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Can we finally talk about the coaching staff now?
Posted on 10/5/24 at 10:59 pm
Posted on 10/5/24 at 10:59 pm
I could go on and on in this post but I'm not going to waste my time unless it actually sees some traffic
At the least Banks has proven to be an AWFUL DC as far as defending the pass. He fails to do so over and over again and just can't resist his urge to go into his zone cushions. Underneath routes are always open. Over the middle routes always open. Yes his numbers have gotten better the talent has also improved tremendously so one would hope the numbers would improve.
Hes also been propped up by the best assistant coach in the conference Rodney Garner and his front line which for several different reasons is extremely talented AND deeper than basically any line we have ever had (it's not more talented than any line we have had but the depth is unprecedented). Garner is the only reason Banks still has a job. In fact the improved DLine may have actually hurt Banks some
Bc for instance tonight despite the line not getting much pressure and us getting torched in the secondary he barely blitzed anyone all night
Willie Martinez's corners never, EVER turn around to find the ball. This has happened so consistently at this point the only conclusion is he doesn't coach them to do it
Then finally the big one, Josh Huepel
Josh seems to be a great guy and I really do appreciate everything he's done to resurrect our program but if something doesn't change fast then I'm going to be forced to believe. 2022 was built on the mind of Alex Golesh. Huepel got here by being extremely creative and aggressive, where have those things gone? Why do we keep going extremely conservative? In Norman I didn't like it but understood there was an argument to be made for it. What about tonight?
How do you keep running it into a brick wall throughout the first half leaving your inexperienced QB in third and longs repeatedly? Once in those third and longs how do you not give your young QB some hot
Routes or some kind of option to help against repeated heavy blitzes instead of just making him stand back there and deal with pressure getting to him before his WRs are even out of their routes?
Why does our offensive line continue to be average at best?
They seemed to snap out of this for a drive or two to open the second half, throwing quick screens and swings and stuff like that on early downs to keep down and distance manageable to help open up the run and guess what? It worked! Then for whatever reason they reverted back to the earlier game plan
Idk.....I said I wouldn't ramble on yet I have anyways. Yes this is a melt. Maybe a glorious one but consider this the first major red flag of the Huepel era. Before at least I could blame it all on Banks. Not anymore
At the least Banks has proven to be an AWFUL DC as far as defending the pass. He fails to do so over and over again and just can't resist his urge to go into his zone cushions. Underneath routes are always open. Over the middle routes always open. Yes his numbers have gotten better the talent has also improved tremendously so one would hope the numbers would improve.
Hes also been propped up by the best assistant coach in the conference Rodney Garner and his front line which for several different reasons is extremely talented AND deeper than basically any line we have ever had (it's not more talented than any line we have had but the depth is unprecedented). Garner is the only reason Banks still has a job. In fact the improved DLine may have actually hurt Banks some
Bc for instance tonight despite the line not getting much pressure and us getting torched in the secondary he barely blitzed anyone all night
Willie Martinez's corners never, EVER turn around to find the ball. This has happened so consistently at this point the only conclusion is he doesn't coach them to do it
Then finally the big one, Josh Huepel
Josh seems to be a great guy and I really do appreciate everything he's done to resurrect our program but if something doesn't change fast then I'm going to be forced to believe. 2022 was built on the mind of Alex Golesh. Huepel got here by being extremely creative and aggressive, where have those things gone? Why do we keep going extremely conservative? In Norman I didn't like it but understood there was an argument to be made for it. What about tonight?
How do you keep running it into a brick wall throughout the first half leaving your inexperienced QB in third and longs repeatedly? Once in those third and longs how do you not give your young QB some hot
Routes or some kind of option to help against repeated heavy blitzes instead of just making him stand back there and deal with pressure getting to him before his WRs are even out of their routes?
Why does our offensive line continue to be average at best?
They seemed to snap out of this for a drive or two to open the second half, throwing quick screens and swings and stuff like that on early downs to keep down and distance manageable to help open up the run and guess what? It worked! Then for whatever reason they reverted back to the earlier game plan
Idk.....I said I wouldn't ramble on yet I have anyways. Yes this is a melt. Maybe a glorious one but consider this the first major red flag of the Huepel era. Before at least I could blame it all on Banks. Not anymore
This post was edited on 10/5/24 at 11:01 pm
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Posted on 10/6/24 at 9:20 am to Wishnitwas1998
I am starting to think Nico's awareness and field vision is the reason. The reason he wasnt put in for a struggling Milton last year, and the reason we are playing so conservative now.
The Oline pass blocking is not helping for sure, but Nico has got to get more comfortable and learn how to make quicker decisions.
The seondary looked like the secondary of old last night, but their qb did complete some well covered passes too. Martinez is still Martinez though.
The Oline pass blocking is not helping for sure, but Nico has got to get more comfortable and learn how to make quicker decisions.
The seondary looked like the secondary of old last night, but their qb did complete some well covered passes too. Martinez is still Martinez though.
This post was edited on 10/6/24 at 9:24 am
Posted on 10/6/24 at 10:42 am to swampvol1
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The Oline pass blocking is not helping for sure, but Nico has got to get more comfortable and learn how to make quicker decisions.
This is definitely an issue but I also think it's hard for us to judge without getting to watch film to see if WRs are getting open or not. He absolutely doesn't seem comfortable but again, you end up in a situation like that you have to know that your defense can't hold on all night and despite Nico's issues you are going to have to be aggressive at some point and if it doesn't work out it doesn't work out but the conservative approach in all likelihood isn't going to work. Its just too fine a line to walk
Posted on 10/6/24 at 5:45 pm to Wishnitwas1998
Let’s not all hit the panic button just yet
Allow Nico to get this season under his belt
But yes Alex Golesh ran a fast pace offense that made a huge difference.
Hopefully 1 day he will be back at Tennessee.
Allow Nico to get this season under his belt
But yes Alex Golesh ran a fast pace offense that made a huge difference.
Hopefully 1 day he will be back at Tennessee.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 6:18 pm to BigOrangeKen
I'm not betting a coaching staffs future on hoping an assistant comes back one day
Yes Nico will improve I certainly don't think he's a lost cause or even performed that badly given his inexperience my concerns are more with how the coaches performed last night, their baffling lack of adjustment, and poor choices in general
Everybody comes out with stuff that doesn't work from time to time, it's how you adjust when it doesn't work that separates decent coaches from great coaches
Yes Nico will improve I certainly don't think he's a lost cause or even performed that badly given his inexperience my concerns are more with how the coaches performed last night, their baffling lack of adjustment, and poor choices in general
Everybody comes out with stuff that doesn't work from time to time, it's how you adjust when it doesn't work that separates decent coaches from great coaches
Posted on 10/6/24 at 6:50 pm to Wishnitwas1998
Main issue with the team right now is that Nico is terrible managing the pocket and is missing throws due to happy feet. I do agree the oline should be better than they are at this point. Having to rely on transfers instead of recruiting and developing talent hurts. The line will never be great doing that.
Will wait until the end of the season to really determine, but I'm fine with the defense at this point.
This is another year of Heupel protecting his QB. It was hard to watch last year, but this year its extremely disappointing. More starting experience can help so not all hope is lost with him.
Will wait until the end of the season to really determine, but I'm fine with the defense at this point.
This is another year of Heupel protecting his QB. It was hard to watch last year, but this year its extremely disappointing. More starting experience can help so not all hope is lost with him.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 6:55 pm to Wishnitwas1998
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Everybody comes out with stuff that doesn't work from time to time, it's how you adjust when it doesn't work that separates decent coaches from great coaches
TBH the conversative mode would have worked if they didn't run into the punter or start false starting like crazy. It worked against Oklahoma. Nico has got to stop missing open throws, though.
Posted on 10/6/24 at 11:34 pm to Kraven Moorehed
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TBH the conversative mode would have worked if they didn't run into the punter or start false starting like crazy. It worked against Oklahoma. Nico has got to stop missing open throws, though.
The situation was different against OU simply bc you had a bigger lead and their offense was almost totally inept
The problem I have with the conservative mode is for it to work you have to be PERFECT and unfortunately more times than not stuff like those penalties are going to happen
I mean a high number of penalties are pretty much a lock with any Huepel coached team at this point and if it comes with other pluses I'm ok with that but I'm not going to build a game plan around them not happening when statistics show that they will
I want to stop for a second and be clear, I am ABSOLUTELY NOT suggesting we make a change with Josh Huepel. He has done a masterful job getting us here from where we were. I'm just concerned we are seeing the early warning signs of future problems
Posted on 10/7/24 at 1:40 pm to swampvol1
It looks like the coaching staff has played very conservatively this entire year.
If I’ve learned anything in sports, it’s when you’re not aggressive you’re *not (typo) at your best.
I’m all about playing to our strengths. When you dominate a game like OU you need to put it out of reach so there isn’t a chance.
Same thing happened with Florida in 2022. That’s how you lose games you shouldn’t.
If I’ve learned anything in sports, it’s when you’re not aggressive you’re *not (typo) at your best.
I’m all about playing to our strengths. When you dominate a game like OU you need to put it out of reach so there isn’t a chance.
Same thing happened with Florida in 2022. That’s how you lose games you shouldn’t.
This post was edited on 10/7/24 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 10/11/24 at 8:39 am to Wishnitwas1998
On O I believe replacing Goleash hasn’t worked out as well as hoped. The O just hasn’t looked right since he left.
On D… unpopular opinion but Banks isn’t the issue. It’s not systemic issues but rather just inconsistent play by individuals. The front 7 is generally where you want it this year and most of last year. The secondary is much better this year over any other year Heupel has had. It’s just not ready yet. I believe Martinez likely needs to move on after this year.
The last 2 games the O just hasn’t looked ready or comfortable. The playcalling has been playing centric instead of game planned.
On D… unpopular opinion but Banks isn’t the issue. It’s not systemic issues but rather just inconsistent play by individuals. The front 7 is generally where you want it this year and most of last year. The secondary is much better this year over any other year Heupel has had. It’s just not ready yet. I believe Martinez likely needs to move on after this year.
The last 2 games the O just hasn’t looked ready or comfortable. The playcalling has been playing centric instead of game planned.
Posted on 10/11/24 at 11:42 am to Wishnitwas1998
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At the least Banks has proven to be an AWFUL DC as far as defending the pass. He fails to do so over and over again and just can't resist his urge to go into his zone cushions. Underneath routes are always open. Over the middle routes always open. Yes his numbers have gotten better the talent has also improved tremendously so one would hope the numbers would improve.
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Willie Martinez's corners never, EVER turn around to find the ball. This has happened so consistently at this point the only conclusion is he doesn't coach them to do it
Soft cushion and not looking for the ball are Willie Martinez trademarks. I would take Terry Fair back in a heartbeat.
Posted on 10/12/24 at 1:24 pm to madmaxvol
The season is on the line tonight. I hope they have there shite together.
Posted on 10/19/24 at 9:29 pm to Smokeyone
Here's my assessment after watching a few weeks in SEC play
Joey has to go!
Joey has to go!
Posted on 11/10/24 at 9:21 am to Wishnitwas1998
Halzle: Huge drop off from Golesh. In over his head IMHO.
Martinez: Do I really need to say anymore?
Banks: Does a good job when we have a huge lead and he will take a risk. When things get tight he seems to freeze.
Heupel: He has been way too conservative for the tools he has at his disposal. However, he has done a great job. He has us back in the conversation for the SEC Championship and the playoffs. Danny White and Josh Heupel have no less than saved the program.
Martinez: Do I really need to say anymore?
Banks: Does a good job when we have a huge lead and he will take a risk. When things get tight he seems to freeze.
Heupel: He has been way too conservative for the tools he has at his disposal. However, he has done a great job. He has us back in the conversation for the SEC Championship and the playoffs. Danny White and Josh Heupel have no less than saved the program.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 7:12 am to Blackadder
The defense deserves to have a cushion to work with, because of Joey they have to work hard to maintain what lead they have.
The Heupel offense doesn't really begin until the second-half........because Joey's scripted offense is over.
The Heupel offense doesn't really begin until the second-half........because Joey's scripted offense is over.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 8:52 am to robvols
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The Heupel offense doesn't really begin until the second-half........because Joey's scripted offense is over.
That is on Josh. He is the head coach, it is up to him to see and react to Joey's incompetence.
Posted on 11/12/24 at 5:33 pm to Blackadder
In an ultimate sense
Posted on 11/16/24 at 10:16 pm to Wishnitwas1998
Yeah let’s talk coaching staff. frick banks. He just called the softest game I’ve ever seen. Literally let Beck that was a shell of his former self look like Peyton manning. Pissing away a ton of talent.
Posted on 11/18/24 at 8:58 pm to VAvolfan
Banks did not have a clue. He literally had no answer for Georgia's offense.
They are saying several small schools are interested in him for a head coaching position. My God, I hope one of them takes him off our hands. Knowing our luck Josh will promote Willie Martinez to defensive coordinator.
They are saying several small schools are interested in him for a head coaching position. My God, I hope one of them takes him off our hands. Knowing our luck Josh will promote Willie Martinez to defensive coordinator.
Posted on 11/20/24 at 4:40 pm to Blackadder
You guys are tired of Banks? I thought he’s done a great job of improving the defense
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