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Posted on 10/19/25 at 3:04 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 10/19/25 at 3:04 pm to
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Kirby said something about it in a press conference last week. I don’t think he was specific…I was only half arse listening.



Brooks is at all of the press conferences and because he's in the good graces of the program, they always give him the first question. He said in his video today the first time he ever heard about it was on the sideline pre-game.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4627 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 3:20 pm to
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Kirby’s defense relies on fast disciplined LBs who can tackle. We ain’t got those horses this year


Justin Williams and Raylen Wilson fit that description, except for maybe the disciplined part which can be improved over time. The biggest problem I've seen with the linebackers is reading the play and being in the right place. Tackling is a problem too, but that's a problem for nearly every defense.
This post was edited on 10/19/25 at 3:22 pm
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
73310 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 3:41 pm to
RE Tackling-

Kirby said multiple times preseason they don't go as hard at practice like they used to, because of injuries that plagued them last year. He wanted to start the season with the healthiest roster possible. So that would explain some of the "softness". It's a balancing act right? You want tough physical players but you also need them on the field and not in the infirmary.
Posted by cornerstore
Member since Jul 2024
1746 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 3:51 pm to
CJ Allen is a giant liability
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4627 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 3:55 pm to
Not sure why it would be other than health issue or weight gain, but he looks slower and less agile than years past.
This post was edited on 10/19/25 at 3:57 pm
Posted by AllDawgCK
Athens
Member since Oct 2017
2566 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 8:46 pm to
The Everette 75 yard TD was on purpose imo. No way he runs not at the dude but beside him like what lol
Posted by Sleazy_PugLeazy
Member since Sep 2025
751 posts
Posted on 10/19/25 at 9:06 pm to
I’ll eat crow offensively everything is coming together bobo and searles for the last three weeks have been damn near perfect I was wrong and props to coley as well.
Defense the blame goes on Kirby as well because I know he has his hands in it. iDFK what the problem he has if it’s him Schumann Scott idk but it needs to fricking stop or get fixed, it’s not gonna get fixed this year I fully believe it’s week 8 going on 9 what you see is what you get this year and we aren’t getting a lot of it this year.
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
7426 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 7:25 am to
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Tackling is a problem too, but that's a problem for nearly every defense.



Not to the extent ours was Saturday. I don’t remember seeing it that off in a long long time, pre-Kirby it seems like. It’s not a talent issue in my estimation, so hopefully it will get shored up.
This post was edited on 10/20/25 at 7:28 am
Posted by SquatchDawg
Cohutta Wilderness
Member since Sep 2012
19204 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 7:46 am to
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CJ Allen is a giant liability


During the AU film breakdown there were a number of times that Allen beat Wilson (I believe) to the ball on Wilson’s side of the field. Wilson was hesitating and was pulled in by the fake inside handoff and beats to the edge.
Posted by Lexis Dad
Member since Apr 2025
5670 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:21 am to
quote:

I’ll eat crow offensively everything is coming together bobo and searles for the last three weeks have been damn near perfect I was wrong and props to coley as well.

Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
8254 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 6:14 pm to
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As soon as the Brooks Austin film study comes out in a few hours, you'll get a bunch of his opinions on this by a multitude of "expert" posters who quote him without giving him credit.




Right now we have two Ds in one hole on way too many plays. Two Ds in one hole is never a good thing.
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
8254 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 6:16 pm to
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All our linemen ever try to do is bull rush


I've been told that all that our D lineman try to do is long arm the offensive lineman and control them. Which is it?
Posted by Violent Hip Swivel
Member since Aug 2023
8254 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 6:18 pm to
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CJ Allen is a giant liability



The only reason any Dawg fan would think this is if they were expected CJ Allen to be Roquan Smith. Even Roquan overran plays and missed tackles every now and then.
Posted by wdhalgren
Member since May 2013
4627 posts
Posted on 10/21/25 at 1:18 pm to
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Not to the extent ours was Saturday. I don’t remember seeing it that off in a long long time, pre-Kirby it seems like. It’s not a talent issue in my estimation


Deeprig touched on a big part of the reason above. Kirby always ran physical practices but we can't do that now. So even if a player has been in the program for two years as a backup, they don't get nearly as much full speed, live tackling until they become a starter. And now we're steadily losing depth and game experience to the transfer portal, and replacing those losses with players new to our system. Six of our 43 defensive scholarship players this year are transfers. In 2024 it was three of 41, in 2023 it was one of 41, in 2022 it was one of 40.

To look at team experience another way, I use a statistic I call PrNum, which is the number of completed seasons a scholarship player has been enrolled in UGA's football program. (I don't measure actual time because that would require me to look for precisely when every player enrolled in school, but I believe that PrNum pretty accurately captures full years of program exposure.) A true freshman or a 1st year transfer has a PrNum of zero; redshirt freshman, true sophomore, or 2nd year transfer is one, etc. For 2025, our average defensive PrNum is 0.86. In 2024 that number was 1.07, 2023 was 1.20, 2022 was 1.25, 2021 was 1.61. Based on that trend, you can see our level of defensive experience (measured as seasons at UGA) has been steadily decreasing over that time frame. This year's scholarship defensive players have on average three fourths of a season (1.61 - 0.86 = 0.75) less exposure to Kirby's defensive system than the 2021 defense. In 2025, we have zero defensive players with a PrNum of 4 (redshirt seniors), and only 3 defensive players with a PrNum of 3 (true seniors or redshirt juniors): Christen Miller, Jacorey Thomas, Daylen Everette.

Based on the trends above, UGA may have to continue increasing use of the portal to maintain a reasonable level of experience, which means less time (on average) in UGA'S system. That trend in roster turnover makes outcomes less predictable, which is a big reason why a large percentage of games in the SEC (not just UGA games) this year feel like a coin toss.
This post was edited on 10/21/25 at 2:48 pm
Posted by AlaCowboy46
North Alabama
Member since Apr 2025
355 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 8:41 am to
quote:

What in the frick is going on with our defense.


It seems to me there is no one on the field taking charge and making adjustments before the ball is snapped. Think Nolan Smith.
Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
4240 posts
Posted on 10/23/25 at 9:11 am to
Our defense has looked slower this year than I can remember in recent history, notably our LBs. They seem to be waiting to react other than knowing inherently where the play is going. Can't remember the last time I saw them routinely blow up multiple plays in a game. Maybe it's due to pre-game prep/teaching but something is missing there.

Also there has been a overall noticeable drop off in tackling and in-game intensity ever since Kirby shifted his philosophy away from "Bloody Tuesday" mentality. I realize he did it out of health/injury concerns but the old maxim "You play like you practice" still holds true and it's evident the softer practices have negatively impacted play to a significant degree.
This post was edited on 10/23/25 at 9:18 am
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