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Dr RC
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re: Snow day
Nope they probably wouldn't have helped. They wouldn't have been winterized and would have also likely gone down. Wind power is only 10% of the power in Texas and it's actually performing better than ERCOT anticipated. It's not why we are getting boned no matter how much Perry, Abbott, Cruz and all the other bought and paid for shills try to pretend.

We've already had this happen twice and both times frick all was done to prevent it from happening again. It's only going to get worse as more and more people move to the state causing an even bigger strain on our woefully outdated and under-prepared infrastructure.

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Ten years ago, plunging temperatures forced rolling blackouts across Texas, leaving more than 3 million people without power as the Super Bowl was played outside Dallas.

Now, with a near identical scenario following another Texas cold snap, Texas power regulators are being forced to answer how the unusually cold temperatures forced so much of the state’s power generation offline when Texans were trying to keep warm.

To start, experts say, power generators and regulators failed to heed the lessons of 2011 — or for that matter, 1989. In the aftermath of the Super Bowl Sunday blackout a decade ago, federal energy officials warned the grid manager, the Electric Reliability Council of Texas or ERCOT, that Texas power plants had failed to adequately weatherize facilities to protect against cold weather.

A federal report that summer recommended steps including installing heating elements around pipes and increasing the amount of reserve power available before storms, noting many of those same warnings were issued after similar blackouts 22 years earlier and had gone unheeded.

“We need better insulation and weatherization at facilities and in homes,” said Michael Webber, an energy professor at the University of Texas. “There's weaknesses in the system we haven't dealt with.”


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In truth, virtually all forms of power generation in Texas suffered outages during the cold snap, with early reports showing gas plants sustaining the most failures, Webber said. Early Monday morning, ERCOT issued a news release saying generation “across fuel types” had gone offline, amid reports of wind turbines covered in ice and natural gas wellheads freezing up.

“All the fuels and technologies have their weak point and they’re all failing for different reasons right now,” Webber said. “And it’s happening as demand is setting record highs.”

The outages are likely to turn into a political test for Abbott, who as governor is responsible for appointing the PUC, which has oversight over ERCOT.

In November, ERCOT Manager of Resource Adequacy Pete Warnken assured the Legislature that the agency had studied a range of extreme weather scenarios for the coming winter and had determined, “there is sufficient generation to adequately serve our customers."

But ERCOT only sets best practices for generators, unable to force them to better protect their equipment from the cold. State Rep. Gene Wu described it as,” trusting producers to use profit motive to maintain production.”


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This is 100% b/c those in charge were too cheap to properly set up out infrastructure to deal with a harsh winter. It has zero to do with wind power. Period. End of story. Anyone in our state government telling you that is a liar who needs to get booted the frick out of office b/c they are clearly bought off and give no fricks about you and your family.
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Farmer1906
Houston Astros Fan
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
40640 posts

re: Snow day
Wind power is actually 23% and it is impacting. It’s clearly not the only thing. The state had failures across the board. Wind, Nuclear, and Natural Gas.

You’re right the #1 reason is due to not spending money to properly winterize.


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Texas Weazel
Texas A&M Fan
San Felipe, TX
Member since Oct 2016
7063 posts

re: Snow day
Frozen pipes, no electricity. Haven't lost natural gas thankfully. T-Mobile's lack of generators (or at least ones that work) has also kept me in the dark, so no Internet/Text/Calling. I have a generator, but it doesn't have an inverter to protect electronics (last thing I need is fried TVs and Phones ).

frick this Yankee weather.


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Texas Weazel
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Member since Oct 2016
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re: Snow day
17?! Are you Mexican?

Because you definitely are now! .


ColoradoAg
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re: Snow day
Texas has its own power grid?!?! That is a massive failure with no federal control to keep crap like this from happening


Texas Weazel
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San Felipe, TX
Member since Oct 2016
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re: Snow day
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That is a massive failure with no federal control to keep crap like this from happening

I think people are overreacting. It was more than our Power Grid that failed. Everything froze in a state that never sees temperatures in the teens (nevermind in the single digits). People want to politicize something that is practically a non-partisan issue.

Also, I'm not aware of any federal regulations that force all power plants in the Eastern or Western power grids to winterize. Sure, connecting to one of the other power grids would have helped, but it would also frick us in the event other areas get fricked. I definitely don't want to be in the same power grid that handles California in the summer (summer rolling blackouts anyone?).

The only thing to investigate will be why the rolling blackouts weren't "rolling". Some areas were blacked out for days while others never lost power. What happened there? Moving power every few hours would have definitely helped people turn on their heaters in the middle of the night for a few hours at a time.


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AggieHank86
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Member since Sep 2013
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re: Snow day
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frick snow, frick ERCOT, frick the parts of Texas that never lost power like Highland Park, frick zero regulations on our power grid, and frick all the companies that were too fricking cheap to winterize their fricking infrastructure.
Meh. Our infrastructure is fine for normal Texas winters. A few times per century, something like this will happen. Not worth the cost of preparing for a Wisconsin winter every year.


Farmer1906
Houston Astros Fan
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
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re: Snow day
The probably with that kind of thinking we’ve had 500 or 100 year storms and winters and droughts all in the last handful of years. I think it’s time to prepare for a little more of the extremes.


Warrior Poet
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re: Snow day
It will take away from hurricane preparation funds to do so which I’m not okay with. I have had 4 in 3 years and nearly lost everything twice.


Warrior Poet
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re: Snow day
And the amount of incorrect/ false information rolling around about the power grid is insane.

I do not live in the TX power grid and I can promise you it is no fricking picnic. I would gladly trade an unforeseen winter storm with the daily problems I deal with AND the complete failures I deal with every summer during hurricane season. I’ve gone two weeks without water and power so this is par for the course. If you guys want to jump on this bandwagon be prepared for disappointment.
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Texas Weazel
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San Felipe, TX
Member since Oct 2016
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re: Snow day
I'm no climate change denier, but you also have to consider that climate can also be cyclical. Heck, we didn't even come close to breaking the all-time low temperature record in Houston (which happened in the 1930s).

I'm not saying we should totally disregard climate change. But I also don't think we should go full-retard on
our economy for something we don't completely understand. Am I willing to use green energy? Sure. As long as it costs the same or less than fossil fuels and is as reliable.


Farmer1906
Houston Astros Fan
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
40640 posts

re: Snow day
I’m not talking green energy. I’m talking out in some reasonable measures to make sure we don’t go out during a winter spike. Even if it’s something as simple as waiting until March to put some plants offline.

It does not have to come out of any Hurricane preparedness fund. The government spends/wastes plenty of money of useless crap. This is one of the few functions government should preform.
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Texas Weazel
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San Felipe, TX
Member since Oct 2016
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re: Snow day
But we all know where this rabbit hole ends.

We are experiencing changing climate? Should we winter-proof our infrastructure? Nah. Let's get rid of fossil fuels instead! MOAR GREEN!


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Warrior Poet
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re: Snow day
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It does not have to come out of any Hurricane preparedness fund. The government spends/wastes plenty of money of useless crap. This is one of the few functions government should preform.


So it will come out of TRS then? That’s teacher retirement and health care benefits. I’m being serious. Anytime the state has to generate money for a crisis the ones who suffer are teachers. I’m done robbing them

The other option is to further regulate the providers, which will in turn cause our rates to go up.
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Farmer1906
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The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
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re: Snow day
That’s it. Take away from teacher or hurricanes? I don’t flame to know the deep inner workings of the state budget, but I am sure there is far to be trimmed.


Warrior Poet
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Member since Sep 2011
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re: Snow day
Every time the state has had to generate tax money to pay for serious natural disasters or lack of funding in the past 5-10 years, teachers are the ones who loose out.

A very good follow on Facebook is state rep James White. He has posted a great deal on this. I know him personally and think he’s one of the best politicians our state has. He is no BS on how teachers keep getting screwed. He’s also a former teacher.

Our budgets are a lot tighter than you might think. We get screwed with the state funding portions where federal funds are provided to contribute but not fully compensate. Our state is too big and we have too many people moving here who demand more government. It’s problematic at its core.
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shiner17
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Member since Jul 2017
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re: Snow day
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So it will come out of TRS then? That’s teacher retirement and health care benefits. I’m being serious. Anytime the state has to generate money for a crisis the ones who suffer are teachers. I’m done robbing them



Sounds like we need new leadership if they keep taking from teachers. I admit I don't know much about the state budget.

How about we legalize weed? Not only would we get tax money from it but we would also save money from not having to enforce it (keeping people in jail).


Warrior Poet
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Living Rent-Free in Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2011
7660 posts

re: Snow day
Abbott has done a good job and I hope he is our gov for a long time. He is more transparent than most, responds to public outcry, and tries to cut through red tape where he can.

But there are some not so great republicans in other elected positions that need to be gone like that piece of crap Paxton. And we have a bunch of grandstanding Democrats who love the publicity they get from national media trying to portray Texas as “going blue,” but have never actually done a single thing for their constituents.


Texas Weazel
Texas A&M Fan
San Felipe, TX
Member since Oct 2016
7063 posts

re: Snow day
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He is no BS on how teachers keep getting screwed. He’s also a former teacher

Teachers act a lot like the Police Union. They like to use public sympathy to make noise for their personal benefit. Having worked in the education sector, I can tell you that the laziest/worst teachers are usually the loudest ones. They're also the ones paying union dues (which explains why
they're never fired). For these teachers, it's rarely ever about the kids and almost always about their own personal politics.

The truth is that a lot of the problems we see in our education system start in the home. There is no amount of money that will make up for shitty parenting. Paying teachers six figures isn't going to change that. Shiny new buildings with new iPads isn't going to change that. Paying for teacher assistants isn't going to change that. Some of the smartest cats I met at A&M were home schooled. And the overwhelming majority of Aggies I met came from stable homes with parents that cared.

Unfortunately, it is not politically correct to call it like it is. A lot of parents treat schools like glorified day care centers. And the teacher's union knows this. Instead of calling a spade a spade, they would rather take advantage of our crumbling society and demand more money instead.


Texas Weazel
Texas A&M Fan
San Felipe, TX
Member since Oct 2016
7063 posts

re: Snow day
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Paxton

Absolutely the worst AG we've ever had.
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And we have a bunch of grandstanding Democrats who love the publicity they get from national media trying to portray Texas as “going blue,” but have never actually done a single thing for their constituents.

We know who you're talking about. Sheila Jackson Lee.


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