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re: 2022 Recruiting Thread (EJ Lightsey is a Dawg!)
Posted on 8/3/21 at 3:08 pm to mikehoncho69
Posted on 8/3/21 at 3:08 pm to mikehoncho69
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Also, Griffin Scoggs OL out of Grayson will be committing to the Dawgs today most likely.
Griffin started O-line for Buford's 5A state championship team a soph- then transferred to Grayson. From what I understand his offer list would look a lot different but there are/ were grade concerns. Kid can play and is a bit nasty.
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Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:14 pm to WorkinDawg
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Also, Griffin Scoggs OL out of Grayson will be committing to the Dawgs today most likely.
Griffin started O-line for Buford's 5A state championship team a soph- then transferred to Grayson. From what I understand his offer list would look a lot different but there are/ were grade concerns. Kid can play and is a bit nasty
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Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:30 pm to meansonny
took scoggs away from tech 
Posted on 8/3/21 at 7:32 pm to superdawg
"He didn't have the grades"- tech fan.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 8:38 am to deeprig9
reading good things about this kid. 247 composite has him ranking at 1000, but I'm sure he will be within 500 by the end of the cycle.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 9:24 am to DawgsLife
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For receivers speed is not even the most important part. (Assuming the receiver does not run like molasses on a cold wintery morning) Route, separation and hands all play a big part, not to mention blocking and a certain amount of hand fighting. Speed is important, and it is exciting, but without the other attributes it is just a fast guy running around on the field that is useless.
A big part of route separation is speed. Bell doesnt sound like the type of WR who is beating a DB off the line. Nor is he separating on a post or go route.
What he can do is separate when the ball is in the air (leaping and body control). Comparison that i have seen is Cager/Holloman. We need those guys too.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:14 am to meansonny
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A big part of route separation is speed.
To a degree, yes. But let's face it, route running plays a bigger part. I mean, the CBs the receivers are going against are going to be close in speed to the receivers.
quote:Off the line? No. On the right route? yes. A lot of it is the right route against the wrong coverage. It is also how well a receiver disguises and adjusts his route according to that DB.
Bell doesnt sound like the type of WR who is beating a DB off the line. Nor is he separating on a post or go route.
quote:I agree. A nice mixture of speed guys and big bodies guys are always preferable.
What he can do is separate when the ball is in the air (leaping and body control). Comparison that i have seen is Cager/Holloman. We need those guys too.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:22 am to DawgsLife
I can agree to disagree about the type of receiver that he is on film.
He doesnt separate. In the SEC, CBs are faster and will close quickly after any cuts. He doesnt separate in high school. He probably wont develop that in college. But he can go up and grab the ball. He would have been Fromm's besf friend.
He doesnt separate. In the SEC, CBs are faster and will close quickly after any cuts. He doesnt separate in high school. He probably wont develop that in college. But he can go up and grab the ball. He would have been Fromm's besf friend.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 10:52 am to meansonny
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I can agree to disagree about the type of receiver that he is on film.
Maybe we are missing each others poitns? I have not watched Speer's film, or Bell's for that matter. My argument is that speed is not the do all end all for a receiver.
quote:Which is why you try to get your QBs to throw the ball so it arrives when the receiver is coming out of his cut. That is when you get any kind of separation.
In the SEC, CBs are faster and will close quickly after any cuts.
Like I said, I think we are misunderstanding each others points. I do believe you need both. Speed demons and big bodied receivers who can go up and fight for the ball. They are not exclusive of each other. They can both exist and thrive in an offense.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 11:08 am to DawgsLife
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Like I said, I think we are misunderstanding each others points. I do believe you need both. Speed demons and big bodied receivers who can go up and fight for the ball. They are not exclusive of each other. They can both exist and thrive in an offense.
We probably are commenting past one another.
We obviously need guys like Burton (speed/separation).
My point is that Bell is more of the big bodied, physical receiver.
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Which is why you try to get your QBs to throw the ball so it arrives when the receiver is coming out of his cut.
I think you are oversimplifying it.
Bell wouldnt be open on those against a CB with good technique. Same as Cager/Wims. More than the timing, perfect spot placement from the QB would be the key for completions and first downs.
Posted on 8/4/21 at 12:37 pm to meansonny
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My point is that Bell is more of the big bodied, physical receiver.
I haven't seen his tape, but from what I have heard others say about him I think you are probably spot on with what you are saying.
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I think you are oversimplifying it.
I am, no doubt. People (not you, necessarily) don't fully grasp everything that goes into making a pass play work.
quote:Again we agree. I think we feel the same way...we just kind of missed the point the other was making. The jump ball receivers are going to go up and fight for the ball. Typically they are taller, heavier and have stronger hands. The speedy guys usually try to blow past defenders and get open with good route running and typically have "softer" hands.
Bell wouldnt be open on those against a CB with good technique. Same as Cager/Wims. More than the timing, perfect spot placement from the QB would be the key for completions and first downs.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 9:45 am to FirstCityDawg
I haven’t had time this off-season to do the research and keep up with recruiting like I normally do. And I’m sure I’m not the only one in this boat.
Can anyone please catch us up to speed?
Why are we only ranked 6th?
Why did we have so many high ranked kids decommit?
Why are there virtually no decent OL’s on our prospect list?
Why is nearly every WR prospect 6’0 180 lbs?
Where should we end up when all is said and done? Because I remember prior to this off-season folks here were suggesting this might be Kirby’s best class ever, but what happened??
Why are so many GA kids going elsewhere?
Here is the 247 prospect list: LINK
Who are sure things but just haven’t pulled the trigger yet, and who do we have really good chances with?
Thanks!
Can anyone please catch us up to speed?
Why are we only ranked 6th?
Why did we have so many high ranked kids decommit?
Why are there virtually no decent OL’s on our prospect list?
Why is nearly every WR prospect 6’0 180 lbs?
Where should we end up when all is said and done? Because I remember prior to this off-season folks here were suggesting this might be Kirby’s best class ever, but what happened??
Why are so many GA kids going elsewhere?
Here is the 247 prospect list: LINK
Who are sure things but just haven’t pulled the trigger yet, and who do we have really good chances with?
Thanks!
Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:22 am to BeefDawg
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Why are we only ranked 6th?
We have fewer commits than some teams that are ahead of us, and some highly ranked players still haven't committed.
quote:Bear has family pulling him to stay in Texas.
Why did we have so many high ranked kids decommit?
Some we started to slow play for various reasons. NIL has influenced a couple others.
quote:Because this is a down year for OLinemen, mainly. Also some others want to come in and play immediately. WE have a pretty stacked OLine room right now.
Why are there virtually no decent OL’s on our prospect list?
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Why is nearly every WR prospect 6’0 180 lbs?
This is incorrect.
quote:We will probably still be in top3. After seeing some highly ranked guys in person the staff felt like they were over ranked. We began to slow play some. A couple of those have gone to camps and are really showing out and we are trying to get back in it for them.
Where should we end up when all is said and done? Because I remember prior to this off-season folks here were suggesting this might be Kirby’s best class ever, but what happened??
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Why are so many GA kids going elsewhere?
We feel like we will get back in it for a couple. Some we felt were over ranked. A variety of reasons.
Remember this.....the rankings are going to be somewhat skewed this year because of covid. Shortened seasons, lack of camps etc last year have the recruiting services and coaching staffs scrambling right now. It is what it is. I hope I answered your questions. If you need more clarification ask, and I will try.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:30 am to BeefDawg
It's June. We're after the big dawgs. Most of those wait until closer too signing day. Chill out.
Posted on 8/5/21 at 11:46 am to BeefDawg
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Why are we only ranked 6th?
Let's just all reflect on where we are as a program when you can say this^^^. Good days for Dawgs!
Posted on 8/5/21 at 1:19 pm to Porter Osborne Jr
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It's June
Posted on 8/5/21 at 2:54 pm to BeefDawg
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Why are we only ranked 6th?
August. Look at the average per recruit and let me know how we are doing. That will telp you where we are trending nationally.
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Why did we have so many high ranked kids decommit?
Some, we walked away from them. Seeing them in person told us they werent who they said they were.
Some, walked away from us. NIL/Coaches/Family all pulling multiple directions. It isnt over until their LOI gets turned in, though.
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Why are there virtually no decent OL’s on our prospect list?
We are stacked from the last 2 classes. We are bringing in guys who know they will have to bust their tail for 2 years to earn PT. Top prospects look at depth charts and go where they are needed most.
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Where should we end up when all is said and done?
Most likely top 3. We may save room for portal transfers which could keep us down to 4th or 5th (but not likely).
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Why are so many GA kids going elsewhere?
We recruit nationally and can only bring in 23 or 24 this class. When we prioritize a kid from texas, good georgia talent goes elsewhere.
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Because I remember prior to this off-season folks here were suggesting this might be Kirby’s best class ever, but what happened??
I never saw that. I read best DL class ever and that appears to have fizzled (still could be a great haul, but we may have to earn it with field of play).
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:14 am to meansonny
seeing some excellent news on other boards. Mykel Williams might be de-committing and coming to UGA which would likely pull some other guys in like Christen Miller. This could easily be a top 3 class.
This post was edited on 8/6/21 at 9:18 am
Posted on 8/6/21 at 9:28 am to mikehoncho69
Seems like this guy "coach coop" is really stepping it up. Kids seem to love the guy. May have filled in the void that Nick Williams left.
LINK
LINK
Posted on 8/6/21 at 12:58 pm to mikehoncho69
Just below the tweets there is an interesting interview with JT Daniels. It is very much worthwhile to watch.
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for sharing!
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