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Posted on 6/13/18 at 9:22 am to Raid05
Posted on 6/13/18 at 9:22 am to Raid05
She even testified at his hearing and asked the board to give him leniency, because she said she didn’t believe that he put it in her butt “with malice”
Sorry but I’m still chuckling, she’s either got mental issues or she’s just looking for $$$
Sorry but I’m still chuckling, she’s either got mental issues or she’s just looking for $$$
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Posted on 6/13/18 at 9:39 am to Old Sarge
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She made the allegation 8 months after the incident and admitted everything they did together was consensual except him putting it in her butt.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 9:48 am to TbirdSpur2010
she gave him a hummer AFTER he PIIHB
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 9:55 am
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:17 am to Uncle Gunnysack
And I promise you that a lawyer is not posting that online unless it is truly all documented in her own sworn testimony
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:18 am to Uncle Gunnysack
makes it look better for him now
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:21 am to WestCoastAg
Yeah, he’s guilty of being impolite and promiscuous, but that’s really about it
I don’t know what she thought she’d accomplish putting the University on blast, unless she just got drunk and posted that on Facebook but she’s going to regret it the more the real details get out
I don’t know what she thought she’d accomplish putting the University on blast, unless she just got drunk and posted that on Facebook but she’s going to regret it the more the real details get out
Posted on 6/13/18 at 10:34 am to Old Sarge
What happened here is basically the difference between men and women in terms of how we’re wired mentally for arousal.
Almost all women, aside from turbo-skanks, don’t go around like men: constantly horny, willing to bang anything, and down for whatever in terms of kink level.
HOWEVER, once you get a woman properly “revved-up”, they do become ultra horny and much, much, much more “down to clown” than their normal walking-around everyday self would ever be.
So this girl got super aroused while fooling around with this hot swimmer and in her heightened state of arousal was waaaaaaay more accepting of freaky shite.
Then, she thought that, since she had given this dude arse-to-mouth, the least he could do was cuddle her. She was not unreasonable in having that expectation, but him failing to reciprocate with post-couitus cuddles is just rude, not illegal. Finally, when he basically kicked her out afterwards she felt offended and used. She was, but that’s not illegal, either.
The next morning - no longer being in a state of heightened arousal, and having returned to her normal, non-hyper-sexual female mind - she realized she’d given a rando arse-to-mouth and felt very ashamed. What happens with women in these cases is that they’re unable to disentangle having been degraded - during a moment when they were very okay with it - from having been raped.
Almost all women, aside from turbo-skanks, don’t go around like men: constantly horny, willing to bang anything, and down for whatever in terms of kink level.
HOWEVER, once you get a woman properly “revved-up”, they do become ultra horny and much, much, much more “down to clown” than their normal walking-around everyday self would ever be.
So this girl got super aroused while fooling around with this hot swimmer and in her heightened state of arousal was waaaaaaay more accepting of freaky shite.
Then, she thought that, since she had given this dude arse-to-mouth, the least he could do was cuddle her. She was not unreasonable in having that expectation, but him failing to reciprocate with post-couitus cuddles is just rude, not illegal. Finally, when he basically kicked her out afterwards she felt offended and used. She was, but that’s not illegal, either.
The next morning - no longer being in a state of heightened arousal, and having returned to her normal, non-hyper-sexual female mind - she realized she’d given a rando arse-to-mouth and felt very ashamed. What happens with women in these cases is that they’re unable to disentangle having been degraded - during a moment when they were very okay with it - from having been raped.
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 10:39 am
Posted on 6/13/18 at 11:14 am to Old Sarge
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I don’t know what she thought she’d accomplish putting the University on blast, unless she just got drunk and posted that on Facebook but she’s going to regret it the more the real details get out
One of my friends who is a conservative professor (in a different state) researches and writes a lot about campus craziness these days. He has a couple theories, ranging from the girl being spurned - which apparently happened in some cases - to it being some sort of career move for the girl to establish her victim cred.
Again, I'm not making light of sexual assault, but these campus star chambers have no business investigating and punishing alleged crimes. It's just a witch hunt for campus administrators to prove that they're being pro-active.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 11:52 am to WestCoastAg
Butt sex followed by oral sex. Then no goodbye kiss GTFO.
That's clearly rape.
That's clearly rape.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 12:54 pm to Warrior Poet
Reading what the swimmer's lawyer put up it is much more hazy than the "I got raped and nothing was done" claims.
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I mean, if she said she was upset that he wouldn't kiss her... I know it's not really anyone's place to say how a rape victim should react but to want to be kissed afterwards?
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I represented Austin Van Overdam in regards to his A&M student conduct hearings. Out of respect for the alleged victim and Austin, I am not going to divulge the entire contents of these hearings. However, I do want to point out that the panel members heard the following facts directly from the alleged victim:
• That her and Austin’s initial encounter occurred in September of 2015 and was arranged through Tinder;
• That she came over to Austin’s residence voluntarily;
• That she participated in consensual vaginal intercourse with Austin;
• That after having consensual vaginal intercourse, Austin allegedly sodomized her against her will;
• That after being “raped” anally she voluntarily performed oral sex upon Austin to ejaculation;
• That Austin then asked her to leave his residence;
• That she was upset because she wanted to remain at the residence and “cuddle” in Austin’s bed;
• That she was further upset that Austin refused to give her a “goodbye kiss” prior to her departing the residence; and
• That even though she was “raped” in September 2015, she did not report any of these allegations to A&M officials or law enforcement until May 2016.
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I mean, if she said she was upset that he wouldn't kiss her... I know it's not really anyone's place to say how a rape victim should react but to want to be kissed afterwards?
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 12:56 pm
Posted on 6/13/18 at 1:08 pm to Dr RC
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If this dude really was found guilty of rape in one of our own title 9 hearings IDGAF if she didn't go to the cops first. He should be gone.
So not even 24 hours later you decide that you do give a frick and that he should not be kicked off the team?
Posted on 6/13/18 at 1:12 pm to Farmer1906
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If this dude really was found guilty of rape
It doesn't like he was found guilty of rape going by what his lawyer is putting out.
It would be helpful to see the full transcript of the hearing but since it won't be it's going to end up being a debate on the claimed unwanted anal sex.
However, if (again, the if is important) she wanted a goodbye kiss after (willingly?) finishing him off orally and mentioned that it upset her she didn't get one in the hearing it's not a good look for her at all.
Maybe she also said she gave the BJ b/c she was scared and his lawyer is leaving that part out. But the kiss part... Again, it would be really helpful to see the full transcript. (do they even keep those?)
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 6/13/18 at 1:29 pm to Dr RC
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It doesn't like he was found guilty of rape going by what his lawyer is putting out.
Pretty sure he was.
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she alleges that the athlete was found "responsible for rape by the Title IX board and was suspended one semester."
The University said in the statement that "Students found responsible for sexual assaults are given sanctions."
The statement goes on to state that "NCAA rules allow four seasons of competitive eligibility in a five-year period once enrolled. A student athlete can legally declare themselves “red shirting” for a year for any reason, such as illness, family issues, or being suspended for a period of time due to conduct violations;"
According to the accuser's Twitter, the athlete was red-shirted for the 2016-17 season.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 1:33 pm to Farmer1906
Sexual assault and rape are not interchangeable terms. Sexual assault can be anything from unwanted kissing, touching, groping, forced touching and more.
While rape is a sexual assault, not all sexual assault is rape.
She says he was found guilty of rape but his lawyer seems to be implying he was found guilty of sexual assault.
Again, this is why it would be very helpful to see the transcripts of the hearing.
While rape is a sexual assault, not all sexual assault is rape.
She says he was found guilty of rape but his lawyer seems to be implying he was found guilty of sexual assault.
Again, this is why it would be very helpful to see the transcripts of the hearing.
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 6/13/18 at 1:35 pm to Dr RC
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Sexual assault is a serious criminal violation of Texas state law. Sexual assault, commonly known as rape, occurs when a defendant -- intentionally and knowingly -- commits any of a number of prohibited sexual activities listed under Texas' sexual assault law without the victim's consent.
He stuck it in her butt and she claims she didn't want to. How could that be anything other than rape?
Posted on 6/13/18 at 1:36 pm to Farmer1906
On another note, I don't think the mods cared too much for my worst cities to live in thread.
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It got moved quicker than I've seen a thread get moved.
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It got moved quicker than I've seen a thread get moved.
Posted on 6/13/18 at 1:39 pm to Dr RC
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While rape is a sexual assault, not all sexual assault is rape.
what the frick are you talking about
Posted on 6/13/18 at 1:43 pm to Farmer1906
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Specific laws vary by state, but sexual assault generally refers to any crime in which the offender subjects the victim to sexual touching that is unwanted and offensive. These crimes can range from sexual groping or assault/battery, to attempted rape. All states prohibit sexual assault, but the exact definitions of the crimes that fall within the category of sexual assault differ from state to state. The laws share some basic elements, but the structures, wording and scope of sexual assault offenses vary considerably, so always check your local statutes for specific questions.
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This is what you get if you follow the link from what you posted.
Not all sexual assault is rape.
Again, it would be helpful to see transcripts. Did the guy just ram it in there? Did he start to and she stopped him? Was it a slip?
I'm not doing a 180 and saying he is now innocent. Just that it's a little more hazy w/the bit (claiming by his lawyer) of her giving him a BJ and wanting a goodbye kiss after it was all done.
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 6/13/18 at 1:45 pm to Dr RC
Now she is tweeting @inside edition. She also posted the whole letter where he was found not guilty of three other violations.
This post was edited on 6/13/18 at 1:48 pm
Posted on 6/13/18 at 1:46 pm to Dr RC
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Most states have made sexual assault the umbrella term for other crimes, such as rape and unwanted sexual contact. Some states distinguish between crimes involving penetration and crimes involving coerced or involuntary touching, making the former an aggravated or first-degree sexual assault and the latter a lower-level sexual assault.
He stuck it in her butt.
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