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re: Is Georgia Tech worthy of a #7 ranking?

Posted on 10/20/25 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 12:11 pm to
List of teams with a higher strength of schedule:

Georgia Southern
ULM
Missouri State
Ohio

https://www.espn.com/college-football/fpi/_/view/resume/sort/resume.avgsosrank/dir/asc
Posted by gulfportdawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:37 pm to
Agree about rankings. I don't think there should be any until October at the earliest. The way UGA has struggled is why I believe there would be an argument about how high they are ranked.

Things are very different in college football now so, it really doesn't matter about rankings until later in the season.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 2:28 pm to
Rankings today are just something to stir the drink for ratings
Posted by agentoranj1990
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 3:16 pm to
It's kind of like SMU last year. Tech should make the ACC championship. if they lose badly to UGA and then lose the ACC championship they may be on the bubble to make the playoffs. In that scenario I don't think they would have a single win over a top 25 opponent.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 8:30 pm to
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They haven’t lost so yes. Bama lost to a team that is like 4 games behind them in the ACC.


That’s one game. Georgia Tech is barely beating teams on a 72nd ranked SOS. They haven’t handily beaten one good team. Bama has beaten 4 ranked teams in a row.
Posted by gulfportdawg
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 8:41 pm to
They'll look like world beaters when they play UGA.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:58 pm to
Not this time. Kirby will actually try to blow them out this year. I think he learned after 8OT’s that he’s going to have to get the team up for the game from now on. I’m sure the game being in the Benz will help them take it seriously.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 12:09 am to
How would we know? Tech's schedule so far is closer to a G5 schedule than a P4 schedule. The 5 P4 teams that Tech has beaten have played G5 type schedules too. Neither GT nor any P4 team they've played has beaten a ranked opponent. The highest ranked opponent that any of them have faced (other than #7 GT) is #11 BYU (Colorado played them), who probably has as good a claim to be top 10 as GT.

Georgia's five conference opponents so far is a harder schedule than the toughest five you could assemble from Tech's P4 opponents (so far) and all of their opponents combined, in my opinion. Doesn't mean Tech isn't actually a top 10 team, but all we know right now is that they're better than a bunch of mediocre to bad teams.
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 12:22 am
Posted by djsdawg
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Posted on 10/21/25 at 9:46 pm to
Advanced stats say they aren’t even top 25
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 7:42 am to
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Top five teams shouldn't have 3 games like that.
In 2022, we were a few plays away from losing to Missouri and Kentucky, and maybe not even making the playoffs. We were then a missed FG away from losing to Ohio State.

That’s football.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:07 am to
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Top five teams shouldn't have 3 games like that.



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In 2022, we were a few plays away from losing to Missouri and Kentucky, and maybe not even making the playoffs. We were then a missed FG away from losing to Ohio State.



You don't even have to look back to previous years. In any one score game (and some more than one score) you can find a single play that might have changed the outcome. #3 Texas A&M beat ND by one point, Auburn by 6, Arkansas by 3. #4 Alabama lost to FSU, which is 0-4 vs the ACC, beat Georgia by 3, beat Mizzou by 3. Last Saturday, 14 of their 17 point margin of victory against Tennessee swung with one play at the end of the first half. #1 Ohio State struggled to win by 7 against Texas, the only high talent team they've played.

In 2025, any team that doesn't have multiple close games has played a weak schedule. If the criteria for being in the top 5 is winning almost all your games with ease, then all you do is eliminate teams with difficult schedules. This year you'd be hard pressed to find a top five.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 9:13 am
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:19 am to
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In 2025, any team that doesn't have multiple close games has played a weak schedule. If the criteria for being in the top 5 is winning almost all your games with ease, then all you do is eliminate teams with difficult schedules. This year you'd be hard pressed to find a top five.
I agree completely. That's why I highlighted the 2022 season, because I think we can easily say that we were a complete and dominant team, going undefeated and setting the record for our win against TCU in the national championship game, and yet if we played the "what if" game, we might not have even made it to the playoffs, and we certainly might not have won it all. That's the nature of the game.
Posted by JCdawg
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:27 pm to
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Are they worthy of the #7 ranking? Probably. Are they the 7th best team in CFB? No.


If they aren't the 7th best team, then they aren't worthy of being ranked 7th.

Thats not how rankings are supposed to work.
Posted by Darindawg
Member since May 2022
3867 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 7:03 am to
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In 2022, we were a few plays away from losing to Missouri and Kentucky, and maybe not even making the playoffs. We were then a missed FG away from losing to Ohio State.

That’s football.


Absolutely...go back to my early post on page 1 where I chronicle the close calls we had. Rarely, and I mean RARELY has there been a dominant cfb team that went through a whole season and won a natty didn't have some sluggish games and have to have the ball bounce their way with, as Munson would put it..."Old lady luck smile on them".
Posted by VADawg
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 7:33 am to
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Not this time. Kirby will actually try to blow them out this year. I think he learned after 8OT’s that he’s going to have to get the team up for the game from now on. I’m sure the game being in the Benz will help them take it seriously.


The coaching staff got caught with their pants down last year, so to speak. Haynes King was much healthier than they expected him to be.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4604 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 10:41 am to
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The coaching staff got caught with their pants down last year, so to speak. Haynes King was much healthier than they expected him to be.


Nah, I think they knew, or should've known, King was fine. If you go back and look at Tech's Miami and NC State games, Philo was the starting quarterback and threw the bulk of the passes, but they brought King in for designed runs, and he was running hard with lots of contact. 20 carries for 93 yards against Miami, 8 for 22 against NC State.

I saw one play in the Miami game (either that one or NC State) where King ran straight ahead and got slammed directly on his "injured" shoulder by a linebacker, got up and went back to the huddle without even a wince and, if I recall correctly, threw a pass on the next play. If your starting qb has an injured arm or shoulder and is trying to get healthy to finish the season, that's not the way you manage him. They were letting him prepare for UGA during that last month.
Posted by VADawg
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 11:31 am to
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Nah, I think they knew, or should've known, King was fine. If you go back and look at Tech's Miami and NC State games, Philo was the starting quarterback and threw the bulk of the passes, but they brought King in for designed runs, and he was running hard with lots of contact. 20 carries for 93 yards against Miami, 8 for 22 against NC State.


He threw 22 passes against UNC on October 12, sat out the next two games entirely, threw 9 combined passes in the next two games, and then threw 36 passes against Georgia.

All of the reporting out of Tech at the time was that throwing the ball was more painful for him than taking hits on the shoulder and it was rumored to be a rotator cuff issue. In hindsight, it seems like Tech was sandbagging the shite out of his injury to make Georgia believe he was more injured than he really was and it worked.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 10/23/25 at 11:38 am to
Waht I recall most about their success last year was:

1) Them running the exact same frigging QB run play with a lead or pulling back, ala thorne for AU in 23, that we simply could not stop
2) they had that really great WR

That WR isn't there anymore, and something tells me kirby isn't going to allow #1 to happen again.

I think people are letting last year's game unfairly cloud their judgment of this year's. We appear to be a much better team than them, and we will very obviously be much more battle tested than them.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4604 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 2:24 pm to
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All of the reporting out of Tech at the time was that throwing the ball was more painful for him than taking hits on the shoulder and it was rumored to be a rotator cuff issue. In hindsight, it seems like Tech was sandbagging the shite out of his injury to make Georgia believe he was more injured than he really was and it worked.


I know what Tech was selling, I just don't think Georgia bought it. Teams don't use their starting qb with a shoulder injury as a battering ram. He may have been injured against North Carolina, but he was obviously pretty much healed by the Miami game. Kirby's seen every trick in the book and I'm confident he figured out that King would likely be ready and start, because I did.

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I discussed some of our potential problems before the game, and some other factors like Tech had been preparing for the game for a month, and most likely holding their qb out intentionally for part of that.



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Maybe King is not as badly damaged as it seems....my uninformed guess is that King will start and play most of the game against Georgia.



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re the NC St game:
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The way they used King is still a bit odd to me. They repeatedly called what looked like designed runs, several times straight into the teeth of the defense. If I'm a junior quarterback with an injured throwing shoulder, not sure I'd want to play that role. And I'm not sure why the coach would use an injured starting quarterback that way, especially in a game that's basically meaningless.


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The spread does seem high. My guess is that people believe Philo is the main QB and have no confidence in a freshman on the road at UGA. I don't know if that's a safe assumption or not. Wouldn't be shocked if King started and played most snaps.


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Tech is already bowl eligible. In Brent Key's situation, I think he might see risking the NC St game for a chance to knock UGA out of the playoffs as equivalent to risking two pair for the chance at a royal flush. Probably a losing tradeoff, but the upside is great and the downside limited.


This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 3:17 pm
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
34301 posts
Posted on 10/24/25 at 9:54 pm to
Almost took Syracuse +16.5 but can’t pull trigger

Tech is 2025 fools gold . Not sure exposure date yet.
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