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re: John Emery 5* commits to UGA

Posted on 9/11/18 at 7:30 am to
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 7:30 am to
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Fromm does a great job presnap. He doesn't have a lot of throwaways because he has autonomy to change the play at the line.



So does Burrow, unfortunately there's only so much you can do with a complete patchwork OL, especially last weekend.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 7:31 am to
No one is buying the "Burrow is playing better than Fromm" nonsense
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 7:35 am to
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No one is buying the "Burrow is playing better than Fromm" nonsense



Then you cant read, I said and provided the exact stats, that he's putting more passes on target thus far than Fromm. That doesn't mean I said "Burrow is playing better than Fromm". It means exactly what I said, which is backed up with a fact.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 7:35 am to
Then LSU's receivers and OL suck dick, and why would Emery want to be a part of that?
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 7:42 am to
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Then LSU's receivers and OL suck dick, and why would Emery want to be a part of that?



It was patchwork OL last weekend, wont be the same moving forward rest of season, guys suspended/injuried.

The receivers will end up being great, a ton of talent there, just not a lot of experience. Getting into rhythms and such.

And Emery would want to come here because he wont have to sit on the bench his entire first season, he may even be good enough to start because our best back is a senior and has been tearing it up thus far.
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 7:43 am
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 7:46 am to
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It was patchwork OL last weekend, wont be the same moving forward rest of season, guys suspended/injuried.

The receivers will end up being great, a ton of talent there, just not a lot of experience. Getting into rhythms and such.

Having so many throwaways and drops, at no fault of the QB, that a 90+% "accurate" QB is completing less than 50% of his passes is very difficult to believe, quite frankly.

ETA: It seems likely that a good chunk of them are technically catch-able but very high degree of difficulty.
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 7:51 am
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 7:51 am to
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Having so many throwaways and drops, at no fault of the QB, that a 90+% "accurate" QB is completing less than 50% of his passes is very difficult to believe, quite frankly.



Facts are what they are, Burrow has played it safe and threw away a good bit of passes under duress (which has been often, playing an all out blitzing Miami team, then the patchwork OL the next weekend), also had a higher than average likely number of drops on a limited amount of passes thus far. It's all very small sample sizes right now, but the good news is Burrow certainly hasn't really been the issue at all. If he's putting over 90% of his passes to receivers on target, you cant ask for much more there. His completion percentage will absolutely go up over the course of the season.
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:33 am to
He fricking sucks, is what it is.
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 8:55 am to
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Then LSU's receivers and OL suck dick, and why would Emery want to be a part of that?



Maybe because this is this year and next year is next year
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:02 am to
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He fricking sucks, is what it is.



It's nice you're ignorant, hope you continue to remain that way
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 9:03 am
Posted by TT9
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:05 am to
He's failed to complete over 50% of his passes in his first two games, one against a high school team.

He sucks arse
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:29 am to
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He's failed to complete over 50% of his passes in his first two games, one against a high school team.



Still failed to click the link posted earlier I see, continue on, ignorance is bliss
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 9:30 am
Posted by DawgsLife
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:50 am to
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Thank you. See. That wasn't so hard.


No it wasn't. I found it very easy to bring LSU fans back down to earth.

Now. That was the last 40 years. How about you telling me who has done better the last 2-3 years. You know...more recent years that tend to matter more?
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:53 am to
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Still failed to click the link posted earlier I see, continue on, ignorance is bliss

Fromm's YPA is top 10 nationally at 10.3. Joey Checkdown's YPA is below average at 6.6. I wonder why Burrow is so accurate?

Stats are fun.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 9:55 am to
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Fromm's YPA is top 10 nationally at 10.3. Joey Checkdown's YPA is below average at 6.6. I wonder why Burrow is so accurate?



Another guy who hasn't been watching the games, RBs account for a whopping 2 catches this season so far.

LSU average yards per catch - 13.9
UGA average yards per catch - 11.5

LSU RBs have 2/21 catches for 9.5% of total catches
UGA RBs have 10/37 catches for 27% of total catches

So much for the checkdown theory on our end.
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 10:03 am
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:01 am to
Watched the Miami game, unfortunately I had to miss last week's game against the Little Sisters of the Poor. Must have been a good game since LSU could barely move the ball.

What were the positive takeaways from Burrow's game?
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:06 am to
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Then you cant read, I said and provided the exact stats, that he's putting more passes on target thus far than Fromm.

Just stop man.

A) This has nothing to do with John Emery
B) That accuracy stat is garbage as it relates to actually playing football
C) Not all of his issues have been because of the O Line, he really didn't play that well against SLU and this seems like a strange hill to die on. Let's see how he improves as the season progresses and maybe I'll join you in your crusade.



Now...what's going to help us flip Emery is that our offensive line is doing a good job of run blocking, Nick Brosette is averaging 137 yards per game and 6.5 yards per touch. He's a senior. We have nobody else that is doing anything at all.

This looks like a great spot for a freshman to come in and get some meaningful touches immediately. It also doesn't hurt that the second running back in the game against Miami was Chris Curry, so the coaches can show that they are willing to give freshmen reps over upper classmen, if they've earned them.
Posted by ATLdawg25
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:07 am to
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So much for the checkdown theory on our end

That's even worse for your offensive outlook. He is legitimately throwing passes on target to WRs and still only averaging 6 yards per attempt?
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:07 am to
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What were the positive takeaways from Burrow's game?



About the same from Miami game, accurate passer and makes good decisions with the football. Took 1 maybe 2 sacks holding onto the ball too long but overall played well. Unfortunately against SELA we put together a patchwork OL who simply couldn't block 1 guy from SELA effectively and they were blitzing most of the night so Burrow mostly had very little time to throw. We ended up just running the game out in the 2nd half up 24-0 heading into it. Threw 3 passes the entire 2nd half.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
68316 posts
Posted on 9/11/18 at 10:08 am to
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That's even worse for your offensive outlook. He is legitimately throwing passes on target to WRs and still only averaging 6 yards per attempt?



It's an extremely small sample size a lot of things can affect completion %, but he hasn't been the issue in that when he's on target >90% of his passes to guys. You have a handful of drops in only 21 completions numbers will look bad.
This post was edited on 9/11/18 at 10:09 am
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