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Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:34 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
I think I would want to bring in KU. It gives MU their rival, helps hoops, give the SECN a new market, and would give us an easy win if we put in their division.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 10:37 am
Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:38 am to Farmer1906
Yeah I would definitely want KU over Ok State. I think Texas wants the PAC and OU wants the SEC and thus the B1G would make a strong play for KU. Who knows though.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:39 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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That would be my preference, I don't know who the B1G gets in that scenario
A banana in the tailpipe
Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:39 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
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I think BYU to the PAC makes too much sense for them to not do it at that point.
It makes RATIONAL sense. It doesn't make IRRATIONAL sense though, and this problem is an irrational one. The PAC, being conference made up of west coast, leftist institutions, will not tolerate a Mormon school with strict conservative rules among them.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:41 am to Farmer1906
Yeah my preference would be OU/KU if we have to take from the B12. It would give the west some balance with a shite team, but we would likely go to a pod system after that.
So pods could be:
A&M/LSU/OM/Auburn
Miz/OU/KU/Arky
Bama/MSU/Vandy/UT
UF/UGA/USC/UK
I dunno how to balance that and maintain some coherent geography. All I would want would be us and LSU and maybe Arky in the same pod if possible. Just don't make a A&M/OU/Miz/KU pod, that would fricking suck.
So pods could be:
A&M/LSU/OM/Auburn
Miz/OU/KU/Arky
Bama/MSU/Vandy/UT
UF/UGA/USC/UK
I dunno how to balance that and maintain some coherent geography. All I would want would be us and LSU and maybe Arky in the same pod if possible. Just don't make a A&M/OU/Miz/KU pod, that would fricking suck.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 10:43 am
Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:45 am to cokebottleag
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Here's a question for the board: let's say when the GOR ends and everyone jumps ship, will a school like OU really stay out in the cold if a conference says "we will take you, but not OSU"? Conferences like the B1G or SEC can afford to be choosy, if OU gets an offer that says, "we want you and KU, no riders, take it or leave it" will they really follow OSU into the mountain west?
Only really Texas and OU have options. Some of the other programs might end up in other Power 5 conferences, but only OU and Texas have the prestige to "conference shop" as it were.
Texas won't make the first move at the end of the GOR. The GOR ends in 2024 and the LHN contract goes through 2030. The brand new Texas leadership has made it clear the LHN is still a priority for them for some reason ("only WE have one!") so I don't see Texas making the first move. ESPN isn't going to cancel the LHN because realignment means even more money across the board for rights fees and they are going broke as it is.
Therefore if OU makes a move it won't be because "everyone jumps ship." It would be OU jumping ship to escape the marginalization of the Big 12. They would be a first mover, the one who would be blamed for the death of the Big 12.
In that case suddenly the OSU problem is much bigger, because politically OU can't destroy the Big 12 and screw over OSU just to get the extra brand value of the SEC or B1G (for example). If everyone was jumping ship then the Oklahoma politicians won't get in the way of letting OU do what it needs to do. But striking first to kill a (somewhat) viable conference just because the SEC has been cleaning their clock in recruiting? That won't fly.
The only way the Big 12 goes into a full blown Mexican standoff is if Texas changes its mind about the LHN (very unlikely) or Kansas gets an invite to the B1G it decides to take (even though then THEY have a KSU problem). Most likely OU will be made to see the reality of this situation, and might even sign a GOR until 2030 to maximize revenue in the conference championship negotiations with networks.
I don't see anything significant happening in realignment until the 2030s, and by then maybe TV changes so much (and ratings decline so much) that all of college football makes sensible moves (like the NFL-like super conference Longhorns dream of) to maximize the post-bubble value. If the playoffs go to 8 games (VERY likely) the Big 12 can easily survive.
This post was edited on 11/1/16 at 10:49 am
Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:46 am to cokebottleag
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A&M/LSU/OM/Auburn
Miz/OU/KU/Arky
Bama/MSU/Vandy/UT
UF/UGA/USC/UK
I don' think you can get away with breaking up the Iron Bowl & the Egg Bowl.
It'll be tough, but I think it'd be more like like this.
A&M/OU/MU/KU - Big 12
Ark/LSU/OM/MSU - SECW
Bama/Aub/UT/Vandy -SECC
USCe/UGA/UF/UK -SECE
And I would hate our yearly in division games.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:49 am to Farmer1906
Has anyone seen proposed yearly scheduling with pods? Would you have three permanents in the others and then rotate one from each for 9 games?
Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:49 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
I think the Pac12 tries to pull off Texas/OU by opening up spots for OSU and either Tech or TCU to keep political parties happy.
Big10 will go all in hard on Kansas and Texas imo since they are both AAU schools and drastically expand the Big10 Network footprint. Texas going anywhere is tricky with the LHN though.
SEC still probably wants to head east if possible. Any chance an ACC school like NC State or Virginia Tech deflects when all this realignment kicks back up? If not, I think they try to take both OU and OSU.
West Virginia to ACC would probably be a lock due to geography. Then they would just need to get Notre Dame to become a permanent member.
Big10 will go all in hard on Kansas and Texas imo since they are both AAU schools and drastically expand the Big10 Network footprint. Texas going anywhere is tricky with the LHN though.
SEC still probably wants to head east if possible. Any chance an ACC school like NC State or Virginia Tech deflects when all this realignment kicks back up? If not, I think they try to take both OU and OSU.
West Virginia to ACC would probably be a lock due to geography. Then they would just need to get Notre Dame to become a permanent member.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:50 am to Farmer1906
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A&M/OU/MU/KU - Big 12
Ark/LSU/OM/MSU - SECW
Bama/Aub/UT/Vandy -SECC
USCe/UGA/UF/UK -SECE
And I would hate our yearly in division games.
Swap MU with Arky and I'm not happy, but it's less awful.
The idea would be you have a permanent rival in all pods, plus 1 rotating game.
So 3 games with your pod, 3 games with perm opp in other pods, and 2 games rotating between the rest.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:52 am to cokebottleag
It would be ridiculous if we go to 16 team conferences and still play 8 conference games but I guess it wouldn't be surprising
the non power four teams would basically become FCS schools so OOC games would just be a disaster
Posted on 11/1/16 at 10:58 am to ShaneTheLegLechler
I would think you could play.
3 division games (3)
1 other division (4)
1 perm rival based on what division your playing.
EX:
A&M/OU/MU/KU - Big 12
Ark/LSU/OM/MSU - SECW
Bama/Aub/UT/Vandy -SECC
USCe/UGA/UF/UK -SECE
When the Big 12 plays the SECE A&M perm rival is LSU(SECW)
When the Big 12 plays the SECC A&M per rival is USCe(SECE)
When the Big 12 plays the SECW A&M perm rival is Vandy (SECC)
This way we keep it at 8 games so you can still get your cupcakes in and another power 5 team. It keeps cross division rivalries for most year. You rotate enough to play all the divisions.
3 division games (3)
1 other division (4)
1 perm rival based on what division your playing.
EX:
A&M/OU/MU/KU - Big 12
Ark/LSU/OM/MSU - SECW
Bama/Aub/UT/Vandy -SECC
USCe/UGA/UF/UK -SECE
When the Big 12 plays the SECE A&M perm rival is LSU(SECW)
When the Big 12 plays the SECC A&M per rival is USCe(SECE)
When the Big 12 plays the SECW A&M perm rival is Vandy (SECC)
This way we keep it at 8 games so you can still get your cupcakes in and another power 5 team. It keeps cross division rivalries for most year. You rotate enough to play all the divisions.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 11:00 am to Farmer1906
And just go all in with a 11 game conference schedule where you play your own division plus 2 other divisions. In this scenario I would want all the SEC champ and runner up automatically given a CFB berth. You'd have to expand to 8 or 6 in the CFP.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 1:59 pm to Farmer1906
Read this and try to soak in how delusional the dip shite longhorns are


Posted on 11/1/16 at 2:53 pm to Warrior Poet
The supporters view is 100% correct IMO and Charlie should stay
Posted on 11/1/16 at 2:57 pm to ShaneTheLegLechler
4 more years! 4 more years!
Posted on 11/1/16 at 3:16 pm to dabadger
The next round of realignment is going to be a clusterfrick. But one thing is for sure; Iowa State, Kansas State, TCU, and Baylor are all fricked. They either bring no TV markets or their fan base is too small.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 3:18 pm to Texas Weazel
TCU & BU might mean something to someone who doesn't have any of the Texas market.
Posted on 11/1/16 at 3:32 pm to Farmer1906
Until they realize those schools are very regional within the state (nobody in Houston or San Antonio cares for Baylor or TCU) and that their ratings are non existent when they suck. The same applies for SMU and Houston. The schools can achieve decent ratings in the markets they are in, but only when they are winning. When they lose a game or two, fans don't watch or show up. Just look at how many empty seats there were this weekend at TCU and at Houston.
The ACC would have a hard time selling a network to Texas cable companies with TCU and Baylor on their portfolio. They aren't A&M or Texas.
The ACC would have a hard time selling a network to Texas cable companies with TCU and Baylor on their portfolio. They aren't A&M or Texas.
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