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Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:45 pm to
Posted by dawgRUSH
New York, NY
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:45 pm to
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think this is due to QH pissing off the coaches last year? He started off strong and then just seemed to disappear from the starting lineup.


He may have been in the doghouse last year but I think the reason why Hall is 1st on the depth chart is because QHicks moved to H-Back/Tight End.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:47 pm to
Hicks apparently has trouble with the playbook. Misses his assignment to much.
Posted by DirtyDawg
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:50 pm to
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Gurley can't run 80+ yards without missing a quarter of football afterwards. He had to get fluids after the run against Buffalo. He's had issues after long runs against Florida, Clemson, and several other teams.



The Buffalo game though was his first game in a Georgia heat.

Florida he had just come back from the LSU ankle injury so his conditioning wasn't top notch

Also didn't he tweak his ankle on that long run against Clemson?

I wouldn't say he can't handle long runs, consider the circumstances surrounding them. He has broke some big runs where he didn't need fluids or anything after them. I.E. Vanderbilt 2012.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:51 pm to
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Misses his assignment to much.


I think he has an agility issue (similar with other guys like Richard Samuel and Bruce Figgens).

When you whiff on a block when lined up against Shaq Wiggens, it comes to question his ability to get to his man and seal him.

Some of it might be assignment. But I think it's a bigger issue of just struggling with the level of athleticism that his position commands (i.e. not whiffing on a defender who sees him coming).
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:57 pm to
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Also didn't he tweak his ankle on that long run against Clemson?

I wouldn't say he can't handle long runs, consider the circumstances surrounding them. He has broke some big runs where he didn't need fluids or anything after them. I.E. Vanderbilt 2012.


Clemson was a hamstring issue that caused him to miss half of the game.

Read your post, Dirty.
You're making excuses about a guy who continually makes a great run and has to excuse himself for at least a quarter afterward.

And there was no 80 yard play against Vandy. His longest run was 29 yards, and he sat the rest of the game afterward (13 touches prior to that run which finished his day with Malcome/Samuel closing out the 4th quarter).
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 7:58 pm
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 7:59 pm to
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His longest run was 29 yards, and he sat the rest of the game afterward (13 touches prior to that run which finished his day with Malcome/Samuel closing out the 4th quarter).

UGA was up by 50
Posted by meansonny
ATL
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:12 pm to
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UGA was up by 50


You brought up the game. Not me.
He had 13 runs and 1 reception.
Longest play from scrimmage was 29.

Not quite the same thing as what I was saying (unless you can tell me why you brought it up).
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:13 pm to
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You brought up the game. Not me.
He had 13 runs and 1 reception.
Longest play from scrimmage was 29.

Not quite the same thing as what I was saying (unless you can tell me why you brought it up).

I didn't bring up anything. Just pointing out why he actually sat out the 4th quarter.
Posted by GaBassFisher92
Dublin, Georgia
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:19 pm to
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think this is due to QH pissing off the coaches last year? He started off strong and then just seemed to disappear from the starting lineup.


Hicks was big against South Carolina. The fullback position itself disappeared at times last season, especially in the 2nd half of the season.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 8:59 pm to
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I didn't bring up anything


My bad. That was dirty.

Still to my point... he sat a quarter after his longest touch of the game.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25568 posts
Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:01 pm to
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Hicks was big against South Carolina.


He's big as an offensive weapon.
He's a liability in the blocking scheme.
That's why he keeps getting passed up by a walkon.

It's nice to have 1 - 3 touches per game, but protecting Gurley, Mason, & Marshall the other 70 snaps is pretty important, too.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:07 pm to
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he sat a quarter after his longest touch of the game.

The circumstances of him sitting out kind of undercut your premise though. He was going to sit out regardless of any fatigue issues that may have been going on.
Posted by meansonny
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:33 pm to
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The circumstances of him sitting out kind of undercut your premise though. He was going to sit out regardless of any fatigue issues that may have been going on.


It doesn't undercut the premise at all.
You're absolutely right that we were ahead and sat him.

I'm absolutely right that after Gurley performs feats of inhuman strength and ability, he's a no-go for a bit (often a quarter plus).
I can't blame the guy for being superman on a play but needing to recharge his thighs/lungs/fluids.
It actually makes sense to me (maybe not others). The point being that he's not the guy you want returning a kick for a touchdown, because there's a good chance he won't be ready for the next offensive series (or two).
This post was edited on 7/9/14 at 9:34 pm
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:36 pm to
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I'm absolutely right that after Gurley performs feats of inhuman strength and ability, he's a no-go for a bit (often a quarter plus).
I can't blame the guy for being superman on a play but needing to recharge his thighs/lungs/fluids.
It actually makes sense to me (maybe not others). The point being that he's not the guy you want returning a kick for a touchdown, because there's a good chance he won't be ready for the next offensive series (or two).


I agree with pretty much all of this. The only thing I would say is that him sitting out against UF and Clemson had more to do with injuries than fatigue imo. (UF was fatigue brought on by being in bad shape)
Posted by meansonny
ATL
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Posted on 7/9/14 at 9:44 pm to
If it happens once, it's an excuse.

If it happens over and over, it's SSDD.
I can't do the things he does. So there's no way in hell that I'm going to get upset because he's (as you call it) fatigued or out of shape when our offense still needs him out there.
I don't expect 2014 to be any different. It's going to be hot. He's going to be banged up. He's going to cramp. He's going to need fluids. He might have knee, hammy, and ankle issues.
It's football in the SEC. I'd be broken in half (high school spring football shredded my knee for a full season... I can't complain because a kid sits a half against a few teams and misses a few other games altogether.)
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
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Posted on 7/10/14 at 7:41 am to
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I'm absolutely right that after Gurley performs feats of inhuman strength and ability, he's a no-go for a bit (often a quarter plus).


Do you even watch the games? Please show me what quarter+ long stretches Gurley missed in 2012. Oh wait, you can't. He also had several very long runs that year. You know why he didn't miss time "for a quarter plus" after these plays? Because he was healthy. I know, really far out concept there.

The first frickin quarter of the first game against clemson he had a deep thigh bruise due to a helmet shot. Your thigh is kinda important as a RB. Despite that, he still played like a beast the next game against SC. He was also on his way to a potentially record setting day against LSU before the high ankle sprain. His first game back, which any normal person wouldn't have even been close, was against UF, and obviously on those long runs he had to take a break after because of his lack of conditioning the past month. You know, which is normal.


To insinuate that he's another Crowell or knowshon that would do something big then have to come off the field is absolutely retarded. That may have happened occasionally in 2013, because the man came back from an injury that would've put most RBs out for the year. In 2012 when he was fully healthy, he didn't do that at all.
Posted by Sanford&MunSon
T'Ville
Member since Jan 2013
2901 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 8:30 am to
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came back from an injury...


Two injuries to be precise. The pulled hammy against clemson and the high ankle sprain against lsu. Both are nagging injuries that can take a while to heal and no doubt effected his conditioning.
Posted by Chris_topher
Member since Sep 2012
7674 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 8:31 am to
Question: When the fck is Chubb gonna get in if Gurley never sits out?

Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26173 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 8:32 am to
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Question: When the fck is Chubb gonna get in if Gurley never sits out?



When we're up by 30 going in to the 4th quarter against Tech.
Posted by Chris_topher
Member since Sep 2012
7674 posts
Posted on 7/10/14 at 8:38 am to
Thanks for the feedback.
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