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re: John Emery 5* commits to UGA

Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:10 am to
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:10 am to
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Unfortunately against SELA we put together a patchwork OL who simply couldn't block 1 guy from SELA effectively and they were blitzing most of the night so Burrow mostly had very little time to throw.

Does this concern you going forward? If you can't block SELA, it wouldn't matter if you had Tom Brady back there.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68316 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:15 am to
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Does this concern you going forward? If you can't block SELA, it wouldn't matter if you had Tom Brady back there.



That OL will never play again this season so no. Against Miami they did much better and Miami is a much much better front 7 than Southeastern. We suspended our LT for the SELA game who is really good and also had our starting RT out due to injury who will likely be back next week. Basically, it was just a patchwork OL for a game that didn't matter really. They certainly didn't look good, but it's not the guys we'll be putting out there rest of season.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:45 am to
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Just stop man.

A) This has nothing to do with John Emery
B) That accuracy stat is garbage as it relates to actually playing football
C) Not all of his issues have been because of the O Line, he really didn't play that well against SLU and this seems like a strange hill to die on. Let's see how he improves as the season progresses and maybe I'll join you in your crusade.


Glad you said this. Hopefully this can start a meaningful conversation free from trolling by either side.

My question is this.: (Because I only saw him against Miami) How strong is his arm. Does he have zip on short throws? (Burrow) The ball seemed to float (it just didn't seem to have a lot of zip) to me in the Miami game, but it is hard to tell on TV. There are times when it seems Fromm's passes do not have zip and other times when it seems to have really good velocity.
That could be because of a QB putting touch on the ball, too.

It's really difficult to tell how good a QB will be in only two games. he might end up being very good...or maybe not.

Certainly a 50% completion rate does not look good against SELA, but that can also be an aberration. Time will tell us.
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
58915 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:49 am to
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Basically, it was just a patchwork OL for a game that didn't matter really. They certainly didn't look good, but it's not the guys we'll be putting out there rest of season.


Certainly you have to be concerned about your depth, though. I mean if the two players made that big of a difference. Is the talent that bad on your 2nd string, or are they just talented, but young and inexperienced?
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42531 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:10 am to
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Then you're ignoring facts, again, he's putting >90% of passes on target, about all you can ask a QB to do.


You can also ask them to throw it to people who are more open.
Posted by Dawgsontop34
Member since Jun 2014
42531 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:15 am to
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LSU RBs have 2/21 catches for 9.5% of total catches
UGA RBs have 10/37 catches for 27% of total catches

So much for the checkdown theory on our end.


Shouldn’t that help us with Emery...?
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:19 am to
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Certainly a 50% completion rate does not look good against SELA, but that can also be an aberration. Time will tell us.

He was 10/20. Here are his incompletions. It's such a small sample size, but I certainly think his percentage should be higher.
1) corner route thrown out of bounds. Bad throw
2) late throw causing PBU
3) hit as he threw (bad technique by RT, but JB held ball too long and stepped up into the rush, pressure was avoidable)
4) Throw away on a well-defended screen pass
5) High throw with 3 defenders around the receiver. Could have been caught, but would have been a GREAT catch. Definitely not a drop
6) Deep out underthrown and late. Close to being intercepted. Defender caught it but was OOB.
7) Drop on a short throw to tight end during 2 minute drill. Bad decision to throw a three yard pass to the middle of the field in 2 minute
8) Throw away in 2 minute drill. He left the pocket early, but was probably smart to make sure he didn't get sacked when his initial read wasn't there
9) Right tackle whiffed and he got hit as he threw
10) Drop

Only 2 of the incompletions were caused by pressure and I think one of those wasn't entirely on the offensive line.

But, there are five passes that were either definitely caused by pressure, were dropped or were throwaways. If 3 of those are completions, he's 65% for the game. 2 and he's at 60%.

It's just too small a sample size to even be caring about this at this point in the season. The number will work themselves out one way or another.

I think he played very well against Miami and very average against SLU. We'll know more about him on Saturday, that's for sure.

As for his arm strength, I haven't seen any throw that concerns me. His arm strength looks comparable to Brees, which is to say "strong enough". By no means does he have a rifle, but for the most part, he's putting them where they need to be and they get there fast enough.
Posted by RedFive
Ringgold Ga
Member since Apr 2015
2168 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:20 am to
Has Emery switched to QB or something? Just curious.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68316 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:26 am to
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You can also ask them to throw it to people who are more open.



On target indicates a catchable pass for the receiver
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68316 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:27 am to
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Shouldn’t that help us with Emery...?



I would think us having a senior RB who is the clear best guy is by far the biggest help from that kind of standpoint over a few catches 2 games into the season. Basically, go to UGA to sit or come to LSU and be a primary guy right away.
Posted by Gainesville_Dawg
Gainesville, GA
Member since Jan 2015
299 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:32 am to
You haven’t watched a lot of Georgia football. No running backs are sitting. They all get carries.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11181 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:38 am to
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Has Emery switched to QB or something? Just curious.


No kidding. Sorry, I got sucked into the discussion. LOL
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68316 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 11:38 am to
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You haven’t watched a lot of Georgia football. No running backs are sitting. They all get carries.



You return literally every RB you have from this year plus will get a 5-star back from injury. He would not exactly get many touches next year. He'd definitely be mostly riding the pine year 1.
Posted by tissle
Member since Jul 2009
1954 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 12:09 pm to
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You return literally every RB you have from this year plus will get a 5-star back from injury. He would not exactly get many touches next year. He'd definitely be mostly riding the pine year 1.



I believe our True Fresh RB, James Cook, is #1 or #2 on the team on carries.
Posted by dawg4lyfe
Member since May 2012
11662 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:04 pm to
He could come in and be the #2 back behind Swift. He's that good. He is a damn good back and earn plenty of PT
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32860 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:14 pm to
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target indicates a catchable pass for the receiver


Must not be throwing a catchable ball
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68316 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:33 pm to
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I believe our True Fresh RB, James Cook, is #1 or #2 on the team on carries.



And he's back, along with like 5 other guys. You're not helping yourself here. Emery isn't going to go to UGA and get 100+ carries year 1. He definitely would here.
Posted by GeorgiaBoy
Member since Sep 2013
1982 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 1:40 pm to
Emery isn't going to go to LSU.


FIFY
Posted by dawg4lyfe
Member since May 2012
11662 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:25 pm to
There's a reason RB's go to Bama and UGA. They won't have to carry the entire load and they save their bodies for the NFL. He can come here, get 10-15 carries a game, and have plenty of tread on the tires for the NFL.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68316 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 2:33 pm to
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There's a reason RB's go to Bama and UGA.


And not LSU?

It's not like we've been exactly struggling at RB the last, well, very long time. He's just walking into a perfect situation here from a playing standpoint where as at UGA he walks into a loaded situation where he will have to fight very hard for any meaningful playing time early on.
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 2:34 pm
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