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re: 2017 UGA Recruiting Thread (commits, offers, visits, etc.)
Posted on 12/21/16 at 2:23 pm to DawgRff
Posted on 12/21/16 at 2:23 pm to DawgRff
IMO Recruiting is not just stars, but best fit for your coaches ideology/coaching style is very important as well.
I do feel that winning in college football is 75% recruiting, 20% coaching, and 5 % luck
I do feel that winning in college football is 75% recruiting, 20% coaching, and 5 % luck
This post was edited on 12/21/16 at 2:25 pm
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Posted on 12/21/16 at 2:26 pm to DawgRff
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The way I look at it, Hugh Freeze 2012 through 2015 record with 1 great recruiting class was 35-18. When all those 5*'s left, 5-7.
I completely agree with this.^^^
I feel like its the difference between a mustang and a prius. Does it really matter who the driver is? The driver knows when to hit the pedal, where to guide the car, and when to stop, BUT without that badass under the hood you end up last in the race.
I get that you have to stay on top of your players and coaches so they don't take a game off, but the recruiting is key.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 2:31 pm to Sandwich
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IMO Recruiting is not just stars,
I know but look at that 2013 class. It wasn't like they had 5*'s in just a couple of positions. They were spread across the board. The only thing that kept them from doing it real big was depth
Posted on 12/21/16 at 2:35 pm to DawgRff
Oh I agree...it takes multiple great classes to build a solid team...
Take Bama...they literally will see little to no drop off next year even with new coaches...next man up.
Of course, what Bama is doing right now is unprecedented.
Take Bama...they literally will see little to no drop off next year even with new coaches...next man up.
Of course, what Bama is doing right now is unprecedented.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 2:37 pm to Sandwich
Next year we should have plenty of depth. Hardly lose anyone. Should be at least a 10 win season. Especially since we draw MSST from the west.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 2:39 pm to Sandwich
How many seasons of number one classes does Bama have? It started in '08 right?
Here is the proof!
Edit:From Saturday Down South
For this particular series, Saturday Down South’s references to recruiting rankings are to 247Sports.com’s industry composite team ranking from 2010-14, and Rivals.com’s team rankings from 2002-09 before 247Sports did the composite ranking.
YEAR >>>>>>>NAT. RANK
2014 >>>>>>>>>>1
2013 >>>>>>>>>>1
2012 >>>>>>>>>>1
2011 >>>>>>>>>>1
2010 >>>>>>>>>>5
2009 >>>>>>>>>>1
2008 >>>>>>>>>>1
2007 >>>>>>>>>>10
2006 >>>>>>>>>>11
2005 >>>>>>>>>>18
2004 >>>>>>>>>>15
2003 >>>>>>>>>>49
2002 >>>>>>>>>>30
Separate site shows BAMA at No. 2 in 2015 and No. 1 in 2016. I'm headed to the gym but chew on this for a while. If our recruiting continues to climb at a high level, it directly correlates to wins.
Here is the proof!
Edit:From Saturday Down South
For this particular series, Saturday Down South’s references to recruiting rankings are to 247Sports.com’s industry composite team ranking from 2010-14, and Rivals.com’s team rankings from 2002-09 before 247Sports did the composite ranking.
YEAR >>>>>>>NAT. RANK
2014 >>>>>>>>>>1
2013 >>>>>>>>>>1
2012 >>>>>>>>>>1
2011 >>>>>>>>>>1
2010 >>>>>>>>>>5
2009 >>>>>>>>>>1
2008 >>>>>>>>>>1
2007 >>>>>>>>>>10
2006 >>>>>>>>>>11
2005 >>>>>>>>>>18
2004 >>>>>>>>>>15
2003 >>>>>>>>>>49
2002 >>>>>>>>>>30
Separate site shows BAMA at No. 2 in 2015 and No. 1 in 2016. I'm headed to the gym but chew on this for a while. If our recruiting continues to climb at a high level, it directly correlates to wins.
This post was edited on 12/21/16 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 12/21/16 at 3:05 pm to Sandwich
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IMO Recruiting is not just stars, but best fit for your coaches ideology/coaching style is very important as well.
I agree that it is both.
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I do feel that winning in college football is 75% recruiting, 20% coaching, and 5 % luck
I would put it at 45% Recruiting, 35% Coaching and 20% luck, though. It's been a while since a team didn't get some kind of lucky break to make it to the championship game. Alabama just might do it this year, though....but that is because they overwhelmingly have a talent edge.
This post was edited on 12/21/16 at 3:16 pm
Posted on 12/21/16 at 3:09 pm to AirDawg
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How many seasons of number one classes does Bama have? It started in '08 right?
Here is the proof!
Edit:From Saturday Down South
For this particular series, Saturday Down South’s references to recruiting rankings are to 247Sports.com’s industry composite team ranking from 2010-14, and Rivals.com’s team rankings from 2002-09 before 247Sports did the composite ranking.
YEAR >>>>>>>NAT. RANK
2014 >>>>>>>>>>1
2013 >>>>>>>>>>1
2012 >>>>>>>>>>1
2011 >>>>>>>>>>1
2010 >>>>>>>>>>5
2009 >>>>>>>>>>1
2008 >>>>>>>>>>1
2007 >>>>>>>>>>10
2006 >>>>>>>>>>11
2005 >>>>>>>>>>18
2004 >>>>>>>>>>15
2003 >>>>>>>>>>49
2002 >>>>>>>>>>30
Separate site shows BAMA at No. 2 in 2015 and No. 1 in 2016. I'm headed to the gym but chew on this for a while. If our recruiting continues to climb at a high level, it directly correlates to wins.
You could probably add another 1.5-2 recruiting classes in Bama's #'s, which would also be ranked #1, given their willingness to part ways with non-contributors.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 3:13 pm to AirDawg
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it directly correlates to wins.
Not always. Look at Tennessee this year. There is no reason at all they should not have won the East, much less lose 4 games. Yes, I know they had a lot of injuries, but we are talking about a division that has been weak and the East was probably weaker than at any other time in history. For that matter, the SEC is weaker than it has been in 10 years, probably.
Without good coaching great talent can't get the job done. A really good coach can elevate talent, but he can only elevate it so far. Great talent with inept coaching can bring a good team down to mediocre level.
This post was edited on 12/21/16 at 3:15 pm
Posted on 12/21/16 at 3:14 pm to AirDawg
LSU recruiting
2013-5
2014--3
2015-4
2016-3 (coach fired)
What's the correlation there ?
2013-5
2014--3
2015-4
2016-3 (coach fired)
What's the correlation there ?
Posted on 12/21/16 at 3:46 pm to DawgsLife
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and 20% luck, though
Us Dawg fans sure as hell know what the other side of "luck" feels like.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 3:50 pm to WorkinDawg
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Us Dawg fans sure as hell know what the other side of "luck" feels like.
Yes, we do!
Posted on 12/21/16 at 4:41 pm to DawgsLife
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Not always. Look at Tennessee this year. There is no reason at all they should not have won the East, much less lose 4 games. Yes, I know they had a lot of injuries, but we are talking about a division that has been weak and the East was probably weaker than at any other time in history. For that matter, the SEC is weaker than it has been in 10 years, probably.
Without good coaching great talent can't get the job done. A really good coach can elevate talent, but he can only elevate it so far. Great talent with inept coaching can bring a good team down to mediocre level
Tennessee and UGA are not good examples because of attrition.
Getting high recruit freshmen on the field and struggling as underclassmen is only good IF they stay on the team. Look at all of the freshmen DBs we have churned out that never contributed as upper classmen. Many of the ones who have hung around were not the high recruits (Davis, Mauer, etc..).
Tennessee has had the same issue. They've lost so many guys the past few years that their recruiting success hasn't stuck around as upper-classmen.
Kirby has a ton of momentum right now. But we have to keep these 2015 and 2016 contributors on the team to make any progress in 2017 and 2018.
The best thing I can say about the 4 players returning and not going to the NFL is that we lacked senior leadership in 2016 and those players will bring it in 2017.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 4:50 pm to meansonny
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attrition
Not only that but you could argue that if your rankings are based on * counts - and your highest rated recruits are lumped into certain positions (i.e. RB and QB) then you may not be getting the full benefit of that highly rated class.
Unless some of those RB's and QB's can block for themselves or catch their own passes then it doesn't matter how highly they were ranked.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 4:55 pm to SquatchDawg
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Unless some of those RB's and QB's can block for themselves or catch their own passes then it doesn't matter how highly they were ranked
Especially if they're getting crushed in the backfield.
This post was edited on 12/21/16 at 4:56 pm
Posted on 12/21/16 at 4:55 pm to SquatchDawg
Yeah. QBs are almost always overranked. And you can only play 1 of them. That is a built in 4 star in our recruniting every year where 2 out of 4 (sometimes 3 out of 5) are busts.
Posted on 12/21/16 at 5:05 pm to meansonny
When players transfer from Alabama, its processing... at other schools, it is attrition... right?
Posted on 12/21/16 at 5:10 pm to Peter Buck
Rivals posters (not insiders) thinks we are in it for Akers.
Tons of sunshine pumpers over there. I think Akers is FSU bound IMO
Tons of sunshine pumpers over there. I think Akers is FSU bound IMO
This post was edited on 12/21/16 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 12/21/16 at 5:25 pm to Hullabaloo
I'm thinking there is like a 0% chance..
Posted on 12/21/16 at 5:32 pm to Hullabaloo
I saw some of those posts too. We were on the outside looking in before Nick and Sony came back, I don't think we are anything more than a hat on the table.
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