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re: As a recruit.. Texas or Texas A&M

Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:30 am to
Posted by MMB5DAP
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:30 am to
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Yeah. Except you're 3-6 in the last nine "bowl" games you've played. 4-10 if you go back further.


Or you could say 2-0 under Sumlin...you know the current Head Coach.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:31 am to
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it isn't surprising at all that he lost high profile recruits
he hasn't just lost recruits, he's been made sumlins bitch in just 4 months. This never happened with Sherman, franchione, or sumlin
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1760 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:31 am to
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So you are surprised a coach lost recruits after Brown left the job. Strong didn't have any relationship with those players, it isn't surprising at all that he lost high profile recruits.


Yes, I am very surprised that Alaka and Henderson were flipped. We didnt even offer Henderson until a week before he was supposed to report to Austin. Just because theres a coaching change, doesnt mean all your best recruits jump ship.
Posted by thegivingsteve
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
56 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:31 am to
You mean the guy who hasn't won anything of significance and just lost the only reason they won any games the last two years? That guy?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:32 am to
And 2-0 under sumlin. Sorry we win our bowls and you lose to fricking Baylor
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:32 am to
Thanks I guess.

Just expressing my opinion about the texas football program. It isn't like I have any special love for them.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:32 am to
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I was just showing that you had a good class before Manziel ever played.


And we've had better classes since.

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So the fact that Tbird posted is supported.



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Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1760 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:32 am to
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Ok. What's your point? Tbird said recruiting picked up significantly after Manziel's first season, which he used as evidence for sustained success in the future. I was just showing that you had a good class before Manziel ever played. So the myth that Tbird posted is debunked.


The difference between 16th and 5th is about 10 4/5 stars. HTH
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:33 am to
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Just expressing my opinion about the texas football program. It isn't like I have any special love for them.


You don't have to have special love to knight for them

Go 'head on, namesake. You're doing admirably.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:34 am to
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I was just showing that you had a good class before Manziel ever played. So the myth that Tbird posted is debunked.


We don't really consider a 16th ranked class good anymore, at least I don't.

We sat in the 15-30 range with Sherman while we were around .500 with a boring head coach. We have had more success on the field and gotten a ton of exposure so we now expect to be in the top 10-15 recruiting wise every year. If we win 7 games the next three years it will obviously drop off.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1760 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:34 am to
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You mean the guy who hasn't won anything of significance and just lost the only reason they won any games the last two years? That guy?


Yep that guy, the one who took a team that most didnt think would make a bowl game for 3 years and turned them into a top 5 team overnight.
Posted by CheeseburgerEddie
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:34 am to
It certainly can, when the coach that left was a national championship winning coach and the guy that comes in is a hard nosed defensive guy whose style may not entice the previous commits.

I would wait until Strong has a full season (both regular and recruiting) before assuming you will dominate texas recruiting for his entire tenure.
Posted by thegivingsteve
Houston
Member since Apr 2014
56 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:35 am to
Yeah. Now that you have had two solid recruiting classes, success on the field is a formality.
Texas the last 3 seasons says hi.
So does Florida
And USC
and Notre Dame
And Tennessee
etc.
Posted by MMB5DAP
Member since Jul 2013
1760 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:36 am to
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I would wait until Strong has a full season (both regular and recruiting) before assuming you will dominate texas recruiting for his entire tenure.


I agree. I'm not making the argument Strong will suck....YOU are making the argument the hiring of Strong has already turned the table, which I think is premature. Let's see what he does next season. If texas goes 8-5 or something, the outlook isnt going to be good.
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:36 am to
Your 2012 class was ranked 16th. The 2013 class was ranked 9th. Not a huge leap, especially not big enough to use as evidence for sustained success in the future.

The 2012 Arkansas class was ranked 28th. A year later after the JLS debacle, our class was ranked 23rd. I guess the success of John L. Smith was the catalyst for our improved recruiting.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
62202 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:36 am to
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Yeah. Now that you have had two solid recruiting classes, success on the field is a formality. Texas the last 3 seasons says hi.


Where did I say it was a formality?
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148094 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:36 am to
One of those 5 programs doesn't belong. Which one do you think it is?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134050 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:37 am to
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Yep that guy, the one who took a team that most didnt think would make a bowl game for 3 years and turned them into a top 5 team overnight.


Amazing how quickly the sip goalposts moved from "aggy will always be an SEC bottom-feeder" to "NOW aggy will drop off," ain't it?
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
6816 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:37 am to
Go with the Baylor Bears.
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
148094 posts
Posted on 4/9/14 at 11:37 am to
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Not a huge leap
almost halfing the ranking isn't "a huge leap"?
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