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re: 2019 Recruiting Class (NSD - Today; 5* WR George Pickens flips to UGA from Auburn)
Posted on 10/24/18 at 1:20 pm to TideSaint
Posted on 10/24/18 at 1:20 pm to TideSaint
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Kirby just offered Taulia Tagovailoa.
Can't blame the man for taking a shot, but I think that ship is sailed at this point...
ETA: Don't think I realized Taulia was 2019. In my head, thought he was one year further out. That's a strange optic move if nothing else... Going for another QB in 2019 is one thing... going for *that* QB would seemingly do a couple of things:
1) Signal that you're not confident that you'll have both Fromm AND Fields in 2019
2) Possibly concern the currently committed QB enough to look elsewhere, even without getting the commitment.
Kirby generally doesn't make shitty moves on the recruiting trail, so I'm going to assume he knows more than me about whatever is going on here, but that doesn't give me warm and fuzzies...
TS: Does Alabama have another QB they are targeting at all? Is there any chance Taulia might not make it into your class? I'd be shocked, but just figured it's worth asking.
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Posted on 10/24/18 at 1:47 pm to TideSaint
I mean do y’all really need both? Isn’t it bad enough we have to suffer from the current one?
Posted on 10/24/18 at 1:50 pm to fibonaccisquared
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Signal that you're not confident that you'll have both Fromm AND Fields in 2019
I don't think UGA can be confident of that
Posted on 10/24/18 at 1:55 pm to fibonaccisquared
We have another QB committed for 2019.
Bear Bryant's great-grandson.
Bear Bryant's great-grandson.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 1:57 pm to Crowknowsbest
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I don't think UGA can be confident of that
Right, but all it seemingly does is throw fuel on the fan debate on Fields/Fromm, and if you're going hard at another QB, one would assume it's not because the younger supposed phenom is likely the one to start going forward. It's not a matter of whether they are or aren't, but rather that they are *signaling* that they aren't. It's basically an acknowledgement that Fields may not be thrilled with the current situation, whereas before it was more of an assumption based on third party comments from Haselwood and of course just plain deductive reasoning.
That's all I'll say about it here, as I don't want to bring the Fields/Fromm debate back to this thread, but it's certainly concerning when it starts to bleed into the realm of recruiting.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 1:58 pm to TideSaint
Gotcha, but not a super highly rated guy or anything... No slouch, but also likely was a mandatory offer given the connection?Posted on 10/24/18 at 2:01 pm to fibonaccisquared
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it's certainly concerning when it starts to bleed into the realm of recruiting.
It has to bleed into recruiting. However it turns out post-spring/summer, you have to prepare as if you won't have one of them.
Fromm isn't a 3-and-done guy physically, so Fields isn't going to stay unless he wins the job relatively soon. If Fields takes the job, Fromm really doesn't have a choice if he wants to play any more meaningful snaps in college.
I don't think Smart has a choice on recruiting another QB.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 3:03 pm to fibonaccisquared
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before it was more of an assumption based on third party comments from Haselwood
I don't mean to dredge this back up, but was this a thing? Did Haselwood say this?
Posted on 10/24/18 at 3:08 pm to Crowknowsbest
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It has to bleed into recruiting. However it turns out post-spring/summer, you have to prepare as if you won't have one of them.
I agree with this.
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Fromm isn't a 3-and-done guy physically, so Fields isn't going to stay unless he wins the job relatively soon. If Fields takes the job, Fromm really doesn't have a choice if he wants to play any more meaningful snaps in college.
This is what makes it so interesting. I am wondering if it isn't a signal that Kirby is about to turn it over to Fields, and thinks Fromm will leave. The next week or so will be interesting. If Fields begins to get significantly more playing time, then it is a clear signal he is about to take over. If it continues to be 5-6 snaps a game....I would think Fields would have to be doing really poorly in practice for them to allow him to just walk.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 3:09 pm to S1C EM
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I don't mean to dredge this back up, but was this a thing? Did Haselwood say this?
The only things I remember is he was saying Georgia was not opening up the offense enough. I think some are just thinking he is friends with Fields so he must feel like that.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 3:11 pm to DawgsLife
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The only things I remember is he was saying Georgia was not opening up the offense enough.
THAT I knew. I don't equate that to "Fields says he's not happy". Just conjecture brought up by the thinkers out there, I guess.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 3:11 pm to S1C EM
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I don't mean to dredge this back up, but was this a thing? Did Haselwood say this?
Not directly. He commented on opening up the offense, giving Justin a chance to throw the ball, etc. Couple that with the fact that just prior to his decommitment he spent a ton of time with Justin on campus and it's people trying to connect the dots a bit. Thus the "assumption" bit.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 7:33 pm to fibonaccisquared
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so I'm going to assume he knows more than me about whatever is going on here
4 qbs is an ideal number for a roster mgmt perspective.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 9:09 pm to djsdawg
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4 qbs is an ideal number for a roster mgmt perspective.
The odds that we could bring taulia in and have 4 scholarship QBs in 2019 without signing 3 this class are so low that it is laughable. I'm not questioning offering a second 2019 QB... It's this specific QB that is concerning.
Posted on 10/24/18 at 10:26 pm to fibonaccisquared
I wouldn't be too concerned with this or any recent QB offers, including the 3* OK state commit from San Clemente (great, hidden gem of a California beach town, btw. Very underrated).
If we look at Kirby's first three classes by position, some trends seem to emerge that inform us on the staffs general strategy. One that has been pretty consistent is the mass offering of QBs, of which most are more "come visit and throw for us" than "commit right now" type.
Regarding current commits, I think Plumlee is likely to stay on the commit list. The opportunity for him to play baseball as well as slide into a different position if needed hedges our bet there.
Going into the year, I thought there was a good chance that both current QBs would be on the roster in 2019. But, I also couldn't have imagined how badly the staff was going to mishandle the situation through half of the season, so here we are.
As a previous poster stated, if Fromm maintains the job (assuming his performance level remains stagnant), Fields will almost certainly transfer, and it would be hard to blame him. If Fields takes the job for one reason or another, Fromm would most likely leave.
Given all that, we are looking at options for another QB. It is a very weak class across the country at QB, so I doubt we reach in someone we don't think could contribute.
If we look at Kirby's first three classes by position, some trends seem to emerge that inform us on the staffs general strategy. One that has been pretty consistent is the mass offering of QBs, of which most are more "come visit and throw for us" than "commit right now" type.
Regarding current commits, I think Plumlee is likely to stay on the commit list. The opportunity for him to play baseball as well as slide into a different position if needed hedges our bet there.
Going into the year, I thought there was a good chance that both current QBs would be on the roster in 2019. But, I also couldn't have imagined how badly the staff was going to mishandle the situation through half of the season, so here we are.
As a previous poster stated, if Fromm maintains the job (assuming his performance level remains stagnant), Fields will almost certainly transfer, and it would be hard to blame him. If Fields takes the job for one reason or another, Fromm would most likely leave.
Given all that, we are looking at options for another QB. It is a very weak class across the country at QB, so I doubt we reach in someone we don't think could contribute.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 5:53 am to fibonaccisquared
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Gotcha, but not a super highly rated guy or anything... No slouch, but also likely was a mandatory offer given the connection?
He is a decent 4 star rated about what Tua's brother is rated.
LINK /
If they are close in talent Tua's brother won't play.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 4:11 pm to bigdawg7780
I just heard from a non-credible source, that a credible source has said that Emery either has already, will soon, or might decommit...
Seriously, I have no idea, but there's a thread about it with no links. If anyone has actual knowledge, plop it in here.
Wouldn't surprise me in the least to lose him to LSU. Wouldn't surprise me in the least to have him decommit then remain uncommitted until signing day. Always was going to be tough to hold onto once LSU showed a resurgence this year. Just didn't help matters to lose that game and not run the ball in front of him. Still a ways to go no matter what.
Seriously, I have no idea, but there's a thread about it with no links. If anyone has actual knowledge, plop it in here.
Wouldn't surprise me in the least to lose him to LSU. Wouldn't surprise me in the least to have him decommit then remain uncommitted until signing day. Always was going to be tough to hold onto once LSU showed a resurgence this year. Just didn't help matters to lose that game and not run the ball in front of him. Still a ways to go no matter what.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 4:13 pm to fibonaccisquared
The Rivals poster that is posting about it is generally very credible. Big loss, but at least it would be to LSU at a position we’ll be ok.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 4:18 pm to Dawgsontop34
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a position we’ll be ok.
Uh?? We’ll lose Holyfield, Herrien, and potentially Swift next year. That leaves Zamir and Cook. We have no idea what kind of RB Zeus will be after tearing both knees. If they don’t land a big time RB in the ‘18 class, that means we’ll be relying on true freshman to come in to take meaningful snaps.
Posted on 10/25/18 at 4:23 pm to Glory, Glory
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RB in the ‘18 class
19, just to keep things clear.
And yeah... I am not sure I'd say we're "ok" at the position without landing one of the 4 backs we had our eyes on this year. I haven't honestly paid much attention to RB recruiting this year though either once we landed Emery's commitment. Not sure if we've been after anyone else or stayed on guys. If true, it would definitely be a pretty big hit to the class.
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