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Posted on 11/5/21 at 6:43 am to Spaceman Spiff
Posted on 11/5/21 at 6:43 am to Spaceman Spiff
Notice I said if. And if he’s guilty, jail. Wouldn’t it be something if he’s innocent that his lawyer would sue all these influencers who are trying to sway opinion and smearing him - if he’s innocent?
I would be shocked if this goes to court, most likely no one ever know what happened, look for this to be settled out of court quickly.
I would be shocked if this goes to court, most likely no one ever know what happened, look for this to be settled out of court quickly.
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Posted on 11/5/21 at 8:08 am to FaCubeItches
quote:What a twisted crock.
So could every director/producer in Hollywood, every politician or finance guy who's juiced in in their city...that's not really a good defense to offer.
AA is not a Harvey Weinstein. That dude is a disgusting Jabba the Hutt troglodyte who took advantage of countless women by pure extortion and threats of malice.
AA is a really good kid who college girls genuinely want to be with because he’s good looking and plays football for UGA.
That group you mention typically has power over women somehow. AA has nothing to hold over anyone. It’s not close to a relative comparison.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 8:31 am to BeefDawg
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college girls
Well, team groupie sluts, yes. Beyond that, you are making a lot of assumptions. Other student athletes (and pro athletes) have in fact been convicted of sexual assault, which kind of goes against your theory that they don't have to rape anyone because they have access to willing partners.
The reality is, you don't know anything more about what did or didn't happen in this situation than anyone else.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 8:36 am to Lucius Clay
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Well, team groupie sluts, yes. Beyond that, you are making a lot of assumptions. Other student athletes (and pro athletes) have in fact been convicted of sexual assault, which kind of goes against your theory that they don't have to rape anyone because they have access to willing partners.
The reality is, you don't know anything more about what did or didn't happen in this situation than anyone else.
Seems that you are, too.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 8:50 am to Spaceman Spiff
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Seems that you are, too.
My only assumption is that I don't know what actually happened. My comment above was that the old argument that so-and-so wouldn't or couldn't rape someone because he's good looking or could get a willing partner is nonsensical.
But I have yet to see anyone on this board or any media person prematurely declaring AA's guilt. If anything, from the UGA fanbase, there will likely be more throwing dirt on the accuser.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 8:55 am to Lucius Clay
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But I have yet to see anyone on this board or any media person prematurely declaring AA's guilt. If anything, from the UGA fanbase, there will likely be more throwing dirt on the accuser.
The metoo's are screaming. Just look around. As far as here, there are some that appear to say he's guilty. The media? We both know that they can't come out directly for fear of libel, but the word "accused" is all that's needed in this world.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 8:58 am to Lucius Clay
quote:I didn't proclaim him innocent and her guilty or visa versa. I used a lot of “IF’s” and just spoke about logic and things we do know about AA.
Well, team groupie sluts, yes. Beyond that, you are making a lot of assumptions. Other student athletes (and pro athletes) have in fact been convicted of sexual assault, which kind of goes against your theory that they don't have to rape anyone because they have access to willing partners.
The reality is, you don't know anything more about what did or didn't happen in this situation than anyone else.
He made a false equivalency comparison and that’s all I refuted.
AA has nothing to extort or hold over anyone. He doesn’t control anyone’s career or future success. He’s a broke college kid several years from having any real wealth, and even then he still won’t have any actual power over anyone, unlike the group of people he was compared to.
So WTF are you on about?
Posted on 11/5/21 at 9:03 am to BeefDawg
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What a twisted crock.
AA is not a Harvey Weinstein. That dude is a disgusting Jabba the Hutt troglodyte who took advantage of countless women by pure extortion and threats of malice.
AA is a really good kid who college girls genuinely want to be with because he’s good looking and plays football for UGA.
That group you mention typically has power over women somehow. AA has nothing to hold over anyone. It’s not close to a relative comparison.
In something like 90% of rapes, the victim knows the perpetrator. This includes "nice guys" who have everything going for them and have "no reason" to commit egregious crimes.
News outlets should really should keep shite like this quiet until the facts are gathered, but I guess that doesn't make for good TV. We don't know anything right now, and it isn't fair to make assumptions about either party at this time.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 9:04 am to Lucius Clay
quote:First, I didn’t say he “wouldn’t”, I said he doesn’t “need to”.
My only assumption is that I don't know what actually happened. My comment above was that the old argument that so-and-so wouldn't or couldn't rape someone because he's good looking or could get a willing partner is nonsensical.
If he’s a deviant with a violent sexual gratification complex, then certainly it’s possible he “would”.
But without that type of personality, he isn’t lacking for female attention and needing to rape anyone. And the kid simply does not come across as a violent deviant by any stretch.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 9:07 am to FinleyStreet
quote:WTF does that have to do with him comparing AA to Hollywood producers and people with power over women?
In something like 90% of rapes, the victim knows the perpetrator. This includes "nice guys" who have everything going for them and have "no reason" to commit egregious crimes.
Why quote me and then bring up something that has nothing to do with what was being discussed?
Posted on 11/5/21 at 9:11 am to FinleyStreet
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News outlets should really should keep shite like this quiet until the facts are gathered, but I guess that doesn't make for good TV. We don't know anything right now, and it isn't fair to make assumptions about either party at this time.
Bingo. But the assumptions are there. On both sides.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 9:15 am to BeefDawg
I could be wrong, but it sounded like you were alluding to the fact that AA isn't likely to rape someone because he isn't a Harvey Weinstein type - he's a normal, nice, attractive guy with a lot going for him. I'm just pointing out that most rapists aren't like Harvey Weinstein at all. They are just regular dudes who are probably perfectly nice in most circumstances. Apologies to you if I misinterpreted your take on it.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 9:18 am to FinleyStreet
No reflection on Adam but was reminded today to think of this in terms of your niece, sister, or daughter.
I can say with fact that every long term female relationship I have had has told me of a time a guy forced themselves on them.
Not saying he did or didn’t but it is unfair to simply not believe her because some women have fabricated stories.
Far more men have done this and lied or got away with it than women who fabricated a story.
Hopefully, there is enough evidence to make it clear what happened. Sadly, this was likely just two people in a room at some point and that requires characters to be attacked on both sides.
I can say with fact that every long term female relationship I have had has told me of a time a guy forced themselves on them.
Not saying he did or didn’t but it is unfair to simply not believe her because some women have fabricated stories.
Far more men have done this and lied or got away with it than women who fabricated a story.
Hopefully, there is enough evidence to make it clear what happened. Sadly, this was likely just two people in a room at some point and that requires characters to be attacked on both sides.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 9:24 am to RealDawg
I think the incident goes to show that there is a lot of practical good to living as God wants us to. Fleeing temptation, not getting drunk, and not having premarital sex would have prevented the whole incident, regardless of who is the victim in this situation.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 9:29 am to RealDawg
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No reflection on Adam but was reminded today to think of this in terms of your niece, sister, or daughter.
I can say with fact that every long term female relationship I have had has told me of a time a guy forced themselves on them.
And there is the automatic assumption.
Consider Schablach's article - he said that "Georgia has indefinitely suspended starting linebacker Adam Anderson, who has been accused of raping a woman"
Tell me how that doesn't influence.
This post was edited on 11/5/21 at 9:37 am
Posted on 11/5/21 at 9:38 am to FinleyStreet
quote:We can all agree that we don’t know if AA has some inner hidden violent sexual deviancy and gets his rocks off raping women. And if that’s the case, then yeah, his looks and status don’t matter.
I could be wrong, but it sounded like you were alluding to the fact that AA isn't likely to rape someone because he isn't a Harvey Weinstein type - he's a normal, nice, attractive guy with a lot going for him. I'm just pointing out that most rapists aren't like Harvey Weinstein at all. They are just regular dudes who are probably perfectly nice in most circumstances. Apologies to you if I misinterpreted your take on it.
But that’s not been any part of my discussions.
I said he has his pick of coeds anytime he wants because he’s by all appearances a good, attractive, kid who plays football at UGA, so he doesn’t “need” to rape girls to get laid.
Then someone tried to contradict that assertion by comparing AA to the likes of people who extort women via their power over them. And THIS is a ridiculous false-equivalency.
Then all these replies followed that have nothing to do with that and are bringing up examples of people who clearly have a violent sexual deviancy.
These are all separate issues, but for some reason you folks keep quoting me as if they’re all the same thing and acting like I’m defending AA as if I am claiming he couldn’t possibly rape someone, which isn’t at all what I’ve said.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 9:47 am to Spaceman Spiff
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And there is the automatic assumption. Consider Schablach's article - he said that "Georgia has indefinitely suspended starting linebacker Adam Anderson, who has been accused of raping a woman"
Which is what any school has to do today.
It does impact.
The ONLY way to protect this situation is to teach the young men and women how to avoid it completely. Which I have zero doubt they have done. We hear about it far less than we did in the past.
Posted on 11/5/21 at 3:52 pm to FooManChoo
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Fleeing temptation, not getting drunk, and not having premarital sex
But what would that do to the college experience?
Posted on 11/5/21 at 6:54 pm to Lucius Clay
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But what would that do to the college experience?
In this case keep you from being investigated for rape, not to mention other related issues
Posted on 11/5/21 at 7:14 pm to BeefDawg
Rapists never "need" to rape to get laid. You don't have to be a purple haired woke feminist to understand this. Even a guy who has a hard time due to his looks or whatever can still hire a whore, if beating off isn't getting the job done. This idea that if a guy is ugly or is a loser "needs to rape" is ridiculous. It sets up a false premise. The fact AA didn't "need to rape" isn't even part of the equation. I'll be downvoted for this, but in recent years I have come to understand that downvotes actually mean upvotes, ironically.
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