re: Georgia Governor's Race : Brian Kemp

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Taxes shouldn’t be used as an incentive or weapon. This is just a softer version of the imminent domain issue.

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They aren't.

Millionaires would rather do business in a state with 5% income tax than 12% income tax. We aren't giving them "tax breaks". They just happen to be paying a lower rate than what a more predatory state would charge them.

Agree to disagree.

And without tax incentives, there is literally no incentive available by the government to influence more jobs and work.

Don't get me wrong, I am all for the fair tax. That would eliminate the income tax leverage and loopholes. Other than property tax, it would create the fairest playing ground in a free economy. I would take that in a heartbeat.

But if I have the opportunity for my government to work harder than neighboring state governments to bring in jobs, them I'm going to take it. And guess what state gets the jobs and what state fails to see progreas as the calendar moves along?

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That would be true if all companies were paying the same rate, but the larger corporations are getting a discounted rate, sometimes indefinitely.

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I'm talking about individuals, not corporations.

The actors and actresses and key grip and photographers and assistant directors and foley artists and dolly grip and whatnot, all those people are getting a massive benefit to working Georgia instead of California.


Edit- Personally I don't think corporations should be taxed at all. It's a form of double dipping by the government. A corporation is just a conduit for money flow between individuals. Those individuals are already taxed (unless they are poor).

Honest opinion, I think most on this board are fundamentally similar.

Less government
Less taxes
Less intervention in our lives
Less meddling in a free market

But if that same government offers a hope scholarship, we are taking it.

If that same government offers a tax incentive for a 10 billion dollar industry (and to me, a tax incentive is letting people keep people's money), then I am for it and would think a state was stupid to miss out on that opportunity for a black and white principle of less government involvement in business.

Nations do this all the time
States do this all the time.
Cities do this all the time.
I'm pro business and pro worker. But we have to have the business before the worker gets hired.

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Taxes shouldn’t be used as an incentive or weapon. This is just a softer version of the imminent domain issue.

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This is wrongthink. Politicians know much better than the market which industries need to be penalized or rewarded. Just like they know better how to utilize your property. Its called the common good. Get with the global world now. Atlanta needs delta to be New york, Paris, fair tax eeeert eart eart wuuuurrzzzzz sibbbideeeeee

Tax "incentives" are fake news.

If you have small government, which is what I desire, then you don't have a huge tax burden on (corporations) or individuals.

The companies would follow most efficient government.

Again, not directed at you.

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Personally I don't think corporations should be taxed at all. It's a form of double dipping by the government. A corporation is just a conduit for money flow between individuals. Those individuals are already taxed (unless they are poor).

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Totally agree...and the large connected corps effectively don’t pay taxes due to political influence and a weaponized tax code. It’s the small companies that carry the load.

I’m a huge fair tax proponent if we could get the numbers right.

Plus..I’m not sold on the spin about how much attracting business X to the state will help the overall economy. SC has sold out to all kinds of international businesses and it’s not like we’re reaping any major windfall of revenue. It’s all political BS.

rb, please get Kemp in here.

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I dont want your resume. Never asked for it. I just want to know where you think a government gets the right to do any of these things you people are splitting hairs about way out in the socialist corporatist fringes. As if the mere fact that its our current status quo somehow means there’s nothing more to be said about the legitamacy, morality, or legality of any of it.

This right here is exactly how we got where we are today with socialists calling themeslves conservatives, and statists caling themselves libertarians, and nothing even means what it’s supposed to anymore because nobody even knows what anything means in the first place.

Nobody wants shrink anything down to a rational logical size. Where there’s something called “accountability “. Theyd rather stay lost in the weeds where they can hide their contradictions better.

And if anyone tries to call a timeout and try to get back to the foundational basics......well, it’scondescending to do that apparently. Gip geeeee fuuuuuji

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For the third time, I agree with you. But it's now very clear that you're only capable of pointing out the problem but not offering a detailed solution that actually does get us back to the foundational basics you strive for.

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But it's now very clear that you're only capable of pointing out the problem but not offering a detailed solution that actually does get us back to the foundational basics you strive for.

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The foundational basics i mentioned that you are too important and smart to listen to were to illustrate to you what the real problem is. Not “what im striving for.” Thats just a hilarious assumption youre making.

And the solution is simple. Its to get rid of the cost of all this government that requires so many taxes to fund it....which simultaneously gets rid of their ability to regulate us further out of prosperity than just the taxes do. Just getting rid of all the socialist concepts you people are jerking to in this thread would go a long way in accomplishing just that. Little or no regulations or taxes for all, not just for the ones bribing the politicians or the industries they choose.

But when i try to show you how you say Im being condescending and that you dont need to hear it......while in the next post claiming I wont tell you how......all while making incorrect assumptions that you know what i would say even if i was allowed to do so. Wooopie doo da, ba gep gap gooo aint that somethin.