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re: Saban signs an "IOU" for a recruit...finds the recruit a job (Update) Coach Mad
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:23 am to reb13
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:23 am to reb13
I think most new Taylor had a chance to not get signed or was gonna grey shirt. Not sure what the hoopla is all about. Hopefully Saban and the staff were honest with him and he is apart of the Bama football family in the future.
I hope any staff in the country is upfron with kid when dealing with Greyshirts. Atleast it sint afeter signing day and the kid can still look around for a scholly tho.
I hope any staff in the country is upfron with kid when dealing with Greyshirts. Atleast it sint afeter signing day and the kid can still look around for a scholly tho.
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Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:23 am to ThaKaptin
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Being a reference is not a violation regardless of how much you want it to be. You cannot punish a coach for answering a phone call from a potential employer and saying "yeah, he's a good kid." sorry.
First lets go back to what the recruit said,
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They are going to find me a job. I’m going to work. I’m going to physical therapy at least seven days per week. I guess I will work
This more insinuates that Saban/Bama is going to find him a job, Does it not? not just a reference or picking up a phone call and say "yeah, he's a good kid" because he put saban as a reference.
And yes any and all benefits to a potential recruit are recruiting violations
Now the kid might have mispoken but if what he said is how it was told to him, then its a violation plain and simple.
My bet is look for the kid to retract this statement because of Bama complaince/Saban
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:23 am to ThaKaptin
quote:Are you seriously trying to argue that getting a high school recruit a job isn't a recruiting violation?
ThaKaptin
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:25 am to MrBiriwa
quote:I think the kid saying that Saban is going to sign a letter of intent to offer the kid a letter of intent to sign next year and Saban's promise to get the kid a job while he waits on that LOI next year is what the hoopla is about.
Not sure what the hoopla is all about.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:26 am to MrBiriwa
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I hope any staff in the country is upfron with kid when dealing with Greyshirts
This is not a grey shirt
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:27 am to NYCAuburn
quote:No doubt. It was a misunderstanding, of course.
My bet is look for the kid to retract this statement because of Bama complaince/Saban
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:28 am to NYCAuburn
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This is not a grey shirt
Seems like the definition of a greyshirt to me.
Loving the collective melt over this though.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:29 am to crimsonsaint
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Wow. Let me be the first to tell you how much we enjoy your insight into Saban and UA recruiting.
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I feel like we should pay you a subscription fee
My billing rate at work is pretty high. Any suggestions on what I should charge? I do like money.
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Have you ever thought about starting up your own recruiting website?
No. Too complicated for me I think. Plus 17/18 year old kids would annoy me too much.
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You could name it www.saban'sballsarehuge.com.
No comment.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:30 am to TreyAnastasio
Nothing will come of this,but it's hysterical to see some of the comments in this thread.... 
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:31 am to Tiger n Miami AU83
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That is sorta cute. A recruit believes what saban is telling him.
Dumbass.
Oh yeah, the part about finding him a job...
(probably house sitting, if the recruit is good enough)
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:31 am to TreyAnastasio
quote:Greyshirt is not an official term, so there is no standard definition of it. The NCAA rule books don't use the term. However, it is most commonly used to describe a recruit that enrolls in school and pays his own way for a semester due to scholarship limits and then gets a scholarship the following semester.
Seems like the definition of a greyshirt to me.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:32 am to ThaKaptin
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You cannot punish a coach for answering a phone call from a potential employer and saying "yeah, he's a good kid." sorry.
It is a violation for a 'Bama coach, school administrator, or even a booster to search and/or contact a potential employer and place a recruit with a job. That's a serious violation, look at Oklahoma with the QB who transferred to Sam Houston State and the car dealership a few years ago.
Additionally, it is still illegal for a coach, school administrator, or a connected booster to take phone calls, even though that person connected to the school is not searching for the job. However, that is often a lesser violation and is much harder to pin down.
It's also a violation, impermissible contract, to sign an IOU for a scholarship. While the NCAA isn't cracking down on this as of yet, there is serious movement to stop all of this nonsense.
Yes, if what this kid says is true, Alabama and Nick Saban are flying right in the face of numerous NCAA violations. However, I have a hard time believing what he is saying because it is a blatant disregard for NCAA rules.
But Bama fans, don't worry, LSU and every other major program does the same thing.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:32 am to NYCAuburn
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So you dont think finding a job for a potential recruit is a recruiting violation
If you don't mind, will you let us know the next time Alabama gets in trouble for recruiting? We'd appreciate it.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:33 am to TreyAnastasio
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Seems like the definition of a greyshirt to me
Grey shirts still sign a LOI, he is not. So its not a grey shirt
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Loving the collective melt over this though.
Not melting or worried one bit, just having a discussion. good to see the board back to some normalcy the last 2 months have been awful
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:33 am to TT9
quote:No doubt that n othing will come of it. It was just a recruit misunderstanding what he was told. However, he won't get a piece of paper signed by Saban unless he buys an autographed picture and Saban probably will back away from getting him a job now that he ran his mouth. Stupid kid for telling a reporter this IYAM.
Nothing will come of this
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:34 am to crimsonsaint
Saban owns the NCAA........Nothing to see here.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:34 am to TT9
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Nothing will come of this,but it's hysterical to see some of the comments in this thread
Agree. I think Clinton sums this situation up completely. It depends on what the definiation of "is" is. What does it mean to say they are helping him to get a job? At worst it's a minor violation and they can't sign him. Then the kid just screwed himself out of a sure scholarship to the school he wants to play for.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:36 am to Schwaaz
Bama won't get in trouble because they haven't actually committed a violation yet. Kid just told a reporter than Bama promised him they would in the future. I don't think the NCAA has a conspiracy to commit a violation rule or an attempted violation rule, so Bama will be fine as long as they don't actually do what this guy said they promised him.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:37 am to WDE24
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Are you seriously trying to argue that getting a high school recruit a job isn't a recruiting violation?
If you look back, what I am saying is that it would be nearly impossible to prove that Saban did anything other than answer a phone when the employer called him and said " yeah, he's a good kid".
Yeah, it might be against the rules, but good luck proving it is my point.
Posted on 1/16/12 at 9:38 am to diddydirtyAubie
Anybody know how to fix a web browser?
I went to SECRANT.com and ended up at ITAT...
Lots of Awbie fapping...
I went to SECRANT.com and ended up at ITAT...
Lots of Awbie fapping...
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