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Posted on 1/24/15 at 9:31 am to Old Sarge
I wouldn't go that far. Kyle hasn't proved himself to be another JFF. That being said, I agree that the job is not what most would consider "up for grabs".
Posted on 1/24/15 at 9:39 am to Old Sarge
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you're an idiot if you think the qb spot is up for grabs
Right up there with people who think Kyler is going to Texas because of bagmen.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 9:39 am to Agforlife
Kyle Allen is the QB.
Barring a spectacular Kenny Hill-esq devolution or a career-ending injury, he'll be the starter until he goes pro or graduates.
He has the height, the arm-strength, the accuracy, a year in the system, and enough running ability to keep defenses honest.
Kyler has been super effective in HS, but he is SMALL. Really small. Short, with a little kid's frame.
I want Kyler because he is the ringleader of a slew of recruits I want much more and because Kyle Allen needs a backup. But he's too tiny to be a multi-year starter at QB in the SEC considering his tendency to run a lot. Johnny played hurt for half of his second year and he is 2" taller and has a bigger build.
If I were Kyler, I'd go to UT. Play right away, play smaller, weaker defenses.
Barring a spectacular Kenny Hill-esq devolution or a career-ending injury, he'll be the starter until he goes pro or graduates.
He has the height, the arm-strength, the accuracy, a year in the system, and enough running ability to keep defenses honest.
Kyler has been super effective in HS, but he is SMALL. Really small. Short, with a little kid's frame.
I want Kyler because he is the ringleader of a slew of recruits I want much more and because Kyle Allen needs a backup. But he's too tiny to be a multi-year starter at QB in the SEC considering his tendency to run a lot. Johnny played hurt for half of his second year and he is 2" taller and has a bigger build.
If I were Kyler, I'd go to UT. Play right away, play smaller, weaker defenses.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 9:40 am to Tecate
I didn't say he was JFF, but Kyle has solidified his position.
And to think he won't be bigger, stronger, smarter, more accurate, and more mature in 2015 is lunacy.
He knows the system, he has a very strong connection and relationships with the players and his receivers.
He will get ALL of the time with the 1's this spring.
And to think he won't be bigger, stronger, smarter, more accurate, and more mature in 2015 is lunacy.
He knows the system, he has a very strong connection and relationships with the players and his receivers.
He will get ALL of the time with the 1's this spring.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 9:47 am to Cooter Davenport
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If I were Kyler, I'd go to UT. Play right away, play smaller, weaker defenses.
The more I reflect on it the more I see this.
It's either
A. The Murray's rationally decide that football is a very distant second to baseball in Kyler's future, so why not honor his longtime commitment to A&M since A&M has honored their end
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B. They have recognized that Kyle is an obstacle to Kyler playing that most likely will not change and have decided that playing COLLEGIATE FOOTBALL is THAT IMPORTANT to Kyler and worth the repercussions of betraying his long term commitment, Kevin's legacy, and breaking their word. Sign with tu and roll the dice.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 9:47 am to Old Sarge
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He will get ALL of the time with the 1's this spring.
No doubt about that.
btw.........I'm agreeing with you.
This post was edited on 1/24/15 at 9:48 am
Posted on 1/24/15 at 9:51 am to Tecate
I know, I'm more just sort of thinking out loud than actually replying to anyone. 
Posted on 1/24/15 at 9:55 am to greenbastard
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No single recruit is bigger than the program. Sumlin did the right thing here. I'd rather have a 5 star coach over a 5 star LB any day, all day, errday. 5 star players and go every 3 years, 5 star coaches don't. They, especially DCs, are like Halley Comets.
But what if Malik takes Lodge, Kyler, and Mack with him to Texas? How many five star recruits does it take to be worth a five star coordinator? The coordinator doesn't play the game, the recruits do. Apples and oranges.
If we don't get Mack I am nervous that Chavis never gets the talent momentum needed to be successful here in time. We start dipping down to top 15 classes instead of top 5-10 and we basically turn into a team like Ole Miss that is at best gonna upset a bigger team but not win anything worth a damn.
Chavis doesn't have the talent advantages he had at LSU, and if Strong flips he script on us he will never have it. I know the truth of Aggie expections is that we expect a modest improvement year one, but most Aggies I know are expecting the return of the Wrecking Crew year two. Like good coaches are magic. We dont get Mack and our best defensive player goes to the NFL early because he cant get help (Trey-style) and that ain't happening. The WC stays buried and we maybe wasted millions on both Chavis and Sumlin. Neither play the game.
I am not melting, nor am I saying Sumlin should have handled Malik differently. Heck we have no clue how he handled it. I am just already wary of the Chavis sunshine pump when it comes to recruiting. It is the jimmies and the joes not the xs and os, and I believe the more reasonable LSU fans that say Chavis's system needs talent.
This post was edited on 1/24/15 at 10:37 am
Posted on 1/24/15 at 9:56 am to Old Sarge
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I know, I'm more just sort of thinking out loud than actually replying to anyone.
And I am just feeding all y'all's insecurities
Posted on 1/24/15 at 10:01 am to Agforlife
I'm done being insecure. I am confident it truly is a coin flip in the Murray household right now between the A&B options I listed above. It is what it is. I hope if he chooses B he at least helps Sumlin do damage control for the other croots
Posted on 1/24/15 at 10:01 am to Agforlife
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And I am just feeding all y'all's insecurities
This post was edited on 1/24/15 at 10:03 am
Posted on 1/24/15 at 10:27 am to Asian Sensation
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we can close out this class with Boyd, Merritt, Bussey
Dick harder than an armadillo
Posted on 1/24/15 at 10:50 am to WhiskerBiscuitSlayer
Just read Hamm's detailed update on Sheffield. The family is impressed with Chief, how he plans on using CBs, and his scheme. They said they picked Alabama because they had never met Chief and because of Saban's track record of putting DBs in the NFL. Then, Chief laid out his own track record, and A&M made up a lot of ground in that department. Sumlin is going in-home Monday; Sheffield is currently on his OV to Bama. I'm holding out hope for this one. Sumlin better bring his A++ closing game to the in-homes on Monday and Thursday.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 10:56 am to cardboardboxer
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But what if Malik takes Lodge, Kyler, and Mack with him to Texas? How many five star recruits does it take to be worth a five star coordinator? The coordinator doesn't play the game, the recruits do. Apples and oranges
Let him take them. There will be other classes with stud recruits. There won't be another Chief.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 11:08 am to cardboardboxer
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But what if Malik takes Lodge, Kyler, and Mack with him to Texas? How many five star recruits does it take to be worth a five star coordinator? The coordinator doesn't play the game, the recruits do. Apples and oranges.
And then Greg Little, Brandon Jones, Deontay Anderson, etc. next year.
People just don't realize the impact that this could have down the line.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 11:09 am to greenbastard
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Let him take them.
This is very aggy.
Posted on 1/24/15 at 11:11 am to greenbastard
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Let him take them. There will be other classes with stud recruits. There won't be another Chief.
10000% this
Chiefs hire was THAT important
Posted on 1/24/15 at 11:13 am to greenbastard
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Let him take them. There will be other classes with stud recruits. There won't be another Chief.
I'm not saying you take one over the other. As I said I am not going to speculate about the process. We never were going to get Malik, and I am glad we got Chavis. They are not comparable.
I am saying that the Aggie line of we can miss on the rare top d talent in the state and still have a good defense because Chavis is magic is ridiculous.
Chavis is not a miracle worker, the kind of guy that does great with crap talent. Mizzou got that guy this offseason. Chavis is a guy that if you give top talent he will make them elite. He is a booster effect, not a supplement.
This post was edited on 1/24/15 at 11:15 am
Posted on 1/24/15 at 11:14 am to Roger Klarvin
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This is very aggy.
I disagree. The mentality that our stud d coordinator and stud recruiter HC can't find other great 4 & 5 star talent to replace them is very Aggy
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