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re: How can aTm sign 33 players?

Posted on 12/7/12 at 12:48 pm to
Posted by Bob Ag
Austin
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Posted on 12/7/12 at 12:48 pm to
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Conclusion: you are still behind and you have several years of work ahead of you just to equal the level of recruiting the LSU, Texas, and OU get from Texas.





You're absolutely clueless as to what's already occurring.
As of right now, A&M is doing the best of anyone in this state, and that will improve even more when RSJ commits next week. LSU barely takes anyone from Texas anyways, so how are you going to out recruit us in this again?
OU? Are you even paying attention? Mike Sherman was recruiting at a level comparable to them. Kevin Sumlin is close to shutting them out of the state. He won numerous head to heads with them this year.

As for the sips, its not the cherry picking it used to be for them. Plus, how can you say their recruiting has been all that great when they've had as many busts as they've had, not to mention how poorly they have performed on the field.
Their recruiting is exaggerated just simply because of brand. If Im wrong on that, then explain why a team full of 4* and 5* is regularly getting its shite pushed in by teams with much less talent. Coaching is certainly a factor, but they won big with similar coaching before. Could it be recruiting services have to started to overhype them?
Tyrone Swoopes and Jake Raulerson come to mind.
Posted by DWag215
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2011
7224 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 12:59 pm to
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Conclusion: you are still behind and you have several years of work ahead of you just to equal the level of recruiting the LSU, Texas, and OU get from Texas.

LSU doesn't have one player from Texas in the '13 class.

The kid they did have was taken by TAMU.

We have absolutely dominated OU in 2013 and stood about even in head to head battles in 2012.

3/5 of our 2014 commits have Texas offers.

Your little diatribe is nothing more than wish casting.

We are running Texas right now. DWI.
This post was edited on 12/7/12 at 1:00 pm
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61408 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 3:12 pm to
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LSU barely takes anyone from Texas anyways, so how are you going to out recruit us in this again?



Its funny how LSU has had several 1st round draft pics from the state of Texas over the 5 years.

Brockers was right out from the Aggies' back yard. Loston was right out from under the Aggies' backyard and oh yeah he was committed to A&M at one point.

How about Joseph Addai? He was right out from the Aggies' backyard.

Danny McCray for the Dallas Cowboys was right out from the Aggies backyard.

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SU barely takes anyone from Texas anyways, so how are you going to out recruit us in this again?



Beat your arse on the field like usual. We've been out recruiting you for years, why would that change? If we still kick your arse I don't see whats changed in the LSU-A&M relationship. LSU is still better than A&M.

A&M is LSU's bitch right now and Louisiana is loaded next year and our staff can actually recruit out of state somewhat.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61408 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 3:18 pm to
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As for the sips, its not the cherry picking it used to be for them. Plus, how can you say their recruiting has been all that great when they've had as many busts as they've had, not to mention how poorly they have performed on the field.
Their recruiting is exaggerated just simply because of brand. If Im wrong on that, then explain why a team full of 4* and 5* is regularly getting its shite pushed in by teams with much less talent. Coaching is certainly a factor, but they won big with similar coaching before. Could it be recruiting services have to started to overhype them?
Tyrone Swoopes and Jake Raulerson come to mind.



I think you're absolutely right on there being possibly a recruiting bias, but I don't think thats for UT recruits, I generally think recruits from the state of Texas in general tend to be overrated because they are far more developed than most players out of HS. Think about guys like KeKe Mingo or Mo Claiborne who really weren't terribly heralded out of HS mainly because they were just great natural athletes that just needed some good coaching and strength and conditioning routines.

In Texas lets admit, the HS coaches are pretty damn good, and HS programs operate more like a collegiate program. Now, not ALL HS's in Texas do, but many programs like the Skyline's, Aledo's, Lake Travis', Euless Trinity's, and Katy's all do.


Hell, Lake Travis' Head Coach just 3 years ago removed from that position is currently the highest paid assistant in CFB as the Clemson Offensive Coord making 1.3 million dollars.
Posted by Bob Ag
Austin
Member since Aug 2011
3008 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 3:20 pm to
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Conclusion: you are still behind and you have several years of work ahead of you just to equal the level of recruiting the LSU, Texas, and OU get from Texas.


Since you are incapable of reading your own text, I will help you out by including the bold.

How again are you going to out recruit us in Texas when you don't even have a single kid committed from Texas? Not to mention we took the one kid you did have away from you (who is going to be a badass BTW).
Sure, you may get a couple recruits here and there, and they will probably be decent players, but Im not understanding how that equals you outrecruiting us in our home state.

Plus, you can throw out your meaningless garbage of recruiting battles when Fran and Shermain were head coach. You know as well as we do that Sumlin is a different animal altogether.
Posted by Bob Ag
Austin
Member since Aug 2011
3008 posts
Posted on 12/7/12 at 3:25 pm to
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I think you're absolutely right on there being possibly a recruiting bias, but I don't think thats for UT recruits, I generally think recruits from the state of Texas in general tend to be overrated because they are far more developed than most players out of HS. Think about guys like KeKe Mingo or Mo Claiborne who really weren't terribly heralded out of HS mainly because they were just great natural athletes that just needed some good coaching and strength and conditioning routines.


I can see your point there, but its probably minimal. I think you are more correct about La recruits being underrated. I watch film of a guy like Ed Williams that we have recruited from La, and I would put down money that he will be a complete badass for us, yet he is not highly regarded as a recruit.
He is very raw, but you can just see he is oozing with athleticism and attitude.
Posted by Peekingduck
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2012
36 posts
Posted on 12/9/12 at 11:44 pm to
You are asking a Tiger to think.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
80500 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 4:52 am to
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Loston was right out from under the Aggies' backyard and oh yeah he was committed to A&M at one point.


Every heard of something called the TAKS? (Texas Assessment of Knowledge and Skills)

If you can't pass it, you can't go to a university in the state of Texas under any circumstances.

Loston failed it. Therefore he had to go out of state.

Other notable players to fail the TAKS that were recruited by A&M but signed elsewhere:

Dez Bryant
Michael Bishop
Posted by CP3LSU25
Louisiana
Member since Feb 2009
51150 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 10:23 am to
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You are asking a Tiger to think.



Another homo chiming in. We kicked your arse again. Where is all this confidence coming from. When was the last time you beat us.

There's a reason we tell aggie jokes all year long.
This post was edited on 12/10/12 at 10:24 am
Posted by Houston Summit
Houston, TX
Member since Apr 2012
1995 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 11:20 am to
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RSJ will commit to LSU on Monday






FIFY

Posted by leoj
Member since Nov 2010
3106 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 11:48 am to
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There's a reason we tell aggie jokes all year long


does one of them involve you telling how someone made fun of lsu's overall intelligence and you brought up a football score as if those were somehow related? you sure showed us!
Posted by AginAL
Member since Dec 2010
1378 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 2:09 pm to
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How can aTm sign 33 players?


Sumlin...........
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61408 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 2:13 pm to
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Every heard of something called the TAKS? (Texas Assessment of Knowledge and Skills)

If you can't pass it, you can't go to a university in the state of Texas under any circumstances.

Loston failed it. Therefore he had to go out of state.

Other notable players to fail the TAKS that were recruited by A&M but signed elsewhere:

Dez Bryant
Michael Bishop



Too bad this couldn't possibly be true because they would have never been allowed to graduate HS if they didn't pass TAKS.


Too bad Dez Bryant wanted an LSU scholarship so bad, and A&M would have only been his 2nd choice at best, hell he could have still gone to A&M if he went to Ok St.

The SEC requirements are higher for athletes than the Big 12.

See Jarvis Jones and Phil Loadholt, 2 LSU signees that ended up at OU.
This post was edited on 12/10/12 at 2:15 pm
Posted by GalvoAg
Galveston TX
Member since Apr 2012
10854 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 2:51 pm to
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We kicked your arse again

And what did that get you? A chicken bowl?
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 12/10/12 at 5:41 pm to
Loston transfered to a LA HS for his last semester so that he could get in as he was not going to be able to get in to A&M. Bishop transferred from Blinn in Brenham to a KS JUCO to get in to KState.

The rankings on sip recruits are a joke. Every kid they have offered has basically been a 4 or 5 star almost immediately no matter who else is recruiting them. Great example is Tyrone Swoopes. He is listed as the #3 player in Texas and the #2 Dual Threat QB in the US and yet his 2A school started off 0-9 with him completing far below 50% of his passes with mediocre rushing stats. ANY elite player should kill it playing 2A schools, those average around 150-200 students so basically any kid that wants to play football can. He also sucked at the camps he went to. He has great size but similar to RSJ but he runs about a 4.8 as opposed to RSJ at 4.5.

This year OU and A&M went head to head on DL recruits. OU and A&M desperately needed depth, OU even worse than A&M. They competed head to head on 4 and A&M got ALL 4, including Manning who is an OU Legacy with his brother having played there. OU has no DT's now, at all, in this class and there are no quality DT's in Texas left.

There are only a handful of guys that Texas has committed that have A&M offers for '13 and even fewer that A&M would have gone after in the last month or two as they filled up. So far '14 looks like it could be disastrous for Texas as A&M has already gotten the Top 2 LB's that Texas desperately wanted including the #1 player in the state Scott (who officially commits Wed).

The sleeping giant is wide awake and destroying everything in its path. Live in the past if you wish but A&M is not going anywhere.
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