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Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:17 pm to Roger Klarvin
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:17 pm to Roger Klarvin
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A) This is the single greatest troll in recruiting history or B) This is a spiteful play by the Murrays. That family is too sharp to for one second think Texas is a better situation for his style than A&M, Oregon or OU.
Now, because the troll excuse has been shot down by everyone from Liucci to Ketch I have no reason to believe it. This just screams "frick you" by the Murrays.
I agree this couldn't just be about a rift between the Kevins causing Kevin Murray to direct Kyler to Austin.
[edit: won't speculate until an LOI is sent]
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:18 pm to Asian Sensation
Oh I doubt they are seriously considering switching to Texas for football. This is either a tantrum that will pass, or he'll commit to Oregon at the last minute or something.
No fricking way he ACTUALLY goes to Texas unless he has already decided he's gonna be playing pro baseball next year and wants to frick us in the process.
No fricking way he ACTUALLY goes to Texas unless he has already decided he's gonna be playing pro baseball next year and wants to frick us in the process.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:18 pm to cardboardboxer
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I hate it, I do. But my best IRL Aggie friend keeps chiding me about the truth- we can't keep them down forever. Charlie up until Malik was doing a terrible job of recruiting as a new coach in his first cycle at a top program. Eventually just the odds say he had to pick up a little steam at the end. Almost every coach gets a first full cycle bump- Fran did, Sherm did, Tubbs did, etc. It is natural. Honestly what is in the back of my head is if Kyler is gonna flip thank God its not OU. If Charlie actually gets his shite together we need Stoops to be fired and replaced with a CRAP hire if we are going to take advantage of this Big 12 GOR period. We will see, Charlie still has to get through Briles, Patterson, and now Beaty.
I don't think all three going to Texas would end our momentum, but it would eat up the time left on the clock for taking our shot. We would need some big wins soon. Suddenly my opinion shifts from 8 wins next year and hope for 10 in 2016 to we better see 9 next year before the bowl. And one of those needs to be LSU, Chavis needs to spill all the beans so we can Jon Gruden them at least one year. There is a lot of talent across the border we aren't going to get first pick on more than a token amount until we can say we are the best SEC team in the area.
We can't keep them down forever, but in this gifted 10 year perfect storm of events for A&M athletics, we should at least be able to make them our bitch for a couple more years.
OU is no longer the enemy. A&M to SEC coupled with TCU to B12 and Baylol's rise has(hopefully) destroyed their stranglehold of the #2 school in the state of Texas. They're still a threat like Baylol's a threat, but their hat won't be on as many of our recruits tables going forward.
The BDF is actually an advantage to them. If they can recruit at the same level they used to, then their path to the playoffs is easier than any program in the nation. The talent gap between t.u. And the rest of the BDF schools would be insurmountable
Completely agree it wouldn't end things if all the feared top players go there, but you're right, the clock would be ticking. The talent level in CS is close. Winning in the playoffs in the next 3-4 years is the ONLY cure in this worst case doomsday scenario we fear
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:19 pm to Roger Klarvin
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if you can't put on a different face for a half hour to the detriment of your career then that is a sign of a personality flaw.
Conversely, being a fake version of yourself can be seen as being intentionally deceptive. It all depends on the audience's perception going in.
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If the only reason Malik isn't an Aggie right now is because Sumlin couldn't bring himself to say
Pure speculation on your part, imo.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:20 pm to Roger Klarvin
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He didn't even need to bullshite, if that was really Malik's only hang up be probably could have told him just what I posted and it would have worked.
Or, just tell him it's gonna be DJ Durkin or some shite and then surprise him with Chavis. Is Malik really gonna decommit because you landed someone objectively better than you said you would?
Sumlin had numerous ways to play that, and instead supposedly went with "No comment".
So Sumlin says "Durkin". Malik says cool, and goes home. His parents pry it out of him, and leak the news. Press asks Durkin about it, and Durkin denies he's been given the job. Now they've caught Sumlin in a lie.
And I find it hard to believe he went with "No comment".
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:21 pm to TbirdSpur2010
It's absolutely speculation. Either Malik wanted to go here and Sumlin effed it up, or Malik was just looking for an excuse to pick Texas. If it was the latter, then whatever. If it was the former then I take issue with it.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:21 pm to Roger Klarvin
And I have no idea why I just typed "effed" instead of "fricked". 
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:22 pm to Mirthomatic
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I hate to go there, I truly do, not the least of which because it sounds like so much sour grapes, but if Kyler goes to UTx, it really seems like the most reasonable explanation has to involve major $$. Way more than the kind of "Brayon Addison" $$ that an Oregon would be willing to pay.
Sour grapes or not, can't rule out that angle ever in major college recruiting.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:23 pm to Mirthomatic
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So Sumlin says "Durkin". Malik says cool, and goes home. His parents pry it out of him, and leak the news. Press asks Durkin about it, and Durkin denies he's been given the job. Now they've caught Sumlin in a lie.
And? We're in the exact same situation we are in now, with Chavis and without Malik.
Sumlin had little to lose by just throwing a name out there.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:24 pm to TbirdSpur2010
It would really suck if Texas just straight up bought the kid named after Kyle Field
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:25 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Either Malik wanted to go here and Sumlin effed it up, or Malik was just looking for an excuse to pick Texas. If it was the latter, then whatever. If it was the former then I take issue with it.
Gotcha
I doubt we'll ever know the full story anytime soon.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:26 pm to Roger Klarvin
I'm just not believing the money theory. If I'm a university, I'm not risking offering tons of money to the son of a major QB of my rival school. That could end so poorly.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:26 pm to Roger Klarvin
Wouldn't that be some galling shite?
Like I said, there's more to it than just landing Kyler, but frick it'd hurt big time perception wise if he became a sip.
Like I said, there's more to it than just landing Kyler, but frick it'd hurt big time perception wise if he became a sip.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:27 pm to SwaggerCopter
Ketch posted an update saying the meeting with Spav went poorly today.
I have no reason to believe him, but it is hard not to when Texas sources are posting stuff every half hour while our guys are hunkered down in the bunker with Eva Braun.
I have no reason to believe him, but it is hard not to when Texas sources are posting stuff every half hour while our guys are hunkered down in the bunker with Eva Braun.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:28 pm to Roger Klarvin
If Kevin is made QB coach on the 40 acres you will know that some BMD bought him and his son. Will it hurt, yes is it something we can't get past, hell no. The only advantage he would have at tu is the fact that he would be playing against small defenses that don'thit like the dudes in the SEC so maybe just maybe he doesn't get killed.
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Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:29 pm to SwaggerCopter
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If I'm a university, I'm not risking offering tons of money to the son of a major QB of my rival school. That could end so poorly.
We're talmbout texas tho. They're desperate enough given their programs vector and arrogant enough to believe they could get away with it.
Conspiracy theory on my part, I know, but I also know they have pulled some cloak and dagger shite before.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:31 pm to SwaggerCopter
Desperate times, my man. Sip recruiting has been a disaster outside of Malik, and it's only getting worse with more decommitments and grade risks. The on-field product sucks and Charlie is not well respected.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:33 pm to Roger Klarvin
Hamm posted that Kyler exhibited negative body language for the first time with Spav. Translation from our end: it didn't go well. At least the two sides are in agreement.
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:36 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Even if this were about money, we got money too. We could match any offer except some package deal like making Kevin an "administrative intern."
Posted on 1/23/15 at 10:37 pm to SwaggerCopter
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I'm just not believing the money theory. If I'm a university, I'm not risking offering tons of money to the son of a major QB of my rival school. That could end so poorly.
To be fair, this is Texas though. They are just so desperate right now, the thought of playing second fiddle to A&M for any length of time chaps their arse so bad that I'm not convinced they wouldn't risk it.
Not saying I believe he is being bought (I really don't) but I wouldn't put it past them. I'm not sure how many of you regularly interact with hardcore Texas grads (the REAL fans who pay the bills) but there are a lot of them in medicine and the Fall of 2012 was legitimately a miserable existence for them. That fanbase just cannot STAND A&M being in the spotlight over them. They can tolerate OU because they are an elite program historically, but little 'ol aggy just gets their blood boiling.
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