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re: Identity Politics are being used to divide this Country like no other time

Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:18 pm to
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:18 pm to
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love hearing about the term white nationalist thought. Because love of country and being white is frowned upon.



Dude are you dense or did you not see the shite that went down there? The people on the white nationalist side weren't just your average pro American baw, they were neo NAZIs some waving the NAZI flag and spouting racist rhetoric.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:20 pm to
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The establishment Republicans are in it for the ultra rich


Trump doesn't take a check - He's never earned a dime that wasn't from his on business or his company or his namesake. Nothing he has done has enriched any rich people and infact most rich people in big business are extremely liberal.

Leaders of both parties are known scumbags that have gotten rich on the govt dime. Can't dispute that. But to suggest anything Trump has done was to enrich the rich is silly.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15666 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:22 pm to
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Dude are you dense or did you not see the shite that went down there? The people on the white nationalist side weren't just your average pro American baw, they were neo NAZIs some waving the NAZI flag and spouting racist rhetoric.


There were also run of the mill conservatives that were there protesting the removal of the statues.

Now back to the proud boys. - How are they or how have they ever promoted white nationalism.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:23 pm to
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Oops, my mistake, it was your boy Sheftie. Easy to get y'all confused.


I don't have any boys - boy.


But nice try being a liar. It seems to be in your blood.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:24 pm to
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He's never earned a dime that wasn't from his on business or his company or his namesake
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But to suggest anything Trump has done was to enrich the rich is silly.

I never said Trump was part of the establishment just that he isn't doing what he does for the average citizen.

Trump is a great con man and he has convinced so many people that he's on their side all the while doing very little for them.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49316 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:26 pm to
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There were also run of the mill conservatives that were there protesting the removal of the statues.


You got any actual proof or are just assuming because you get pissy when someone takes down a monument of a man who fought to keep people in chains?
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:27 pm to
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Trump is a great con man


Never been arrested


Never been charged with a crime.

Been in public life for 40 years.


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he has convinced so many people that he's on their side all the while doing very little for them.


He's done plenty that he said he would do when he ran.
Posted by baconwaffle
Houston
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:28 pm to
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There were also run of the mill conservatives that were there protesting the removal of the statues.


That's like arguing that Nazi Germany was good because there were a few good Germans.

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Now back to the proud boys. - How are they or how have they ever promoted white nationalism.


As I said, they immediately disavowed the rest of the people at the rally. Regardless of whether or not they are white nationalist, they promote the use of violence and destruction of property of those who oppose them. Not "fine people."
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49316 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:30 pm to
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Never been arrested

Hence why I said great
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He's done plenty that he said he would do when he ran.


Really?

Still in the middle east
Hasn't drained the swamp
Still have no wall
Also Mexico isn't paying for it
She still hasn't been locked up
Still have virtually the same number of companies outsourcing

I mean what has he done besides some tax cuts and a few trade deals?
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49316 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:33 pm to
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Whites are the least tribal race on the planet. It's funny watching white guilt cucks try to convince everyone otherwise.

Wow holy frick I was talking about political tribalism which you seem to heavily engage in
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15666 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:33 pm to
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You got any actual proof or are just assuming because you get pissy when someone takes down a monument of a man who fought to keep people in chains?


It's part of our history as a country. Not everyone that fought for the south did so for slavery. It's nice to see you have no education to go with your arguments though. Many people who fought could have easily ended up fighting for the North including Robert E Lee. Unlike liberals, I have no problem with Statues that show leaders that helped shape America - Good and bad. We gone have a book burning next?

And yes, I'm sure there were many good people that went.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15666 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:34 pm to
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Wow holy frick I was talking about political tribalism which you seem to heavily engage in


Sure - I'm sorry my opinion offends your delicate sensibilities.
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49316 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:38 pm to
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Not everyone that fought for the south did so for slavery.

Never said that but the south was fighting for slavery.
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Unlike liberals,

Again with the tribalism
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have no problem with Statues that show leaders that helped shape America

Expect the Confederate army was literally the enemy of America
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Good and bad. We gone have a book burning next?

Nope but we don't have to put a statue of every historical figure. Germany isn't erecting statues of the NAZIs even if it was a big part of their history. Museums exist for a reason
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I'm sure there were many good people that went.



The overwhelming majority of people were Neo NAZIs even if there were some good people on that side it's still an insanely dumb thing to say considering most were fricking NAZIs
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49316 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:39 pm to
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I'm sorry my opinion offends your delicate sensibilities

Not offended just surprised of your lack of understanding what context is.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15666 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:42 pm to
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Hence why I said great


So without proof you casually throw out hes a con man.

Yeah, you might wanna get your head checked.

You sound like those liberals that accused him of being a Russian Puppet without proof.
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Still in the middle east - Troops are down drastically. He was criticized for pulling troops out of Syria.

Hasn't drained the swamp- James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Lisa Page, plenty in the state department like Yavonovich and others have been let go. He's done a shitload of draining. Still plenty to go.

Still have no wall - Not fully - but walls have gone up. To suggest otherwise is silly.


Also Mexico isn't paying for it - Don't give a shite

She still hasn't been locked up - Not his job

Still have virtually the same number of companies outsourcing - He also did exactly what he would do for the coal industry and he fought hard on deregulation which he did his first month in office.


I mean what has he done besides some tax cuts and a few trade deals?


Criminal Justice Reform
Recognized Jerusalem as the capital of Isreal and moved the embassy.
Withdrew from the Paris Climate Accords
Got rid of Net Neutrality
He got NATO allies to kick in $12 billion more toward our collective security.
Basically destroyed ISIS - Still have troops in Afghanistan which he did promise to pull out. Hasn't happened yet.
He has taken a tough line with Russia. Trump approved a $47 million arms package for Ukraine, sent troops to Poland's border with Russia and imposed new sanctions on Moscow for violating the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces Treaty.
Pulled out of the IRAN deal.

Plenty more good things but you get the gist.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15666 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:44 pm to
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were fricking NAZIs


Right, because there is so many NAZIs and KKK members running around.

Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15666 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:45 pm to
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Not offended just surprised of your lack of understanding what context is.


You said leaders that kept people in chains - specifically referring to slavery and you clearly didn't know your own context.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15666 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 8:52 pm to
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Nope but we don't have to put a statue of every historical figure. Germany isn't erecting statues of the NAZIs even if it was a big part of their history. Museums exist for a reason



It's part of history - Confederate statues show leaders that helped shape where our country is today and how it was formed. You are trying to insuniate these men are evil. Should we tear down Sherman statues for being a general piece of shite. What about Thomas Jefferson, WHat about George Washington. Lots of people that owned slaves have statues all over the place that didn't fight for the confederacy.

Where does the silliness end?
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49316 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:07 pm to
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Troops are down drastically.

False
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The clearest measure of Trump’s retrenchment efforts, or lack thereof, is foreign troop deployments. In the final months of Obama’s presidency, approximately 198,000 active duty U.S. military personnel were deployed overseas, according to the Pentagon’s Defense Manpower Data Center. By comparison, the most recent figure for the Trump administration is 174,000 active duty troops. But even that difference reflects an accounting trick. Beginning in December 2017, the Defense Department started excluding troops deployed to Afghanistan, Iraq, and Syria from its official reports, citing a vague need to “protect our forces.” When the estimated troop levels for those three countries are added back in, the current total is around 194,000—roughly equivalent to the number Trump inherited.


Oh and let's not forget that weapons deal with the Saudis that are being used to commit a genocide in Yemen

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got NATO allies to kick in $12 billion more toward our collective security

Maybe Trump doesn't have the influence he claims
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Yet Trump has had limited success pressing NATO countries to live up to a 2014 pledge to spend two percent of GDP on defense within a decade. When he took office, just four of the 29 NATO members (Britain, the United States, Estonia, and Greece) met the threshold. Four more countries (Poland, Romania, Latvia, and Lithuania) have hit the target since then, but mainly because their spending was already trending in that direction. At the same time, British defense spending actually fell and is expected to flat-line at around 2.1 percent. French defense spending is slated to rise from 1.8 percent of GDP to two percent, but not until 2025. Germany won’t hit the two percent target until 2031. Even on the flattering but unrealistic assumption that these modest shifts are a response to Trump, together they will amount to no more than a $38 billion increase by the end of 2019, from $261 billion in non-U.S. NATO spending in 2016 to an estimated $299 billion this year.
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Withdrew from the Paris Climate Accords and the Iran Deal

Not a good thing
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Trump approved a $47 million arms package for Ukraine, sent troops to Poland's border with Russia 

Ah yes nothing like more proxy wars
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 9:11 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49316 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:10 pm to
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Where does the silliness end?


Jefferson, Sherman, Washington, they were all fighting for something that wasn't objectively terrible. The South's entire reason for fighting was to make sure new states had the ability to choose if they wanted to own slaves.
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