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Posted on 2/7/13 at 2:35 pm to Mohican
It's always sticky but I do like the 250 mile definition because that is "easy driving distance" where friends and family can still make it to every game and no planes are involved. That's one of the reasons for instance that A&M has always had a low recruiting spend compared to a lot of schools. A coach can drive to Houston or DFW and hit half a dozen recruits in each town easily in a day each.
Where it gets sticky though is Miami is more than 300 miles from UF. Of course UF does very well in Miami but it doesn't really "own" Miami. FSU, Miami, and a host of National schools all get a big bite because it isn't truly a hometown advantage. It's not the same as A&M considering New Orleans their "territory" but it isn't completely off either.
Here is a map of where NFL players come from for reference:
Where it gets sticky though is Miami is more than 300 miles from UF. Of course UF does very well in Miami but it doesn't really "own" Miami. FSU, Miami, and a host of National schools all get a big bite because it isn't truly a hometown advantage. It's not the same as A&M considering New Orleans their "territory" but it isn't completely off either.
Here is a map of where NFL players come from for reference:
Posted on 2/7/13 at 2:40 pm to Bose Ikard
Shreveport is exactly 250 miles from BR and certainly is LSU territory.
Posted on 2/7/13 at 3:33 pm to aggressor
I don't disagree that Shreveport is LSU territory. My point was simply that if one strictly abides by the 250 mile rule, then not all of Shreveport counts, as Google say its 259 miles from BR to S'port. Of course, the 250 mike thing ought not be too stringently applied.
Posted on 2/7/13 at 3:50 pm to Bose Ikard
The 250 mile thing is just one measure but as I mentioned it has to be in context such as the Miami example. One big factor is how many major schools are inside of that 250 mile radius and esp how many are closer.
That's actually a huge advantage for A&M because of Houston. Houston is a major source of NFL talent, easily one of the Top 5 if not Top 3 cities in the US. Yet it has no major schools there and A&M is 100 miles closer to it than any other major school. Will A&M ever be able to own it completely? No, but the grip is tightening, especially with Sumlin being a former UH coach and the fact that a kid in Houston will actually travel far less now in the SEC West than they would in the Big 12 playing Round Robin.
That's actually another interesting thing to look at in this. What major cities does a school have that type of dominance over? UF has the same advantages with all the Central Florida cities from Tampa to Orlando and so on. LSU obviously has New Orleans.
It's different than a city like Atlanta or Dallas where you have SO many schools with their fingers in the pie.
That's actually a huge advantage for A&M because of Houston. Houston is a major source of NFL talent, easily one of the Top 5 if not Top 3 cities in the US. Yet it has no major schools there and A&M is 100 miles closer to it than any other major school. Will A&M ever be able to own it completely? No, but the grip is tightening, especially with Sumlin being a former UH coach and the fact that a kid in Houston will actually travel far less now in the SEC West than they would in the Big 12 playing Round Robin.
That's actually another interesting thing to look at in this. What major cities does a school have that type of dominance over? UF has the same advantages with all the Central Florida cities from Tampa to Orlando and so on. LSU obviously has New Orleans.
It's different than a city like Atlanta or Dallas where you have SO many schools with their fingers in the pie.
Posted on 2/7/13 at 4:03 pm to Bose Ikard
I have a major appreciation for LA recruits, after seeing what the "leftovers" have done for A&M. Some great football players there, so no wonder LSU has great athletes.
Posted on 2/7/13 at 6:40 pm to tiger perry
Nobody has more prospects within an 1 1/2 drive than UGA...sheer numbers of players would be TX and FA.
UGA also only has 1 other FBS school in the state (if you count GT as FBS) UGA should able to sleepwalk its way to a top 10 class every year.
UGA also only has 1 other FBS school in the state (if you count GT as FBS) UGA should able to sleepwalk its way to a top 10 class every year.
Posted on 2/7/13 at 6:56 pm to Mohican
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I like the 250 mile radius definition.
I do as well as some guys want to play close enough to where their family can still make the drive to see them play. I think that is more important than state lines.
Posted on 2/7/13 at 6:59 pm to aggressor
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One big factor is how many major schools are inside of that 250 mile radius and esp how many are closer.
Agree with this as well.
As far as Miami, Dade and Broward county produce more D1 and eventual NFL players than any other counties in the country. The reasons are the year round good weather, kids seeing it as their only way out of tough areas, and the HUGE emphasis on youth football. It is a damn factory down here with kids starting super early.
The problem for Miami is the entire country knows this and EVERYONE recruits the area super hard every year.
Posted on 2/7/13 at 7:35 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Texas is the largest, deepest recruiting pool in the country followed closely by Florida. A&M and UF are, in theory, the only schools in the conferenc that could routinely build championship caliber teams with 100% in-state talent. Both states are recruited heavily by numerous schools though.
In terms of sheer dominance over a solid recruiting ground, it's gotta be Bama. Solid talent and they get pretty much whoeever they want.
This.
And Texas is growing at an alarming rate. Young families are moving there, whereas Florida is the destination of snowbirds. Which is to say, those old folks are not going to be producing any topflight talent.
This post was edited on 2/7/13 at 7:35 pm
Posted on 2/7/13 at 7:45 pm to footballtimeintn
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Tennessee's should be 6 or 7. Tennessee's talent is getting better. Just on instate we are better than Arkansas,Missouri,Kentucky, and Mississippi.
Tennessee has nowhere near the instate talent of Mississippi. I think only the District of Columbia produces more talent per capita. TN isn't even in the top 20.
Posted on 2/7/13 at 8:07 pm to CowTownReb
Do what?GA had more players on SEC rosters than any other state including FA. The state of FA did beat out GA (58 to 57) for number of sholarships awarded for SEC schools this year.
UGA could easily build a national power with instate talent alone. (along with TX and Florida)
UGA could easily build a national power with instate talent alone. (along with TX and Florida)
Posted on 2/7/13 at 8:14 pm to RD Dawg
Agreed UGA has a fantastic base. Atlanta is heavily recruited by a ton of SEC and ACC schools. Still being the flagship school in the state, UGA should have a recent national title by now imo...
Posted on 2/7/13 at 8:43 pm to aggressor
I think you have good posts. I just wish you could reduce them to something smaller than walls of text.
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