game.
You don't even have the guts to call his performance what it was, which was shite.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:40 am to FooManChoo
Fromm had open receivers all day, not just on the missed TDs, so much so that some of them were downright angry. He also had plenty of protection other than a few plays here and there. Considering Ben Cleveland is out and Kindley is hobbling, the line played very well.
When you come up with any decent arguments other than making excuses for Fromm, let me know. Until then, anyone is wasting their time arguing with you.
When you come up with any decent arguments other than making excuses for Fromm, let me know. Until then, anyone is wasting their time arguing with you.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:44 am to HTDawg
HT, your biggest problem is that you melted last year way too early and it kind of crushed your credibility with this board, and then you didn’t ever own it. You just made excuses.
I think you make a couple good points about Fromm and some terrible ones. But some people ignore the good ones because you’ve put people off. I feel like you can understand that.
I think you make a couple good points about Fromm and some terrible ones. But some people ignore the good ones because you’ve put people off. I feel like you can understand that.
Posted on 10/14/18 at 9:46 am to FooManChoo
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Another “wide open receiver” was in the red zone when the receiver was not wide open during the read. Fromm looked his way for a second or a second and a half then moved to his next read. When Fromm turned his head, the first receiver got open. With LSUs pass rush being effective, it’s no wonder Fromm moved on to the next guy. That is what mature QBs do, otherwise he would be “locking on” to a receiver which usually gets a lot of flak from guys like you.
This is a great point... What would the pitchfork carriers say if Jake locked into Terry there, never went through his progressions, and missed a wide open WR on the other side of the field? They would bitch him up and down.
That play was just bad luck, Terry didnt get open until Fromm moved to his next read. t sucked, but its hard for me to blame Fromm for doing what he is supposed to do. If the read is covered you progress to the next one.
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