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re: Brooks Austin Film Breakdown- UGA loss to Ole Miss
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:43 pm to Peter Buck
Posted on 11/12/24 at 9:43 pm to Peter Buck
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Saban never fired someone because their dumb fans didn’t like him
Simple question. No right or wrong answer, but if Monken was still here do you think the Offense looks better? I absolutely do. Let me be clear. I'm not trashing Bobo. He's not bad, he's just not elite. I absolutely despise Kiffin, but he coached offensive circles around Bobo with a severely depleted offense. He, like Monken, is savvy enough to scheme around his teams weaknesses and exploit the defense. Bobo can put points on the board when all the stars line up and he can do so rather consistently. The problem is the stars don't always line up and in my opinion, in those instances, in both his previous tenure and this one, he hasn't shown me that he can prevail. I may be completely wrong, but that's my perception of reality.
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Posted on 11/13/24 at 1:04 am to SemperFiDawg
Monken laid some eggs and had some generational offensive talent we don’t have now. Bobo learned under him the entire time he was here. We also didn’t have the scope of miscues we are seeing now. If you watch the film, most plays we are in a spot to win. We just seem to shoot ourselves in the foot. Damn near every drive. At the end of the day, that falls on coaches, but to be fair, some it falls on the players. It’s easy to target the QB or the OC and I would if I didn’t watch the films and see and understand that the issues run deeper than the easy targets. The change we need is 11 guys doing their job on every play.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 6:13 am to SemperFiDawg
Hypothetically, I tend to agree but for some additional reasons.
To be blunt, we had better players under Monken and I think if we still had Monken, we might have better players now. Here's why.
Monken was an NFL level coach.
Monken had a reputation for preparing players for the NFL.
I think we might have been able to recruit better players who would want to play for Monken and maybe not so much for Bobo.
Also, Monken might have had a candid conversation with Kirby that went something like this:
Hey, Kirby, our OL recruiting isn't looking good and our OL don't seem to be performing at a championship level. I recommend replacing Searels with a better OL coach. Here's who I recommend.
Translation: The quality of the product on the field is obviously a combination of the quality of the coaches, their coaching and the players they recruit. It appears we have issues with both aspects.
Even if we manage to beat Tennessee, I think we have not looked good in enough games, the losses and several of the wins, to suggest to even the casual observer that we do not have a championship level team.
To be blunt, we had better players under Monken and I think if we still had Monken, we might have better players now. Here's why.
Monken was an NFL level coach.
Monken had a reputation for preparing players for the NFL.
I think we might have been able to recruit better players who would want to play for Monken and maybe not so much for Bobo.
Also, Monken might have had a candid conversation with Kirby that went something like this:
Hey, Kirby, our OL recruiting isn't looking good and our OL don't seem to be performing at a championship level. I recommend replacing Searels with a better OL coach. Here's who I recommend.
Translation: The quality of the product on the field is obviously a combination of the quality of the coaches, their coaching and the players they recruit. It appears we have issues with both aspects.
Even if we manage to beat Tennessee, I think we have not looked good in enough games, the losses and several of the wins, to suggest to even the casual observer that we do not have a championship level team.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:31 am to GurleyGirl
No OC can overcome bad QB play.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 9:40 am to GurleyGirl
Ole Miss has 2 losses. ND lost to Northern Illinois, Bama has 2 losses and lost to Vandy, we beat Texas handily and have the hardest SOS other than possibly Bama.
Are we an underdog to BYU, Penn State, Indiana or BYU?
Are we an underdog to BYU, Penn State, Indiana or BYU?
Posted on 11/13/24 at 11:30 am to Violent Hip Swivel
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Why in the world are we not able to recruit better than that on the OL?
Simply put, Matt Luke fricked us being lazy. Reasons unknown, Kirby allowed it.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 11:36 am to Peter Buck
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The change we need is 11 guys doing their job on every play.
Fair enough. We obviously had that the last 3 years so it's a very valid point. Raises the question, "Why not this year?" It appears to be an across the board problem that effects both sides of the ball. What accounts for that? How do you have that consistency for 3 years and then BOOM, it's gone.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 11:41 am to SemperFiDawg
Different team leaders. Maybe they are getting pissed at all the turnovers and Beck is pointing fingers, like he did before
Posted on 11/13/24 at 11:42 am to GurleyGirl
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To be blunt, we had better players under Monken
Did we? Again I go back to a 3 star Ladd, a freshman Bowers and a scout team QB in Stetson. I reserve the right to be wrong and I certainly may be, but I'm gonna guess "star wise" we have more talent on this team than those. Like I said, I may be wrong, but that's my guess. Coming into the season our OL, Receiving Corp and Backs were all supposed to be stellar. Granted we have lost out due to injuries and dismissals, but it would be interesting to count the "star rating" from that 2021 team and compare it to this team's current roster.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 11:51 am to SemperFiDawg
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To be blunt, we had better players under Monken
Did we?
yes, we unequivocally did.
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I go back to a 3 star Ladd, a freshman Bowers and a scout team QB in Stetson. I reserve the right to be wrong and I certainly may be, but I'm gonna guess "star wise" we have more talent on this team than those.
you're 100% looking at their star rating which is irrelevant. I'm lookin at how good of a football player are they when on the field playing for UGA. QB is the only position you can say we are definitely better/more talented at now than then, whihc is funny beucase we got a whole lot better QB play out of stetson than now. 2023 carson was fine though. OL, TE, RB, WR- all exponentionally better in 21/22 than now.
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Coming into the season our OL, Receiving Corp and Backs were all supposed to be stellar.
We "hoped" they would be but preseason is a crapshoot. not to mention
-2 of our top RBs are out long term. Our starter has been banged up a few weeks so we're relying heavily on a TFr and a former walk on
-1 of our top WRs was dismissed in preseason. Another top WR was booted a quarter of the way in .
-OL has been banged up almost all season
Posted on 11/13/24 at 12:30 pm to SemperFiDawg
I agree with WG that what matters most is how the players we recruited pan out regardless of recruiting ranking but even if you look at just the recruiting rankings it's a mixed bag.
One comparison that might be helpful are the On3 Team Rankings which ranks the entire roster in a given year, not just the recruiting rankings for particular year.
On3 Team Rankings
If you compare the team rankings for 2021, 2022 and 2024 and look at the 4star/5star per cent (the number of 4 and 5 star players on the team divided by the total number of players) it looks like this rounded off:
2021 - 85%
2022 - 70%
2024 - 79%
So yea, our current team looks better than 2022 but the 2021 team was better than both in terms of the recruiting quality of the entire team.
But if you look even closer, most of our highly ranked players are on defense rather than offense and that seems to have caught up with us this season particularly on the OL.
And yea, couple that with the injuries and dismissals of key players, it's not hard to understand why we find ourselves in this position.
It's also easy to see that without an athletic QB, in Bennett, who had Bowers and McConkey to throw to, our OL is more of an issue than it might have been otherwise if we had a mobile QB and better receivers.
One comparison that might be helpful are the On3 Team Rankings which ranks the entire roster in a given year, not just the recruiting rankings for particular year.
On3 Team Rankings
If you compare the team rankings for 2021, 2022 and 2024 and look at the 4star/5star per cent (the number of 4 and 5 star players on the team divided by the total number of players) it looks like this rounded off:
2021 - 85%
2022 - 70%
2024 - 79%
So yea, our current team looks better than 2022 but the 2021 team was better than both in terms of the recruiting quality of the entire team.
But if you look even closer, most of our highly ranked players are on defense rather than offense and that seems to have caught up with us this season particularly on the OL.
And yea, couple that with the injuries and dismissals of key players, it's not hard to understand why we find ourselves in this position.
It's also easy to see that without an athletic QB, in Bennett, who had Bowers and McConkey to throw to, our OL is more of an issue than it might have been otherwise if we had a mobile QB and better receivers.
Posted on 11/13/24 at 11:09 pm to GurleyGirl
Someday you will find me, caught beneath the landslide.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 5:43 am to deeprig9
This post was edited on 11/14/24 at 5:52 am
Posted on 11/14/24 at 10:10 am to GurleyGirl
Posted on 11/14/24 at 10:29 am to GurleyGirl
Where were you when we were getting high?
Posted on 11/14/24 at 11:00 am to K9
Slowly walking down the hall faster than a cannonball.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 2:03 pm to K9
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Where were you when we were getting high?
I was partying hard with the best/worst of them.
The 70's was a great time to be in college. It was a wild ride to say the least.
Streaking was a fad back then.
I was going to my history class in LeConte Hall and 2 guys and a girl came running naked down the hall.
Some guy parachuted naked onto the football field.
We were driving to Florida and a bunch of naked people crossed the interstate headed for a lake that was on the side of the road.
Quick story.
My roommate and I got an invite to a Halloween Party in Atlanta.
When we arrived it was literally the House on the Haunted Hiill. muhhahahaaa
We were greeted by Lurch at the front door and there wasn't a decent light on in the whole place; only black-lights.
There was a Trick Or Treat cigarette girl with one of those trays with multiple compartments; the tray was held up by a strap around her neck.
The compartments contained a bunch of different types of drugs: joints, hash, uppers, downers, mushrooms, mescaline, LSD, etc., you name it she had it.
It was a big old house with a bunch of rooms and people were having sex in several of the rooms.
Needless to say it was a crazy night.
This post was edited on 11/15/24 at 5:09 am
Posted on 11/14/24 at 9:51 pm to GurleyGirl
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There was a Trick Or Treat cigarette girl with one of those trays with multiple compartments; the tray was held up by a strap around her neck.
They were called "Camel Girls". Good money for a college girl without having to take your clothes off and let people spit in your a-hole for a tip.
Georgia is losing to Tennessee on Saturday, also. I hate it.
Posted on 11/14/24 at 10:58 pm to deeprig9
Finally got the stomach to watch the whole video. My takeaway is our OL couldn’t match their stunts and it’s probably a combination of players that don’t know what they’re supposed to do and shitty OL coaching.
Pretty fricking embarrassing. OL has to be a focus moving forward because nothing works if they don’t work.
Pretty fricking embarrassing. OL has to be a focus moving forward because nothing works if they don’t work.
Posted on 11/15/24 at 11:53 am to deeprig9
I'm not sure I can stomach watching it, but I may. I saw one overhead video where they blew up one run play. It was almost comical. There were like 4 UGA o lineman that missed blocks. It was almost like they all went to the 2nd level to block a lb. 4 Ole Miss guys just came in and creamed ET.
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