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re: UGA at #2 in 2019 Rankings

Posted on 7/31/18 at 7:29 pm to
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/31/18 at 7:29 pm to
Again he won the SEC so did Richt. A better team maybe but a team that also beat you. Those other stats are for losers nothing more when trying to look better. In the end all Kirby did was become the best loser in the land for the one game that actually counted
This post was edited on 7/31/18 at 7:31 pm
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38231 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:07 pm to
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Again he won the SEC so did Richt. A better team maybe but a team that also beat you. Those other stats are for losers nothing more when trying to look better. In the end all Kirby did was become the best loser in the land for the one game that actually counted


A better SECCG opponent not maybe, but literally.

Its not about trying to look better, its about literally being better. The win over OU cemented it if there was any doubts before hand.

Sometimes the depth of a discussion comparing teams is just too much for folks like you. Not shocked based upon your comment questioning kirby's ability to develop players immediately after proving it.
This post was edited on 7/31/18 at 8:16 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12394 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:28 pm to
All I see is someone so insecure with their team. Again the jury is still out regarding Kirby as a HC. He may or may not be what you hope. But the facts are he still has not won anything more then what Richt did sorry that does not fit your narrative here
Posted by Long Dawg
Acworth, GA
Member since Dec 2017
2054 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:36 pm to
Richt never got to the Natty.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38231 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 8:49 pm to
Its not my narrative, its reality.

Having to use the "insecure" card just because your silly thoughts have been proven wrong? Now thats real insecurity, so maybe you are looking in the mirror.
This post was edited on 7/31/18 at 8:51 pm
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27825 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 10:34 pm to
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Except for 2015 NC I do not think any other NC UA team had a GA player start. Without looking it up not think has processed more GA players.



Look up your depth chart from the 2012 team (it was the
1st team I checked)

3 starters are from Georgia along with 6 on the two deep.Adrian Hubbard,Xavier Dickson and Chance Warmack were the starters and you can look up the 2 deep yourself

Why is "Georgia players haven't helped us win NC's" a thing with Bama fans anyway? 2012 was the 1st team checked and you had 9 of your top 44 from the state...so yea,I think players from GA have contributed to Sabans success especially in his early years @ Bama.
This post was edited on 7/31/18 at 10:35 pm
Posted by CapstoneGrad06
Little Rock
Member since Nov 2008
72918 posts
Posted on 7/31/18 at 11:04 pm to
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,I think players from GA have contributed to Sabans success especially in his early years @ Bama.



The 2009 national title team had four players from Georgia on the two deep. They weren’t exactly traditional recruits either. Lorenzo Washington and Kareem Jackson were prep school players. James Carpenter was a JuCo. Darius Hanks was the other.

Alabama has always recruited the state of Georgia. That’s not going to change. But I don’t think it has really ever heavily relied on the state. While Kirby is going to keep more at home, there are just too many top prospects and too few spots.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
44779 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 12:20 am to
That’s the huge benefit to having Bama’s level of success.

You can just recruit all of the elite players nationally, and you’ll get from a decent enough amount of top players to have the best class.

We’re kind of starting to do this as well. Try and keep the best from your state at home, but don’t be afraid to go get studs from elsewhere.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60643 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 5:59 am to
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I don't think we are going to let up on our recruiting at QB. There are about 2 QBs in the state who are top 50 recruits for 2020.


We are going hard after Max Johnson right now.
Posted by DawgsLife
Ellijay, Ga.
Member since Jun 2013
60643 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 6:02 am to
quote:

You may not follow UA football but UA has never been successful due to players out of GA.


This is true. Alabama really does not, as a whole, take many Georgia players.

quote:

Except for 2015 NC I do not think any other NC UA team had a GA player start.

I can't imagine this being true, though.

ETA
Xavier McKinney is from georgia, but it is absolutely true that not many Georgia guys start at Alabama.
This post was edited on 8/1/18 at 6:08 am
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26523 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 6:14 am to
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the one game that actually counted

They all count.
Posted by Cobb Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
9804 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 6:49 am to
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All I see is someone so insecure with their team. Again the jury is still out regarding Kirby as a HC. He may or may not be what you hope. But the facts are he still has not won anything more then what Richt did sorry that does not fit your narrative here


Won last years SEC. Bama didn’t. Beat Auburn. Bama didn’t. Dawgs had to play an extra postseason game while Bama sat and rested and prepared. Bama was gifted by a crucial blown OS call late in the game that would have a nail in the coffin. Yet you talk.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12394 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 6:51 am to
How am I wrong? Richt won the SEC as did Kirby but neither won a NC. Please tell me what reality your narrative is in. Facts are facts.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
26523 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 6:52 am to
You both have a narrative.
Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
79561 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 6:55 am to
Can we please blow up this thread?
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38231 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:06 am to
You said Kirby has yet to prove he could develop players, which can only be done by ignoring 2017.

You are choosing to ignore a more in depth factual comparison of richt and smart.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12394 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:09 am to
We one the NC so yes I can talk if need be. No excuses here but you seem to have them. Again in the end we play for one thing the NC. If you get excited about who you beat and the almost wins have it. You have not seen me on here bragging about almost beating CU or some call they may or may not have changed the game.

The only fact that is relevant right now is Alabama is the reigning NC and UGA lost in the big game.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12394 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:14 am to
Not ignoring but understand it takes more then two years to determine if he can. Ask LSU who thought Miles could continue what Saban was doing but once his players were gone we saw what happened to LSU. Not saying it will be the same for Kirby because he has a better blueprint he has learned from and a better pool to recruit from.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
12394 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:17 am to
You are correct on 2012 but my point is as Kirby can lock down the state and it will have little effect on us. Richt always seem to beat us for the top players in GA. It will hurt programs like AU, USC, CU, and UT more then us. We have gotten a few that have helped us.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
38231 posts
Posted on 8/1/18 at 7:18 am to
There is a huge difference between saban influenced players and richt influenced players.
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