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re: CONFIRMED: UGA / AU series to be moved up earlier in the schedule starting 2020
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:09 pm to deeprig9
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:09 pm to deeprig9
Umm our schedule is loaded with early big OOC and divional games.
2019: Vandy opener, 2 snoozers, Notre Dame, off week, Tennessee, SCAR, Kentucky, off week, Florida, Mizziou, Auburn, T a&m, and tech
2020: UGA has Florida in Jacksonville the end of October and Tech the end of November. Home games with ULM, ETSU, Auburn, Tennessee, and Vandy. Away games against Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, Alabama.
Why should we plug Auburn into an early season game that could/ will affect an off week. As of now we have off weeks before the Florida game and usual division rival...as this year it will be Tennessee. Screw Auburn...we’ve owned them but losing to a cross rival doesn’t mean shite if we win the division. I’d rather have two off weeks for division games than play Auburn early because “it’s not fair to play UGA and Bama away every other year”.
It’s a simple fix....just give UGA 2 home games in a row and UGA and Bama aren’t on the same rotation every year. Screw trying to accommodate Auburn and mess our schedule up. No reason to have an off week against a cupcake OOC the first month of the season.
2019: Vandy opener, 2 snoozers, Notre Dame, off week, Tennessee, SCAR, Kentucky, off week, Florida, Mizziou, Auburn, T a&m, and tech
2020: UGA has Florida in Jacksonville the end of October and Tech the end of November. Home games with ULM, ETSU, Auburn, Tennessee, and Vandy. Away games against Kentucky, Missouri, South Carolina, Alabama.
Why should we plug Auburn into an early season game that could/ will affect an off week. As of now we have off weeks before the Florida game and usual division rival...as this year it will be Tennessee. Screw Auburn...we’ve owned them but losing to a cross rival doesn’t mean shite if we win the division. I’d rather have two off weeks for division games than play Auburn early because “it’s not fair to play UGA and Bama away every other year”.
It’s a simple fix....just give UGA 2 home games in a row and UGA and Bama aren’t on the same rotation every year. Screw trying to accommodate Auburn and mess our schedule up. No reason to have an off week against a cupcake OOC the first month of the season.
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Posted on 2/20/19 at 2:40 am to Damn Good Dawg
quote:thats ok its still gonna happen.. just earlier
I’m not a fan. I enjoyed watching Auburn getting Eiffel towered to end the year
Posted on 2/20/19 at 7:41 am to deeprig9
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Can someone please articulate exactly what McGarity is doing that is wrong?
bowing down to this totally unncessary slap in the face of history simply to make things easier on AU?
Kirby and all of us want things to get back "right" and fix that back to back trip we had in 12/13. I get that, but it's been said for years that it's not possible until the next batch of schedules come out for the 2025-onwards season. Moving the game up 2 months doesn't accomplish that. Some people have said it helps uga because we dont' have to end the season going to auburn and tech...LOL. As if traveling an hour down the road to whoop up on a team we constantly own is any kind of factor in this at all. There is zero logical sense for UGA to make this move at all, yet mcgarity seems like he's not only receptive but going along with amking it happen.
AU obviously wants the change because they don't want to have to end with UGA/Bama in the final 3 weeks. I certainly don't blame them for that, but that's their problem not anybody else's. AU's schedule has LSU in September, usually some slate of west teams and an east team in october, then the gauntlet at the end. The very best thing they could do for themselves is to spread those 3 games out 1 per month, which only serves to benefit them.
They've already scheduled 11/14/20 for UMASS at home. They damn sure aren't gonna play us then bama in back to back weeks, meaning we're likely playing them 11/7 the week after florida. What sense does this make to you rig from a UGA perspective? I don't even know how they are allowed to schedule them that weekend that is typically ours, I mean when we have umass come up on the schedule I"m sure there would be some problems if we tried to schedule them thanksgiving weekend.
This game has bene played mid-november since WW2 and our spineless AD is going to move it just to make auburn happy. See the problem here? And I bet you what will happen is it'll move to october and the official stance will be "well it only moved up a few weeks, and october weather is still typically cool and crisp so it'll still feel like a ga/auburn game". But in reality all it's done is scrunch our UT/AU/UF games all close together adn give AU major breathing room to make their schedule easier to navigate. Can you imagine if we swapped them and vandy on this year's schedule? We'd go UT/AU/LSU/UF. Not to mention that in the coming decade we've got games against Clemson/Texas/UCLA/etc early in the season which makes the move even more non-sensical. It's utter horseshite and there isn't one, single, solitary reason from a UGA-persepctive that we shoudl have even listed to the first phone call longer than a few minutes.
This post was edited on 2/20/19 at 7:44 am
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:08 am to WG_Dawg
quote:Pretty much nailed it. We are changing what has been one of our best traditional games to help Auburn out. Even if it's to get 2 home games in a row (which it's not like this is the only way to do that), it's complete bullshite.
WG_Dawg
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:37 am to K9
This sucks. We're playing nice because Auburn has gone full snowflake by pissing and moaning that life isn't fair. Well it wasn't fair when we had to play at your boring arse village two years in a row, so shut up and suck it up, buttercup.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:43 am to WG_Dawg
you think kirby didnt sign off on this?
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:44 am to K9
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you think kirby didnt sign off on this?
Probably, but he also signed off on that fake punt, so there's precedent for bad decisions.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:48 am to K9
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you think kirby didnt sign off on this?
coaches have very little say in this kind of thing. And I'm not kirby's friend so I have zero clue what he did or didn't sign off on, but I know it makes no sense whatsoever from our perspective.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:55 am to WG_Dawg
My understanding was that we are moving Auburn up and moving UT back. So it's more of a swap than a front load and shouldn't affect any bye weeks. This should also eliminate the problem of playing AU and GT away back to back (which I agree could have been corrected by having AU play two at UGA in a row).
While I love hurting AU at the end of the year, I also like the idea of beating them early when they may be more vulnerable.
While I love hurting AU at the end of the year, I also like the idea of beating them early when they may be more vulnerable.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 8:59 am to Broncothor
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My understanding was that we are moving Auburn up and moving UT back. So it's more of a swap than a front load and shouldn't affect any bye weeks. This should also eliminate the problem of playing AU and GT away back to back
1) AU and UT are both teh saem (either home or away) for us each year. So switching out a mid-november away game at AU for a mid-november away game at UT doesn't accomplish anything
2) We dont' ever play AU/GT back to back anyway. We typically have either UK or a cupcake in between (same as AU has a cupcake between us and bama).
Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:00 am to WG_Dawg
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bowing down to this totally unncessary slap in the face of history simply to make things easier on AU?
Kirby and all of us want things to get back "right" and fix that back to back trip we had in 12/13. I get that, but it's been said for years that it's not possible until the next batch of schedules come out for the 2025-onwards season. Moving the game up 2 months doesn't accomplish that. Some people have said it helps uga because we dont' have to end the season going to auburn and tech...LOL. As if traveling an hour down the road to whoop up on a team we constantly own is any kind of factor in this at all. There is zero logical sense for UGA to make this move at all, yet mcgarity seems like he's not only receptive but going along with amking it happen.
AU obviously wants the change because they don't want to have to end with UGA/Bama in the final 3 weeks. I certainly don't blame them for that, but that's their problem not anybody else's. AU's schedule has LSU in September, usually some slate of west teams and an east team in october, then the gauntlet at the end. The very best thing they could do for themselves is to spread those 3 games out 1 per month, which only serves to benefit them.
They've already scheduled 11/14/20 for UMASS at home. They damn sure aren't gonna play us then bama in back to back weeks, meaning we're likely playing them 11/7 the week after florida. What sense does this make to you rig from a UGA perspective? I don't even know how they are allowed to schedule them that weekend that is typically ours, I mean when we have umass come up on the schedule I"m sure there would be some problems if we tried to schedule them thanksgiving weekend.
This game has bene played mid-november since WW2 and our spineless AD is going to move it just to make auburn happy. See the problem here? And I bet you what will happen is it'll move to october and the official stance will be "well it only moved up a few weeks, and october weather is still typically cool and crisp so it'll still feel like a ga/auburn game". But in reality all it's done is scrunch our UT/AU/UF games all close together adn give AU major breathing room to make their schedule easier to navigate. Can you imagine if we swapped them and vandy on this year's schedule? We'd go UT/AU/LSU/UF. Not to mention that in the coming decade we've got games against Clemson/Texas/UCLA/etc early in the season which makes the move even more non-sensical. It's utter horseshite and there isn't one, single, solitary reason from a UGA-persepctive that we shoudl have even listed to the first phone call longer than a few minutes.
This... All of it. At this point, as nice as it would be to get 2 home games and shift the schedule back to what it was balance wise... that pill has already been swallowed. This change, which in no way benefits UGA, will present a scheduling PITA for us indefinitely...
We aren't getting the return home game out of this for another 5 years or so (if ever), so why in the everliving frick would we entertain moving things around to our own detriment so that a rival school who already got the better end of a one way deal can benefit again.
McGarity doesn't seem to have the stones and/or spine to stand up when it matters.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:05 am to fibonaccisquared
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why in the everliving frick would we entertain moving things around to our own detriment so that a rival school who already got the better end of a one way deal can benefit again.
My mind is blown that they've alrady got umass penciled in for the '20 season in the spot we would normally take. Like how in the world can they just go rouge and do that? I would think that, using our schedule as an example, that halloween weekend, mid-november, and thanksgiving weekend would be already spoken for due to our traditional games in those spots.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:17 am to WG_Dawg
Coaches have little say in scheduling? Lol okay. If you think Mcgarity agreed to this without consulting the head coach and getting his approval that's absurd.
Crazy thought, but maybe we're not privy to all the information that the AD has.
Crazy thought, but maybe we're not privy to all the information that the AD has.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 9:22 am to K9
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Coaches have little say in scheduling?
Yes? If kirby came out publicly, as well as in closed door meetings, and said "I want us to open every season with our rotational west opponent and play SC to end the year" it doesn't mean it would happen. It would not happen, there is 0% chance it would happen. Just because a coach says or wants something doesn't really mean anything unless the other team's coaches, his AD, the other school's AD, the TV networks, and every other team affected by the switch is all ok with it.
Kirby wanting the AU game to move means little, if he even does want it.
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maybe we're not privy to all the information that the AD has.
Obviously we aren't in the meetings, but there is no benefit to this from a logical or team perspective. I'm sure money is inovlved somehow since everything these days is, but moving AU to sept/oct only helps AU.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 10:10 am to WG_Dawg
This might be my favorite quote from the article:
So they want something that essentially solely benefits them... but want other teams to be willing to give something up for them to get it... If McGarity agrees and/or even just sits idly by without taking a public stance against it, it should be grounds for termination with cause. If the SEC forces our hand, fine... but don't sit there and try and sell it as a benefit for the university.
The problem with changes like this is that they are rarely temporary either... It would be one thing if we agreed to do this strictly for one year when Auburn had road/road UGA and Bama... with written agreement to return the home/home that we lost from expansion... but making this change in 2020 with the expectation that it continues at least for 5 years... likely makes that move permanent... which is horseshite.
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"It can be done," Greene said at the time. "It’s a matter of will it be and what are willing to give up and other teams willing to give up to make that happen and if there’s a benefit to them. If we can find win-wins, then it’ll make it a heck of a lot easier for us."
So they want something that essentially solely benefits them... but want other teams to be willing to give something up for them to get it... If McGarity agrees and/or even just sits idly by without taking a public stance against it, it should be grounds for termination with cause. If the SEC forces our hand, fine... but don't sit there and try and sell it as a benefit for the university.
The problem with changes like this is that they are rarely temporary either... It would be one thing if we agreed to do this strictly for one year when Auburn had road/road UGA and Bama... with written agreement to return the home/home that we lost from expansion... but making this change in 2020 with the expectation that it continues at least for 5 years... likely makes that move permanent... which is horseshite.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 10:16 am to fibonaccisquared
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"It’s a matter of will it be and what are willing to give up and other teams willing to give up
This is laughable considering AU isn't giving up one gd thing. They get to space out their 3 hard games and in our place in November will now get another cupcake or like arkansas. That's quite a sacrifice.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 10:25 am to fibonaccisquared
quote:When else have we seen him do much different though?
f McGarity agrees and/or even just sits idly by without taking a public stance against it, it should be grounds for termination with cause.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 11:06 am to WG_Dawg
The point about kirby is that if UGA was holding this move up, mcgarity doesn't cave without getting approval from kirby (not whatever strawman you're building), unless the SEC stepped in and forced UGA. And if that's the case, the whining in this thread is over nothing.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 2:48 pm to K9
McGarity needs to ask himself one question when making decisions: "Is this in the best interest of UGA?"
If the answer is no, then stop negotiations and move about your day until they bring something better to the table.
It seems like he's doing this just to do Auburn a solid. That should be a fireable offense.
If the answer is no, then stop negotiations and move about your day until they bring something better to the table.
It seems like he's doing this just to do Auburn a solid. That should be a fireable offense.
Posted on 2/20/19 at 2:54 pm to VADawg
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McGarity needs to ask himself one question when making decisions: "Is this in the best interest of UGA?"
If the answer is no, then stop negotiations and move about your day until they bring something better to the table.
It seems like he's doing this just to do Auburn a solid. That should be a fireable offense.
This exactly. When this was first floated to him there is no real, go-to answer for how this helps UGA. Even if it doesn't hurt us necessarily and is a wash, it massively benefits auburn. Not to mention is a slap in the face to decades of history and tradition. He should have laughed and hung up.
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