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re: Kayshon Boutte to Texas A&M?

Posted on 12/24/21 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by LSUBALLER
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2013
16079 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 1:23 pm to
Ok, let’s. Aggies won’t win shite! Unless Jimbo moves on then there may be small chance for a SEC west title! .
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
24264 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 3:17 pm to
Well if he enters portal, whoever ends up with him there would be no doubt of tampering at that point.
Posted by FishFearMe
United States
Member since Jul 2015
7196 posts
Posted on 12/24/21 at 9:18 pm to
tampering has been going on for years. blowu champions at it
Posted by Tiger365
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2013
984 posts
Posted on 12/26/21 at 12:45 pm to
He’s a guaranteed 1st rounder when he plays this year or sat out...why change schools?
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13439 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 7:38 am to
The thing is, Boutte doesn't need to go anywhere else to improve his draft stock. Everyone knows what he is and will be. Anyone questioning LSU's contribution to NFL receivers must not be watching.
The guy was still leading the nation in TD receptions a month after getting injured.

One more season and he's off to the NFL. He'll stay put.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 8:01 am to
If Boutte changes schools it will be to win a ring, which will not be at a&m. Everything else he wants to achieve he can do at LSU. Not saying LSU can not win it next year but UA will offer the best opportunity for him to do that.

In the end I see him staying at LSU.
This post was edited on 12/29/21 at 8:02 am
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 9:26 am to
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Your school either gets on board and develops a smart way to handle NIL or you simply lose. Nothing more to say.



Except you have not won anything yet either. You are assuming all the money you threw at recruits will equate to winning.


Unlike Bama of course who wins without recruiting the best talent and instead it's the mythical power of the A on their helmet that propels them to victory.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 10:53 am to
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it's the mythical power of the A


This is how I can tell you are clueless about what it means to support a program that has a history of success.

See a&m fans seem to forget the obvious.

1) Your program left the BIG12 because you no longer wanted to be under the shadow of big brother in Austin. But now they are coming to the SEC and once again you have to contend with that.

2) You joined the SEC thinking it would make you a national contender. Not happened yet.

3) Spent millions on upgrading facilities thinking that would give you an edge with recruiting. Still did not help

4) Went out and spent what now over $100 million(with extensions) on a coach with the hope it would make you a contender and help with recruiting. Still did not help.

4) So finally decided to outbid everyone using NIL with the help of your boosters to get a top recruiting class that you hope will hopefully make you a contender.

So maybe now you can understand why so many are laughing and making fun of a&m because until NIL no matter what you did players just were not interested in your facilities, coaches, or program at the level to possibly be a contender.
This post was edited on 12/29/21 at 10:55 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145133 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 11:38 am to
Lol
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 11:46 am to
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Lol


Look it is my little teenage girl stalker. Thought you were still on your period.

I was getting worried
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 12:27 pm to
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quote: it's the mythical power of the A This is how I can tell you are clueless about what it means to support a program that has a history of success. See a&m fans seem to forget the obvious. 1) Your program left the BIG12 because you no longer wanted to be under the shadow of big brother in Austin. But now they are coming to the SEC and once again you have to contend with that. 2) You joined the SEC thinking it would make you a national contender. Not happened yet. 3) Spent millions on upgrading facilities thinking that would give you an edge with recruiting. Still did not help 4) Went out and spent what now over $100 million(with extensions) on a coach with the hope it would make you a contender and help with recruiting. Still did not help. 4) So finally decided to outbid everyone using NIL with the help of your boosters to get a top recruiting class that you hope will hopefully make you a contender. So maybe now you can understand why so many are laughing and making fun of a&m because until NIL no matter what you did players just were not interested in your facilities, coaches, or program at the level to possibly be a contender.


Ah, hubris. You can only win consistently because of talent and coaching, period. Tradition means nothing. It doesn't score touchdowns or make tackles. It's about getting the players and having a coach that can lead them.

I've been following CFB a long time. I grew up on A&M in the '80's and graduated in the early '90s. In that time we had 7 Conference Titles (plus an undefeated season we were ineligible), dominated Texas recruiting and had the #1 Class in '87, and considered 2 losses a bad season. A&M wasn't half the school then we are now but it all started when we made Jackie the first coach with a million dollar contract and we built what were at the time elite facilities. Then in the mid '90s we got lazy and assumed we would just keep winning. We stopped spending to have the best of everything and watched Texas hire Mack, OU hire Stoops, and LSU hire Saban. We had a 10/11 streak against Texas, 5 in a row against LSU, and 4 against OU. We kept trying to prop it up and had the disaster hire of Fran (which we stole from Bama) and proceeded to fall into the abyss.

The SEC move gave us a fresh start and we have been building ever since. In the meantime we got very big and very rich. We have been spending at unprecedented levels and hired the best coach on the market. It has yet to pay off fully but the future is bright. We have talent and we have coaching and we have the resources to maintain it and improve on it going forward.

What Bama has done has been unprecedented and amazing. Greatest run in CFB history. How did it start though? It started because Bama went out and bought the best coach available and they gave him an unlimited budget for facilities and resources. It wasn't the tradition that won, it was the coach and the talent he brought together.

Talent and coaching wins championships, it's that simple. The question is how you can get the talent and coaching. The answer is level of commitment and the resources available.

Oh, and spare me the NIL whining. Are you saying that Bama doesn't play the NIL game or that A&M does it so much better that top rated players are choosing A&M because we pay more than Bama? Seriously?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145133 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 12:32 pm to
lol
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 12:56 pm to
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lol


Addison it will be alright.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 1:10 pm to
quote:

It wasn't the tradition that won, it was the coach and the talent he brought together.



Tradition is why UA is now in its 2nd dynasty run. Saban could have went to any program he wanted when he left Miami but he picked UA for a reason. A program that has demonstrated it will continue the tradition of being a contender for NCs.

quote:

Oh, and spare me the NIL whining. Are you saying that Bama doesn't play the NIL game or that A&M does it so much better that top rated players are choosing A&M because we pay more than Bama? Seriously?


I have yet to whine about the NIL just been entertained because numerous aggie posters bragged about it going into early signing day talking how much money the program has via boosters to setup the best NIL deals for their recruits coming in. Simply made it sound like the only reason they could get a 5 star was NIL money. So maybe go check in with your fellow posters because based on their contributions it seems recruiting & NIL are the only way for Jimbo to bring in top talent.

In regards to UA players and NIL I know Young has a deal but outside of that I have no clue nor care. But yet I do not recall any UA fan or really any other school brag about it like aggie fans and make it seem like that is the only way a top recruit would pick a&m. Just saying
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 1:28 pm to
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Saban could have went to any program he wanted when he left Miami but he picked UA for a reason. A program that has demonstrated it will continue the tradition of being a contender for NCs.

He went to Alabama because they had an opening and LSU told him they couldn't fire les coming off an 11 win sugar bowl season.

ETA: here were the availible coaching jobs that offseason

quote:

Air Force
Alabama
Arizona
Army
Boston College
Central Michigan
Cincinnati
FIU
Idaho
Indiana
Iowa State
Louisiana Tech
Louisville
Miami (Fla.)
Michigan State
Minnesota
North Carolina
North Carolina St.
North Texas
Rice
Stanford
Tulane
Tulsa
UAB

There's one, maybe 2 other jobs he would have even considered that off season. Alabama threw him a bunch of under the table booster money and he took that job.

I mean Saban wasn't even Alabama's first choice
This post was edited on 12/29/21 at 1:34 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145133 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 2:45 pm to
lol
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

quote: It wasn't the tradition that won, it was the coach and the talent he brought together. Tradition is why UA is now in its 2nd dynasty run. Saban could have went to any program he wanted when he left Miami but he picked UA for a reason. A program that has demonstrated it will continue the tradition of being a contender for NCs.


So you think Saban came to Bama for tradition and the money and resources were just secondary? The fact Bama offered him the richest deal in CFB, seemed unhappy at Miami, and there weren't many other high profile college jobs available was also secondary.

What Bama has done is amazing but it is still primarily about coaching and talent and putting the resources and commitment to attaining it. None of that has jack shite to do with tradition or dynasties.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13439 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 4:04 pm to
Nope.

quote:

ignore the rumors … i’m locked in



LINK

Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 4:07 pm to
You keep believing Saban wanted to come back. He left because he knew he could not accomplish what he wanted at LSU like he has at UA
This post was edited on 12/29/21 at 4:08 pm
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11834 posts
Posted on 12/29/21 at 4:08 pm to
Come on Addison you can do better. Just try a little harder
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