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Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 12/7/15 at 5:48 pm to
Damn, that one is kinda personal for me.

Here
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 12/7/15 at 6:26 pm to


Boom got Johnny in his first start and Kyler in his second. But hey, by all means keep melting.
Posted by finestfirst79
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 12/7/15 at 6:33 pm to
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Mark it as a loss boys. USC may suck for the foreseeable future,


Sure, Muschamp may finally get it on offense (before he is fired again). That's somewhat less likely than Spavital figuring it out.
Posted by rugbyag
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 7:29 am to
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You cannot come to that conclusion in the 2 years we have played SC


Here you say 2 meetings isnt enough evidence but..

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Will Muschamp is undefeated against Sumlin in the 2 meetings he's had


Here it is. Which is it?
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 8:58 am to
Muschamp has done it with 2 different teams.
Posted by Warrior Poet
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 9:05 am to
:facepalm:
Posted by rugbyag
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 9:08 am to
I dont see how that means anything. Im not going to use the same arguement as the corndogs in that "we have beaten them x amount of times, they will never beat us" but to assume just because USCe has Muschamp that they will beat us for the forseeable future is stupid. They are a hot mess right now and IF (that is a big if) Muschamp can turn them around, it will take a few seasons.
Posted by greenbastard
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:34 am to
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They are a hot mess right now

Auburn was a hot mess too and they kept us at 10 points during the game. To put that in perspective, those 10 points were the lowest amount of points they allowed all season long. Even San Jose state and Idaho scored more points on them than we did. Last year without Muschamp, we scored the second most allowed points Auburn allowed all season. That's not a trend, that's just obvious facts; Muschamp laughs at our note card offense.
Posted by rugbyag
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 11:57 am to
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Auburn was a hot mess too and they kept us at 10 points during the game. To put that in perspective, those 10 points were the lowest amount of points they allowed all season long.

True fish QB and in-over-his-head OC. Both will, hopefully, be different this next year. Muschamp's first year was with Manziel in his very first game and KK nor Sumlin really knowing what all they could do with him.

Muschamp fielded a pretty awful defense this year so that would lead me to believe that the 1 good game Auburn's defense had against A&M was a fluke and combined with the 2 items listed above proves it.

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Even San Jose state and Idaho scored more points on them than we did.

Transitive propeties yo!

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our note card offense.

No arguement here.
This post was edited on 12/8/15 at 12:01 pm
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 12:21 pm to
Here's Will Muschamp's stats against Kevin Sumlin:

2012 Florida.

First half points allowed - 17
2nd half points allowed - 0

2015 Auburn.

First half points allowed - 3
2nd half points allowed - 7
Posted by rugbyag
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 12:26 pm to
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2012 Florida. First half points allowed - 17 2nd half points allowed - 0

Was this the norm for a KK lead offense? No.

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2015 Auburn. First half points allowed - 3 2nd half points allowed - 7

Was this the norm for an Auburn defense? No.

Each example you listed has extenuating circumstances that helped fulfill those flukes.
This post was edited on 12/8/15 at 12:27 pm
Posted by greenbastard
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 1:21 pm to
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True fish QB and in-over-his-head OC.

Same true fish and and dipshit OC who the week before Auburn managed to score 35 on an SC defense who, just like Auburn, is ranked in the 90s in total defense?

It wasn't a fluke. Muschamp just has a knack for stopping spread offenses like ours, especially when it can fit inside an Office Depot 3x5 note card. Look at his track record while at Texas; outside of the 5-7 season, his defenses were just outside of the Top 10 in total defense. That's an impressive feat when you consider that hat the Big12 is a Spread happy league who scores first and defends later.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 1:45 pm to
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35 on an SC defense


28. Donovan Wilson scored the other TD
Posted by greenbastard
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 2:44 pm to
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28. Donovan Wilson scored the other TD

True. I'm over here giving Spav credit for one TD he doesn't deserve.
Posted by tmc94
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 2:59 pm to
et the OT, Brute?

Posted by NanosTacoRun
Member since Jun 2015
3345 posts
Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:12 pm to
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Same true fish and and dip shite OC who the week before Auburn managed to score 35 on an SC defense who, just like Auburn, is ranked in the 90s in total defense? 


Looking at Opponent-adjusted numbers, Auburn's defense was miles ahead of USC's

FEI (drive-based defensive efficiency)
Auburn #63
USC #106

S&P (play-based defensive efficiency)
Auburn #50
USC #95


That doesn't excuse our pitiful performance against Auburn, but saying the 2 defenses were of equal strength (especially after Carl Lawson came back from missing 6 games) is just wrong
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 3:19 pm to
I believe it was the legendary great Tbird that said it best "there are nits being picked in here"
Posted by CajunTiger_225
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 4:09 pm to
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Tmc
Posted by greenbastard
Parts Unkown
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 6:13 pm to
Not entirely. At the end of the day, the most important defensive stat is Scoring Defense, and they only sit 2 positions apart.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/8/15 at 6:20 pm to
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I believe it was the legendary great Tbird that said it best "there are nits being picked in here"


#NitLivesMatter
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