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re: Why can't Alabama attract an elite pass rusher?

Posted on 2/6/13 at 8:37 pm to
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 8:37 pm to
But you are already a shoe-in for three in a row.
Posted by CashMoneyProgram
NC Alabama
Member since Dec 2010
896 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 8:40 pm to
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biggest flop of this years class...dude is all about himself and has no brain. Classic washout. Congrats on Kamara. He will be the next big thing at Bama


he is the 2nd coming of biscuit....take it to the bank!
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 8:44 pm to
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But you are already a shoe-in for three in a row.
Strong contender, yes but far from a shoe in.
Posted by deeprig9
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 8:48 pm to
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Strong contender, yes but far from a shoe in.


The only thing you really lost was 3 badass OL's, I'm sure Bama has the backups to get it done.

Yeldon, and a quarterback with 2 NC rings coming back, most of your defense coming back... and loaded with 5 stars in backup positions to fill any holes left by graduation/nfl... you guys are stacked, remember, 2012 was a rebuilding year for Bama, and still won it. You had a loss in 2012, but in 2013, you can actually do it without having to hope other teams lose because you'll be undefeated.


Unless Ole Miss creeps up on your... with Nkemdiche...
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
29945 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 8:49 pm to
I'm sure it's been said... but in case it hasn't, I am watching Shawshank... so I ain't reading everything.

But, what I was thinking was.... who the hell cares? 3 out of 4 is a really hard number to argue with or even question.

Change the formula if we have to or need to when people expose what we're doing and can adapt. Until then, don't TOUCH THIS shite.

btw, have we HAVE had some legit pass rushers. we just aren't forcing risky blitzes into our quarterly routine... especially for big games.
Posted by JombieZombie
Member since Nov 2009
7687 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:09 pm to
I think Saban addressed that a little at his post-NSD press conference. They were looking for speedier guys to contain, affect duel threat QBs. I think he found them in Allen and Foster.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:13 pm to
A&M has the opposite problem.

We've had at least one elite pass rusher on the team every year since 2008. We can't get interior linemen committed and qualified to save our lives, though. On the rare occasion that we do, they go and smoke pot or pull a gun or some shite. Hopefully with the sheer volume of stud DTs we signed this year one or two will make a longterm impact, but I wouldnt be shocked to see all three get arrested together for grand theft auto in September.
Posted by omrebelfan20
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:14 pm to
if georgia is on him hard, im sure CHF wouldnt mind flipping him to Oxford
Posted by MontyFranklyn
T-Town
Member since Jan 2012
24300 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:15 pm to
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The only thing you really lost was 3 badass OL's, I'm sure Bama has the backups to get it done.

Yeldon, and a quarterback with 2 NC rings coming back, most of your defense coming back... and loaded with 5 stars in backup positions to fill any holes left by graduation/nfl... you guys are stacked, remember, 2012 was a rebuilding year for Bama, and still won it. You had a loss in 2012, but in 2013, you can actually do it without having to hope other teams lose because you'll be undefeated.


Unless Ole Miss creeps up on your... with Nkemdiche...

the good thing is that we get Ole Miss and Texas A&M early. Ole Miss not having an elite qb leaves me unworried. On the other hand, with the lack of a consistent pass rush without having to blitz, guys like Mett and Murray could really hurt us.
Posted by Bill Parker?
Member since Jan 2013
5439 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:23 pm to
The football Gods have forced a lack of a dominant pass rush on Alabama for the unmitigated terror that was Derrick Thomas.

Dalvin Tomlinson will be a speed rusher.
Posted by BabyrayS2k
Member since Nov 2012
778 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:28 pm to
Adrian Hubbard should be decent this year.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46671 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:33 pm to
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the good thing is that we get Ole Miss and Texas A&M early.


This. When Bama plays us we'll either be starting 3-5 true freshmen along the front seven or a bunch of redshirt freshmen and a sophomore coming off of back surgery. There is a scenario in which we will start ONE member of the front seven that beat Bama in Tuscaloosa last year.

The only reason I'm even hopeful is the game is at Kyle and Bama's defensive speed isnt enough to keep Manziel from running around like LSU's. I fully expect them to rush for 180-200 yards though.
Posted by UAFanFromNOLA
NOLA
Member since Dec 2011
4882 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:34 pm to
I assume this was made in response to Vanderdoes choosing Notre Dame. We have some talent we brought in last year that has not gotten a chance to play much. Also, Allen and Liner are big additions for the pass rush.
Posted by tigerfan4120
Member since Dec 2003
3264 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 9:48 pm to
Tim Williams is nothing if not a pass rusher. He could be your guy. Will need a LOT of work to be an all-around LB but one thing he can do is get to the QB. Dunno much about the Jonathan Allen guy but looks like he also fits the mold. Denzell Devall from last year comes to mind.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23710 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 10:39 pm to
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You'll get one from Virginia next year.

edit for link LINK


We can hope, but remember this time last year everyone and their brother had already added Robert Nkemdiche to our commit list.

Believe it when he signs on the dotted line a year from now.
Posted by MontyFranklyn
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Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/6/13 at 10:40 pm to
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This. When Bama plays us we'll either be starting 3-5 true freshmen along the front seven or a bunch of redshirt freshmen and a sophomore coming off of back surgery. There is a scenario in which we will start ONE member of the front seven that beat Bama in Tuscaloosa last year.

The only reason I'm even hopeful is the game is at Kyle and Bama's defensive speed isnt enough to keep Manziel from running around like LSU's. I fully expect them to rush for 180-200 yards though.
Well the difference in next years game will be the fact that Bama will start with the run and end with the run. Not letting JFF will be the key. Who am i kidding though, it will be impossible for A&M to stop our O. We just have to make sure we can stall out A&M drives early and get a few 3&outs and make sure we get 7. I could honestly see the game starting off for us like it did for the Aggies this past season. Also, with Mosley taking on an every down role as well as having a load of 5 star lbs we should be fine.
Posted by BaseballDawg23
MS
Member since May 2012
260 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 10:41 pm to
Yeah Tim Williams went to to the right place cause I think Bama can develop him into a beast.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
23710 posts
Posted on 2/6/13 at 10:44 pm to
We have about 5 solid pass rushers, we just don't have a Jadeveon Clowney or Jarvis Jones. Then again most NFL teams don't either.
Posted by americanrealism
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Member since Nov 2012
1515 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 1:58 am to
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our D is not about sacking QB, our D is about stopping the run and effecting the qb thru our scheme, not sacking him.

This.

Saban runs more of a Parcells/Belichick 3-4 which is about being fundamentally sound, keeping plays contained and forcing a team to drive the length of the field on you. Bend but don't break. Notice that we don't bring a ton of blitzes, and when we do it's maybe 5 rushers.

Sacks are nice, they're just not a priority in this scheme.
Posted by stho381
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4634 posts
Posted on 2/7/13 at 2:56 am to
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Why can't Alabama attract an elite pass rusher?



3-4 scheme....you basically have lean DTs at DE.
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