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I still think of Kirby as a New Coach

Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:22 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63758 posts
Posted on 8/3/22 at 5:22 pm
But it just occurred to me that this season he will reach the equivalent of Richt's midpoint in his career here.

After Richt's 7th year, he finished with a blowout vs Hawaii with a #2 ranking in the final polls and preseason #1 going into 2008.
Posted by BradleyDawg
Member since Dec 2019
231 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 8:26 pm to
time flies when you're having fun
Posted by SneakyWaff1es
Member since Nov 2012
3939 posts
Posted on 8/4/22 at 9:22 pm to
It’s crazy how similar their careers have been. Kirby has had the benefit of being in the playoff era and having a very weak East. He’s done a much better job than Richt at setting up the program for future success.
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27288 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:49 am to
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He’s done a much better job than Richt at setting up the program for future success.


Sure but he's also had much better support from the AD and administration
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:54 am to
Richt had a major life event with cancer in the family and he should have stepped away. Its not personal, its an at the time 3.5 million dollar job where the only perspective is winning.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora, Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
63758 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:39 am to
Do yall remember all those people who didn't want to fire Richt because then we'd lose Jacob Eason's commitment? I remember it like it was yesterday.

Many of the same people who are today's Cvnt Nation.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25486 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 10:44 am to
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Richt had a major life event with cancer in the family and he should have stepped away. Its not personal, its an at the time 3.5 million dollar job where the only perspective is winning.


Richt was severely handcuffed by the admin.

Handling scholarships.
Facilities
Staffing

Richt didn't advocate (enough) or coach around those issues. But the issues were glaring. Smart nipped them prior to signing the dotted line.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86428 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 11:25 am to
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Richt was severely handcuffed by the admin.

Handling scholarships.
Facilities
Staffing

Richt didn't advocate (enough) or coach around those issues


I agree but at the same time it's not like richt would be saban even if he did have the green light on anythign he desired. As you mentioend with staffing he was a bit too loyal to people he shouldn't have been, and he never seemed to get Ol recruiting down correctly.

Pruitt is who really started shittalking mcgarity enough to get him to come into the 21st century on spending and kirby is the one that really broke teh door down there. On staffing though kirby isn't infallible, as evidenced by the whole coley debacle.
Posted by RedPants
GA
Member since Jan 2013
5412 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 11:55 am to
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It’s crazy how similar their careers have been.

Agreed. If Kirby coached in the BCS era, he still wouldn't have made it to a natty, much less won one. Richt coaches in the playoff era, he potentially wins 2 in his first 7 years.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25486 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 12:15 pm to
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On staffing though kirby isn't infallible, as evidenced by the whole coley debacle.

Kirby isn't infallible.

But we were "stuck" with Coley. None of the other options had come through. And Coley was next in line for the promotion.
To give Kirby credit, he demoted our best recruiter after 1 season as OC when other options were going to cycle around as available.

It is a results business. Kirby failed to have us ready when Chaney left for the stupid payday by Tennessee. But he righted the ship as quickly as it had turned.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 3:02 pm to
No argument here. Maybe it was providence and worked out for the best with timing. Love Richt as a man but sucked watchinf our peers get it done while we continued to flounder.

I do remember being like these fans of other programs thinking we had a chance when in most cases we were pretty far away and not doing what was necessary to create our own luck.
Posted by lewis and herschel
Member since Nov 2009
11363 posts
Posted on 8/12/22 at 3:09 pm to
Coley was gone pretty quickly once we saw he wouldnt work out. Lardass fricked himself by leaving for ut, he should have stayed for his own career.
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